X-men TV spinoff confirmed, given release date

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http://www.gamespot.com/articles/x-men-spinoff-tv-series-confirmed-for-2017-first-i/1100-6440370/

I didn't know this was a thing. It will be interesting to see how this squares up against the CW shows, the Marvel shkws, and the Netflix shows. It's a collaboration between Disney and Fox, so I think there's a good chance it will turn out okay.
 

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More TV?

I rather we have more Superhero animation then restrictive Live action.

I miss the 90s X-Men and Spiderman and Hulk cartoons.

And especially the DCAU.
 

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I don't have FX and also the synopsis doesn't sound interesting to me, so what I'm really curious about is what Marvel got out of this deal. Because it was not nothing, and it certainly was not a bit of pocket change.
 

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Zontar said:
I don't have FX and also the synopsis doesn't sound interesting to me, so what I'm really curious about is what Marvel got out of this deal. Because it was not nothing, and it certainly was not a bit of pocket change.
It was rumored that it was part of negotiations to get Fantastic Four back to Marvel, though if that fell through (and no reason yet to believe if has) then yeah I imagine they're getting a nice share of the profits without having to foot the bill for production.

OT: I'm surprised that they decided to go with a relatively unknown character, especially when they've never mentioned Xavier having a son in the movies (to my knowledge) which this is apparently supposed to be a spinoff of. I knew they were working on a mutant show at Fox, but I had figured they were going to just do one of the other kajillion X-teams from over the years like Generation X, X-Force, X-Factor, X-Corps, eXcalibur, and if they were feeling particularly bold and X-less maybe even Alpha Flight.
 

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I'm not sure I like what I've reading about the new series.

But, I make a solemn pledge - I will watch all of it, if they make this the shows theme music.


Otherwise I think I'll pass and stick with The Flash, thanks.
 

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Not part of MCU, not on Netflix, not animated. Thus I don't care. Disney should just make an X-Men cartoon to go with their other Marvel cartoons. Wolverine has already been featured in...all of them.
 

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I'm not sure I like what I've reading about the new series.

But, I make a solemn pledge - I will watch all of it, if they make this the shows theme music.


Otherwise I think I'll pass and stick with The Flash, thanks.
They could make that the intro music for a half hour of grass growing and paint drying and I would be down to watch.

Saelune said:
Not part of MCU, not on Netflix, not animated. Thus I don't care. Disney should just make an X-Men cartoon to go with their other Marvel cartoons. Wolverine has already been featured in...all of them.
Would be surprised if that happened, since most of their cartoons have been at least tangentially related to the movies.
 

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mduncan50 said:
Saelune said:
Not part of MCU, not on Netflix, not animated. Thus I don't care. Disney should just make an X-Men cartoon to go with their other Marvel cartoons. Wolverine has already been featured in...all of them.
Would be surprised if that happened, since most of their cartoons have been at least tangentially related to the movies.
Based off or inspired by, sure, but not beholden to the same issues the movies have, since various mutants/X-Men and the Fantastic Four have appeared in the shows.
 

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Saelune said:
mduncan50 said:
Saelune said:
Not part of MCU, not on Netflix, not animated. Thus I don't care. Disney should just make an X-Men cartoon to go with their other Marvel cartoons. Wolverine has already been featured in...all of them.
Would be surprised if that happened, since most of their cartoons have been at least tangentially related to the movies.
Based off or inspired by, sure, but not beholden to the same issues the movies have, since various mutants/X-Men and the Fantastic Four have appeared in the shows.
Right, thus tangentially. Basically the cartoons boost a kids interest in the movies and vice versa. That makes it unlikely that they would do a cartoon featuring characters from a movie franchise they don't own.
 

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mduncan50 said:
Saelune said:
mduncan50 said:
Saelune said:
Not part of MCU, not on Netflix, not animated. Thus I don't care. Disney should just make an X-Men cartoon to go with their other Marvel cartoons. Wolverine has already been featured in...all of them.
Would be surprised if that happened, since most of their cartoons have been at least tangentially related to the movies.
Based off or inspired by, sure, but not beholden to the same issues the movies have, since various mutants/X-Men and the Fantastic Four have appeared in the shows.
Right, thus tangentially. Basically the cartoons boost a kids interest in the movies and vice versa. That makes it unlikely that they would do a cartoon featuring characters from a movie franchise they don't own.
I really hate when "money" is used as an argument. I said should. Disney should make an X-Men cartoon. And X-Men and Fantastic Four should go to MCU.

Would is another story.
 

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Saelune said:
mduncan50 said:
Saelune said:
mduncan50 said:
Saelune said:
Not part of MCU, not on Netflix, not animated. Thus I don't care. Disney should just make an X-Men cartoon to go with their other Marvel cartoons. Wolverine has already been featured in...all of them.
Would be surprised if that happened, since most of their cartoons have been at least tangentially related to the movies.
Based off or inspired by, sure, but not beholden to the same issues the movies have, since various mutants/X-Men and the Fantastic Four have appeared in the shows.
Right, thus tangentially. Basically the cartoons boost a kids interest in the movies and vice versa. That makes it unlikely that they would do a cartoon featuring characters from a movie franchise they don't own.
I really hate when "money" is used as an argument. I said should. Disney should make an X-Men cartoon. And X-Men and Fantastic Four should go to MCU.

