Would you support this law?
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I'm adding 'when a character is playing a modern video game on a TV show, it has to use actual modern game sounds, no blips and bloops.'
No, because points and score keeping still exists in most video games, even if it's not as plainly obvious as a number on a high score table.
Large scores may not be as impressive since most games and tallies are persistent, rather than being reset after losing all of your lives, but they're still there for those who care about them, if you know where to look.
For example, in GTA IV and Red Dead Redemption I gauge my overall score by the amount of money I have (since you get awarded it for completing objectives), and since the game also keeps track of your win/lose ratios for races, kills/deaths, shots fired/shots missed etc., I can also gauge how well I've been playing as well as how long.
The term "points" may be a bit archaic and a remnant of Coin-Op Arcade games with leaderboards, but the general concept is still correct and the word "points" is a succinct way for newsreaders to convey that concept, especially to an audience of non-gamers who may not care about or understand Gamerscore, K/D ratio and other gaming terms, but who can easily draw parallel between the concept of "points" in video games and points, league tables and score keeping in other sports and activities.
Can you imagine how confusing the news would be if journalists were banned from using general terms and simple words to describe concepts to an audience who didn't know much about the subject? Reports about gaming may seem more relevant and accurate to gamers with their use of accurate and technical terms, but every other news report would be a confusing, inaccessible mess.
If journalists were banned from talking about a subject for using general or less than 100% accurate terms, then there would nobody left to report the news.
Large scores may not be as impressive since most games and tallies are persistent, rather than being reset after losing all of your lives, but they're still there for those who care about them, if you know where to look.
For example, in GTA IV and Red Dead Redemption I gauge my overall score by the amount of money I have (since you get awarded it for completing objectives), and since the game also keeps track of your win/lose ratios for races, kills/deaths, shots fired/shots missed etc., I can also gauge how well I've been playing as well as how long.
The term "points" may be a bit archaic and a remnant of Coin-Op Arcade games with leaderboards, but the general concept is still correct and the word "points" is a succinct way for newsreaders to convey that concept, especially to an audience of non-gamers who may not care about or understand Gamerscore, K/D ratio and other gaming terms, but who can easily draw parallel between the concept of "points" in video games and points, league tables and score keeping in other sports and activities.
Can you imagine how confusing the news would be if journalists were banned from using general terms and simple words to describe concepts to an audience who didn't know much about the subject? Reports about gaming may seem more relevant and accurate to gamers with their use of accurate and technical terms, but every other news report would be a confusing, inaccessible mess.
If journalists were banned from talking about a subject for using general or less than 100% accurate terms, then there would nobody left to report the news.
The biggest problem is that even with a university education they are focusing on how the journalism world works, and they end up being people whose knowledge of science, literature, etc stays at a lower level so many just end up flapping their gums and throwing in their uninformed opinions because they just don't know any better and really at the end of the day with the news being so diverse I have a hard time blaming them. Granted I still think a significant portion of the media is absolute scum, but it honestly is hard to expect them to be anything else.Keoul said:
But, Ed's a girl, not saying she can't use a computer, or isn't an awesome hacker, just, also a girl =PJohnny Novgorod said:It should be called the Cowboy Bebop At His Computer Decree.
If you offend it, you get shot.
OT : Points still exist in games, never mind "Talking Points" "Points of Interest" "Stat Points" "Point of the story" ect, ect.
OK, I understand what you're referring to, but plenty of games still use points. Like, experience points in RPGs. Or various "Challenge" modes that use a scoring system. Or even your Effective Military Score in ME3. Or statistics in real-time-strategy games. Or any multiplayer game ever....The list goes on.
I'd be supportive of a law preventing ANY crime-procedural TV show from ever mentioning videogames again. Or computers, for that matter.
EDIT: Also, switch out "money" with "points", and the clip makes perfect sense, so she wasn't really that far off anyway. If we're talking about the same clip.
I'd be supportive of a law preventing ANY crime-procedural TV show from ever mentioning videogames again. Or computers, for that matter.
EDIT: Also, switch out "money" with "points", and the clip makes perfect sense, so she wasn't really that far off anyway. If we're talking about the same clip.
The obvious exception being if the whole thing is a 90's/80's throwback, like the Regular Show.MajorTomServo said:
When actors pretend to play video games, thou shalt not spaz out and mash buttons like a psycho. It's fucking unrealistic. Unless maybe you're playing Mortal Kombat. (zing!)
What if the game being discussed actually utilizes a points system? There are such things.Moderated said:
DOUBLE KEYBOARD ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE SKYYYYYY!6th And Silver said:
'Dump 'em on the other side of the router!'
Yes. Dump them on the other side of the box that connects our computers to the internet. That means something.
The point being made was that journalists should actually do some research into the subject if they are going to talk about it. While the idea of a law to enforce it is obviously ridiculous, so is the lack of integrity in most media when discussing computer games. They generally have an idea of what they are like between ten to twenty years out of date.poiumty said:
Binnsyboy said:
Don't forget the "Second Life Chase Scene" from (I believe) CSI: New York, complete with a controller that is obviously a calculator. Or Law and Order's stunningly accurate rendition of a teenager modifying Prince of Persia (ON A CONSOLE) so that it consists of 10 distinct "levels"....All to protect his personal information, which he keeps on his PS2 for some reason.[footnote]I think. I'm going from a hazy memory of watching the episode in a hotel while my family was on vacation quite a few years ago, so don't quote me on any of this.[/footnote] Why wouldn't he? I mean, all computers are pretty much the same thing, right?
It was an original Xbox, I believe.6th And Silver said:
Can you imagine how inconvenient that would be to access? Like... you have government secrets on a 360, and Chinese criminals have you at gunpoint. You're just sat there playing through a 20 hour game while they're getting madder and madder.
God help you if that game is a roguelike.
I haven't seen that in context, but I'm like 90% sure that this scene was made as a joke. The writers probably figured that the old people watching the show wouldn't notice the stupidity of it, and we'd have something to laugh about.Binnsyboy said:
So my elaborate piece on Skill Points distribution in MOBA games is going to get me banned from journalism? What about my article regarding Hit Points in modern RPGs? I'm not allowed to do that one either? Maybe my scathing critique of the bloat of Achievement Points in AAA gaming? That one's out too?
Yeah, that law makes so much sense...
Perhaps if the law specified the VERB "point" instead of the WORD "points", it might make sense in a way that you intended, but as it stands, no, I would not support banning the word "points"...
Yeah, that law makes so much sense...
Perhaps if the law specified the VERB "point" instead of the WORD "points", it might make sense in a way that you intended, but as it stands, no, I would not support banning the word "points"...
