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Rusty pumpkin

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On the basis that red bull is disgusting for me, yeah that's wrong.
Otherwise, when I was a kid I used to burn toothpicks for fun. Can't really say anything against energy drink drinking.
 

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Matt Oliver said:
Ocealot said:
yes its wrong. But i dont understand. why would you give a child caffine I mean the longer they're asleep the better.
Caffine makes you more awake not sleepy, sorry to burst your bubble.
Unless they have ADHD, just saying.
 

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James Crook said:
foxlovingfreak said:
I think it actually says on the cans of most engery drinks Dont give to small children. I don't rembere which but I know i've seen it before.
You know, I would've said that it's common sense/incredibly obvious to not give an energy drink to a child. But now that you mention it, it's true they actually put a warning on the cans... are people THAT retarded?
And are people retarded to the point they'd NOT follow the incredibly obvious directions on the can?
That woman who sued McDonald's for her coffee being too hot comes to mind.
 

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Rawne1980 said:
Curious as to how many people commenting here or the OP himself have kids of your own.

I've seen a lot of threads with people saying what you should or shouldn't give to a kid and only a very small percentage have children of their own.

For instance I have kids and if I want to give one of them an energy drink then I will do, what business is it of yours?
I don't claim it to be my decision, as they are your children, but I would at least try to give you facts about consequences, good and bad, so you can make more educated decisions. Whether or not that changes your decision is out of my hands, I just think that the world would be better if more people knew about the consequences of their decisions.

By the way, I am 18, male, and have no kids. I don't know if that changes your opinion of me or my statements.
 

Zeema

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fenrizz said:
I agree.

Small children shouldn't drink Red Bull.
Or other energy drinks for that matter.
this

i dont think kids need ANY energy drinks cuz they dont really need 2
 

lion el jhonson

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okay anyone under the age of 11 or 12 should not drink red bull
too much caffeine can really screw someone up I remember drinking a 5 hour engery shot one time and I couldn't stop shaking for two weeks

my point

stuff like Gatorade:eek:k

redbull: no
 

Agayek

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Matt Oliver said:
Ocealot said:
yes its wrong. But i dont understand. why would you give a child caffine I mean the longer they're asleep the better.
Caffine makes you more awake not sleepy, sorry to burst your bubble.
That was his point.

He's saying kids should sleep as much as humanly possible, thus it makes no sense to give them something like Red Bull.
 

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chase miller said:
i also agree

giving caffeine to a minor is just wrong
please tell me this is supposed to be a joke, or by minor you mean kids without the maturity to handle caffeine? (speakign of which, did you know Caffeine and nicatine are more or less the same substance, nicatine just releases more dopamine than caffeine does.)


OT: Well, a whole can, yeah, that's bad!

Personally I don't see anything wrong with offering a child a sip of an energy drink (like how I don't see anything wrong with a parent offering a 16 y/o a sip of beer/wine/spirits) but a whole can is a bit ludicrous. I mean, I used to drink energy drinks all the time, and would offer sips to my little bro/sis, but I would never give them the whole can... I used to drink them so much that they make me sleepy now because I built up an immunity to everything in them except the Taurine and Niacine.
 

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There is way too much fucking sugar in energy drinks. One of my friends downed an entire can of monster and was bouncing off the walls. If that's what can happen to a teenager, then I wouldn't even think of giving a red bull to a small child.
 

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chase miller said:
Matt Oliver said:
chase miller said:
i also agree

giving caffeine to a minor is just wrong
any1 under 18 is a minor and believe me I know a ton of minors who drink/used to drink soda with caffine so you might want to rephase that saying kids under the age of 10? shouldn't have caffine.
ok i'll rephrase that. giving caffeine to kids under 8 (i started drinking coffee at 9)
is wrong.

and you spelled caffeine wrong ^^
You spelt "spelled" wrong ^^
 

Shoqiyqa

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I was about to post an agreement, then thought I should check my facts first and googled "caffeine infants".

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=caffeine+infants

There's one link there about limiting intake for pregnant and breastfeeding women and the rest of page 1 is about its use in treating breathing difficulty in premature babies, which is news to me!

"Caffeine toddlers" may be the more informative search.

http://www.justmommies.com/articles/kids-and-caffeine.shtml

However, it can also cause irritability, anxiety, increased heart rate and blood pressure, headaches and insomnia. Caffeine remains in the system for several hours (up to six) and negative effects can be felt throughout this time. In children, it doesn?t take much caffeine to bring on these feelings ? and kids are consuming more caffeine now than ever before. According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, soda consumption in kids aged 6-11 doubled from 1978 to 1994. Soda and other energy-boosting soft drinks and candy are often high in calories as well as caffeine, greatly increasing a child?s risk of obesity. Many caffeinated beverages are also heavily sweetened, and this high sugar content can result in tooth decay and cavities.