Would is another story.
It's a funny thing about businesses... they try to make money so as to continue their existence. Okay, well from a creative standpoint, either they stay true to the comic books and thus have characters unrecognizable by the majority of viewers, most probably turning them off from it and having the show potentially fail, or they follow closer to the movies, get accused of stealing Fox's ideas, turn of comic fans, again losing viewers and having the show potentially fail. I would personally love to see a new comic accurate X-Men show from Marvel, but I think that with the current situation the reasons they shouldn't make it outweigh the reasons they should.
 

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mduncan50 said:
I would personally love to see a new comic accurate X-Men show from Marvel, but I think that with the current situation the reasons they shouldn't make it outweigh the reasons they should.
Plus as it stands Marvel is moving its non-movie stuff away from the X-men and Fantastic Four on all fronts to have the void filled by other characters. They haven't said it (and even claim the opposite) but it's very obvious that they want the Inhumans to take the place of Mutants in their entire merchandise line. I mean even disregarding the comics (because the success of Marvel Studios and Marvel Television has made it so that Marvel Comics has no oversight and no quality control, and it really shows) it's getting harder to find X-men anything. The latest movie came out just last week and it's hard as hell to find anything that isn't crap like Pop!'s that licence literally everything under the sun.
 

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Saelune said:
mduncan50 said:
Saelune said:
mduncan50 said:
Saelune said:
Not part of MCU, not on Netflix, not animated. Thus I don't care. Disney should just make an X-Men cartoon to go with their other Marvel cartoons. Wolverine has already been featured in...all of them.
Would be surprised if that happened, since most of their cartoons have been at least tangentially related to the movies.
Based off or inspired by, sure, but not beholden to the same issues the movies have, since various mutants/X-Men and the Fantastic Four have appeared in the shows.
Right, thus tangentially. Basically the cartoons boost a kids interest in the movies and vice versa. That makes it unlikely that they would do a cartoon featuring characters from a movie franchise they don't own.

I really hate when "money" is used as an argument. I said should. Disney should make an X-Men cartoon. And X-Men and Fantastic Four should go to MCU.

Would is another story.
Damn, that would be a pile up. Taking the two largest, most congested super hero movie universe and cramming them them together, plus the Fantastic Four. The movie run times would make Dawn of Justice seem like a youtube short.

While it may open up some interesting villain choices, it would be an absolute mess on the hero side.
 

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AccursedTheory said:
Saelune said:
mduncan50 said:
Saelune said:
mduncan50 said:
Saelune said:
Not part of MCU, not on Netflix, not animated. Thus I don't care. Disney should just make an X-Men cartoon to go with their other Marvel cartoons. Wolverine has already been featured in...all of them.
Would be surprised if that happened, since most of their cartoons have been at least tangentially related to the movies.
Based off or inspired by, sure, but not beholden to the same issues the movies have, since various mutants/X-Men and the Fantastic Four have appeared in the shows.
Right, thus tangentially. Basically the cartoons boost a kids interest in the movies and vice versa. That makes it unlikely that they would do a cartoon featuring characters from a movie franchise they don't own.

I really hate when "money" is used as an argument. I said should. Disney should make an X-Men cartoon. And X-Men and Fantastic Four should go to MCU.

Would is another story.
Damn, that would be a pile up. Taking the two largest, most congested super hero movie universe and cramming them them together, plus the Fantastic Four. The movie run times would make Dawn of Justice seem like a youtube short.

While it may open up some interesting villain choices, it would be an absolute mess on the hero side.
Well, Id have to think if X-Men went back to Marvel proper, they'd have to reboot X-Men and mutants in, rather than try to connect the film franchises, especially after X-men Apocalypse.
 

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Saelune said:
AccursedTheory said:
Saelune said:
mduncan50 said:
Saelune said:
mduncan50 said:
Saelune said:
Not part of MCU, not on Netflix, not animated. Thus I don't care. Disney should just make an X-Men cartoon to go with their other Marvel cartoons. Wolverine has already been featured in...all of them.
Would be surprised if that happened, since most of their cartoons have been at least tangentially related to the movies.
Based off or inspired by, sure, but not beholden to the same issues the movies have, since various mutants/X-Men and the Fantastic Four have appeared in the shows.
Right, thus tangentially. Basically the cartoons boost a kids interest in the movies and vice versa. That makes it unlikely that they would do a cartoon featuring characters from a movie franchise they don't own.

I really hate when "money" is used as an argument. I said should. Disney should make an X-Men cartoon. And X-Men and Fantastic Four should go to MCU.

Would is another story.
Damn, that would be a pile up. Taking the two largest, most congested super hero movie universe and cramming them them together, plus the Fantastic Four. The movie run times would make Dawn of Justice seem like a youtube short.

