Would you use this machine?

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Fbuh

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"You think that's air you're breathing?"
EDIT: No I would not use it. Escaping from real life is not a valid answer, in my book. The point of life is to see the good things among the bad.
 

EternalFacepalm

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Yes, I would. Matrix in the Matrix? Damn right!
...Oh, and all those rainbows and happiness and stuff, but who cares.
 

TheScottishFella

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jamman said:
Hi,
on a tv show I was watching they were asking about whether you would use this machine if it existed.

Once you enter the machine, you're life is transformed into your perfect life. You live this life until you die. Also once you've entered the machine, you will never know that your "fantasy" life is fake.

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Can't believe I forgot this but, also once you enter the machine, you can never leave it until you die.
I would. If I would have no guilt then it wouldn't be a problem.

2nd: by and chance is this the Ricky Gervais Show?

and 3rdly. I hate to be that guy, heck I get pissed by people who do this to me, but this question was asked not long ago.
 

Rblade

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problems are what shape a person. And we are ussually to short sighted to see the benefit in those situations. I don't think I could ever predict what the perfect life would be for me.

I fear someone leading a perfect life would become a bit insufferable and ungratefull, watch
'the list' episode of southpark for a nice example of how that could work.
as the person above mentioned the matrix, listen to Smith, he says humans reject the perfect world, it's unnaturel/univentfull. Ofcourse it's a movie but it kind of makes the point I'm getting to.

I suppose if the machine would give me a normal life and just prevent kittens from drowing, incest and torture. Leaving the rest of lives problems for what they are, so I guess the problem with the machine would be that the defenition of 'perfect' is kind of shaky in this regard
 

Alluos

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No, because sure as well there'll be some terrorist group hell bent on sabotaging the machines, and I'd rather at least be able to defend myself.

Also, Captcha: "Well done", Why thank you :D
 

Cavehybrid

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Ricky gervais show right?

and nah, because your kids would only be dream kids and not carry on when u die, which sucks, I want kids and grankids and great grandkids to all remember me and have my stuff for generations to come. I don't want all my existance and all i leave behind to just vanish when i die :( I wanna live on through my kids.
 

NightHawk21

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There was a similar machine in the third novel of the Pendragon series. As for the question: why the hell wouldn't you? Everyone would. If its your perfect life (and of course assuming the machine is capable and has enough information to replicate and learn to cover any scenario) than you could live and do whatever you wanted (ie. it wouldn't be boring because you can do, make and be whatever the fuck you want). You would literally become a God, or at least in your mind. Besides if you don't know its not real, how is it different from real life?
 

Ace of Spades

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No, I wouldn't. In theory, it sounds great, however I would essentially be abandoning everyone who cares about me. It would be akin to suicide. My parents, my brother, my girlfriend, all my friends, none of them would ever see me again, and I refuse to do that. My life right now is pretty good, so I would stay right where I am.
 

Lazy Kitty

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So basically it's like the Matrix, except without getting your body used as a generator to power the robots which took over the world?

I might use it.
 

AnkaraTheFallen

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If I didn't know it was fake I'd be tempted, but I got to say no, unless my gf can enter with me and we can still be together.
 

the rye

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This just sounds like the experience machine proposed by Nozick.
The answer of course is no we are not meant to plug our selves into the machine there is more to living than the shallow experience of happiness/pleasure.

The pleasure or happiness itself would be seen as a superficial happiness or pleasure and plugging into the machine as Nozick called it would leave us as an "indeterminate blob".
 

Herbsk

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Tjebbe said:
according to the Matrix, that didn't work.
Exactly this - Remember - the illusion would be rejected En Mass - As humans are imperfect creatures - the majority of them would never be able to accept an imperfect reality...which is more the pity.
 

AnkaraTheFallen

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Geo Da Sponge said:
Reminds me of the virtual reality game Better Than Life from Red Dwarf, which was supposed to give you what you wanted most. The problem was that one of the characters was so full of self-loathing that his sub-conscious basically set out to destroy him as part of his 'true desire'.
That was the TV version, and it's Rimmer that's the self loathing one, I preferred the books take on it where you got everything you wanted, but in the real world your body slowly rotted away. Also had a better story for what the characters actually wanted, rather than what the show used. Though the show is still great, and I loved that episode.
 

rayen020

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well it depends on what the machine is capable of. Can it produce a 3D realistic version of the entire poke'mon world (all lands from poke'mon blue/red to black/white)and transform me into an 11 year old boy about to get his first poke'mon from professor oak?

Or is it a preprogrammed perfect life and once i enter does it give me it's version of a perfect life and make my brain believe this is real world?

answers
scenario 1-yes
scenario 2-no
 

Rockchimp69

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But the people in it wouldn't be real? :/
Probably not then, I'd be very tempted but if the people in it aren't real then it wouldn't be worth it. And also I'm not sure a perfect life would really be the best one, there would be no struggle for success and it would probably get boring really quickly because of altogether how meaningless it all is.

Some people can live with that, I guess I can't.