Caffeine can act as an appetite depressant, so kids who are filling up on soda aren?t getting the nutritional benefits of healthy food or drinks like milk and fruit juice. In fact, the phosphoric acid that carbonates soft drinks inhibits calcium absorption, which can impact bone and teeth development. Since caffeine is a diuretic, drinking high-caffeine beverages increases urination. This could cause dehydration in children, particularly in hot weather, when they?re likely to be outside, active and perspiring.

Canadian guidelines suggest no more than 45 milligrams of caffeine a day for preschoolers.

Coca-Cola (12 ounces) 34 mg (milligrams)
Pepsi (12 ounces) 38 mg
Jolt soft drink (12 ounces) 71 mg
Red Bull (12 ounces) 80 mg
Mountain Dew (12 ounces) 55 mg
Iced tea (12 ounces)

70 mg
Black tea (6 ounces) 70 mg
Green tea (6 ounces) 35 mg
Brewed coffee (5 ounces) 115 mg
Instant coffee (7 ounces) 85 mg
Espresso coffee (2 ounces) 100 mg
Dark chocolate (1 ounce) 20 mg
Milk Chocolate (1 ounce)

10 mg
Cold medication (1 tablet) 30 mg
http://www.toddlerstoday.com/articles/general-health/caffeine-and-toddlers-6180/

"As a general rule, it is best to try to keep your children caffeine-free," says Dr. Maria Kelly, a pediatric professor at the University of Florida. "Keeping your children caffeine-free is an achievable goal. The easiest way to accomplish it is to eliminate all sodas. Try to offer healthier choices like water, milk, flavored waters and 100 percent fruit juice."

According to the National Institutes of Health (NIH), it has many effects on the body's metabolism, including stimulating the central nervous system. Caffeine can interact with other drugs, so it's especially important for parents to be aware of it if their child is taking any medication. Caffeine negatively impacts the body and there is no nutritive value or need for it in the diet. Additionally, it can act as an appetite suppressant, leading to children not wanting to eat their food, and it has diuretic properties that can contribute to dehydration.

"Caffeine in the diet of your children can cause an upset stomach, headaches, jitteriness, difficulty concentrating and sleeping, and even cause elevated heart rate and blood pressure," Dr. Kelly says. "Consumption of caffeinated beverages has also been shown to increase the risk of future obesity and dental caries/decay. It can even potentially aggravate undiagnosed heart and neurological problems."

The United States does not currently have caffeine consumption guidelines for children. Canada does, and they suggest that preschoolers not get more than 45 milligrams per day, which is about the average for a standard soda or 1.5 ounces of chocolate.
http://kidshealth.org/parent/growth/feeding/child_caffeine.html

The United States hasn't developed guidelines for caffeine intake and kids, but Canadian guidelines recommend that preschoolers get no more than 45 milligrams of caffeine a day. That's equivalent to the average amount of caffeine found in a 12-ounce (355-milliliter) can of soda or four 1.5-ounce (43-gram) milk chocolate bars.

In both kids and adults, too much caffeine can cause:

jitteriness and nervousness
upset stomach
headaches
difficulty concentrating
difficulty sleeping
increased heart rate
increased blood pressure

Especially in young kids, it doesn't take a lot of caffeine to produce these effects.

Other reasons to limit kids' caffeine consumption include:
...

Okay. I've checked my facts now and yes, I agree!
 

Sizzle Montyjing

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I feel that this calls for captain obvious to tell us what we all know.

'Giving Red Bull to a child is a bad idea'

Thank you captain obvious!
-_-
You don't need to be a genius to work that out.
 

Da Orky Man

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lockecole21 said:
Da Orky Man said:
Esotera said:
I remember a doctor saying that children under 12 should never be given caffeine, and this source seems to back it up: http://www.diethealthclub.com/caffeine/caffeine-and-children.html

Dehydration and an increased heart rate can't be good. It's definitely wrong, and if it's occurring regularly then it probably borders on neglect.
Although I completely agree with you, given that it affects the heart-rate of children much more because they simply have less blood, everyone make one mistake.
Energy drinks DON'T DEHYDRATE YOU!
Technically, the ingredients do, but at most of the drink is actually water. It hydrates you.

Part of my war against scientific ignorance.
sorry to burst your bubble but caffeine is a diuretic and in significant amounts does indeed dehydrate and can cause stomach issues.
First, I wasn't competing the fact that it does nasty stuff to your stomach, because yes, it does.
Second, water is also a diuretic. Caffeine is not at the strength needed to make you lose 250ml from 80mg of caffeine. Refer to my sources:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/health/nutrition/04real.html?_r=1

http://journals.lww.com/acsm-essr/pages/articleviewer.aspxyear=2007&issue=07000&article=00008&type=abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12187618

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19774754

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/559762_2

I'm very thorough when arguing.

What kind of significant amounts are you talking about? Most energy drinks have 120mg per litre.
 

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SgtFoley said:
chase miller said:
i also agree

giving caffeine to a minor is just wrong
People under 18 should not be given pop?
Red Bull isn't pop as much as it is highly concentrated caffeine and other 'energy enhancers'. The can size is geared towards adults who want/need hours of energy, so a child with half as much mass will be even more affected and possibly develop health issues if they regularly get to drink a whole can of the stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bull
"The caffeine content of a single can of Red Bull contains 80 mg/250 ml of caffeine. This is about the same as one cup of normal coffee, or slightly less depending on the brewing method."

So imagine giving a cup of coffee to a child and having to deal with the ball of energy afterwards.
 

Rawne1980

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PS3fanboy said:
I don't claim it to be my decision, as they are your children, but I would at least try to give you facts about consequences, good and bad, so you can make more educated decisions. Whether or not that changes your decision is out of my hands, I just think that the world would be better if more people knew about the consequences of their decisions.

By the way, I am 18, male, and have no kids. I don't know if that changes your opinion of me or my statements.
People that give advice are one thing, I know a lot of parents appreciate any advice people will give especially first time parents.

Having children doesn't instantly give you all the knowledge in the world to do the right thing all the time.

My one and only problem are those in the 13 - 16 year old region that spew self righteous crap at other peoples parenting while still being, in essence, children themselves.

I'm not saying they are immature i'm not getting into the whole "age doesn't equal maturity" debate but I am saying they probably haven't seen enough of life to be commenting on someone else's parenting skills.

We've all made a mistake or *insert number of how many mistakes you've made here* in raising our kids. I let my eldest listen to music and now she thinks Katy B is fantastic .... never let your kids listen to music unsupervised, it can damage your own hearing.

gamezombieghgh said:
The fact that it's detrimental to the kids health I'd say
And I agree with you 100%.

People saying it's bad for the kids health, she shouldn't have done it are right and thats a fair observation.

However.

If you read through some of the posts there are folks taking it a tad too far and acting as if she is the second coming of Satan. Talk about getting carried away.
 

FamoFunk

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Of course it's wrong, I wouldn't even give my 2 year-old a sip, never mind a full can.

Alas, not much you or anyone can do about it, though.
 

Da Orky Man

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lockecole21 said:
Da Orky Man said:
lockecole21 said:
Da Orky Man said:
Esotera said:
I remember a doctor saying that children under 12 should never be given caffeine, and this source seems to back it up: http://www.diethealthclub.com/caffeine/caffeine-and-children.html

Dehydration and an increased heart rate can't be good. It's definitely wrong, and if it's occurring regularly then it probably borders on neglect.
Although I completely agree with you, given that it affects the heart-rate of children much more because they simply have less blood, everyone make one mistake.
Energy drinks DON'T DEHYDRATE YOU!
Technically, the ingredients do, but at most of the drink is actually water. It hydrates you.

Part of my war against scientific ignorance.
sorry to burst your bubble but caffeine is a diuretic and in significant amounts does indeed dehydrate and can cause stomach issues.
First, I wasn't competing the fact that it does nasty stuff to your stomach, because yes, it does.
Second, water is also a diuretic. Caffeine is not at the strength needed to make you lose 250ml from 80mg of caffeine. Refer to my sources:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/health/nutrition/04real.html?_r=1

http://journals.lww.com/acsm-essr/pages/articleviewer.aspxyear=2007&issue=07000&article=00008&type=abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12187618

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19774754

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/559762_2

I'm very thorough when arguing.

What kind of significant amounts are you talking about? Most energy drinks have 120mg per litre.
wasn't arguing,but good to know,.anyway if a mother gives a child one red bull chances are she going to give them another and another.it doesn't take as much caffeine to dehydrate a child as it does an adult btw.
You speak of arguing like it's a bad thing. I love arguing. It's like a sport to me.
Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing how much caffeine it takes to break-even with dehydration. Wikipedia time. Somehow, I know I'm going to end up on a page about some obscure sci-fi technology page.