While it may open up some interesting villain choices, it would be an absolute mess on the hero side.

Well, Id have to think if X-Men went back to Marvel proper, they'd have to reboot X-Men and mutants in, rather than try to connect the film franchises, especially after X-men Apocalypse.
It's still a crowded scene. Though I'm wondering if you just want 'MCU quality' applied to the X-Men universe, and don't really want/care for an entire mash up.

I suppose the X-Men could work as a concurrent but not interacting team, like the GotG, but I would think it would be hard to start justifying why the Avengers and the X-Men aren't working together.
 

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AccursedTheory said:
Saelune said:
AccursedTheory said:
Saelune said:
mduncan50 said:
Saelune said:
mduncan50 said:
Saelune said:
Not part of MCU, not on Netflix, not animated. Thus I don't care. Disney should just make an X-Men cartoon to go with their other Marvel cartoons. Wolverine has already been featured in...all of them.
Would be surprised if that happened, since most of their cartoons have been at least tangentially related to the movies.
Based off or inspired by, sure, but not beholden to the same issues the movies have, since various mutants/X-Men and the Fantastic Four have appeared in the shows.
Right, thus tangentially. Basically the cartoons boost a kids interest in the movies and vice versa. That makes it unlikely that they would do a cartoon featuring characters from a movie franchise they don't own.

I really hate when "money" is used as an argument. I said should. Disney should make an X-Men cartoon. And X-Men and Fantastic Four should go to MCU.

Would is another story.
Damn, that would be a pile up. Taking the two largest, most congested super hero movie universe and cramming them them together, plus the Fantastic Four. The movie run times would make Dawn of Justice seem like a youtube short.

While it may open up some interesting villain choices, it would be an absolute mess on the hero side.

Well, Id have to think if X-Men went back to Marvel proper, they'd have to reboot X-Men and mutants in, rather than try to connect the film franchises, especially after X-men Apocalypse.
It's still a crowded scene. Though I'm wondering if you just want 'MCU quality' applied to the X-Men universe, and don't really want/care for an entire mash up.

I suppose the X-Men could work as a concurrent but not interacting team, like the GotG, but I would think it would be hard to start justifying why the Avengers and the X-Men aren't working together.
Nope. I want the mess. MCU is my main Marvel since the comics have hit the shitter. And who said not working together? I want Wolverine and Beast in the Avengers. Hell, I want Marvel: Ultimate Alliance: The movie.
 

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Saelune said:
AccursedTheory said:
Saelune said:
AccursedTheory said:
Saelune said:
mduncan50 said:
Saelune said:
mduncan50 said:
Saelune said:
Not part of MCU, not on Netflix, not animated. Thus I don't care. Disney should just make an X-Men cartoon to go with their other Marvel cartoons. Wolverine has already been featured in...all of them.
Would be surprised if that happened, since most of their cartoons have been at least tangentially related to the movies.
Based off or inspired by, sure, but not beholden to the same issues the movies have, since various mutants/X-Men and the Fantastic Four have appeared in the shows.
Right, thus tangentially. Basically the cartoons boost a kids interest in the movies and vice versa. That makes it unlikely that they would do a cartoon featuring characters from a movie franchise they don't own.

I really hate when "money" is used as an argument. I said should. Disney should make an X-Men cartoon. And X-Men and Fantastic Four should go to MCU.

Would is another story.
Damn, that would be a pile up. Taking the two largest, most congested super hero movie universe and cramming them them together, plus the Fantastic Four. The movie run times would make Dawn of Justice seem like a youtube short.

While it may open up some interesting villain choices, it would be an absolute mess on the hero side.

Well, Id have to think if X-Men went back to Marvel proper, they'd have to reboot X-Men and mutants in, rather than try to connect the film franchises, especially after X-men Apocalypse.
It's still a crowded scene. Though I'm wondering if you just want 'MCU quality' applied to the X-Men universe, and don't really want/care for an entire mash up.

I suppose the X-Men could work as a concurrent but not interacting team, like the GotG, but I would think it would be hard to start justifying why the Avengers and the X-Men aren't working together.

Nope. I want the mess. MCU is my main Marvel since the comics have hit the shitter. And who said not working together? I want Wolverine and Beast in the Avengers. Hell, I want Marvel: Ultimate Alliance: The movie.
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AccursedTheory said:
It's still a crowded scene. Though I'm wondering if you just want 'MCU quality' applied to the X-Men universe, and don't really want/care for an entire mash up.
Applying "MCU quality" to the X-Men films is like saying Coke is better than Pepsi. In the end, you're getting junk food most of the time regardless of your choice, apart from the occassional healthy beverage that the respective companies might provide.

(Yes, I know, it's snark, but come on, let me have this one. ^_^)
 

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Saelune said:
AccursedTheory said:
Saelune said:
mduncan50 said:
Saelune said:
mduncan50 said:
Saelune said:
Not part of MCU, not on Netflix, not animated. Thus I don't care. Disney should just make an X-Men cartoon to go with their other Marvel cartoons. Wolverine has already been featured in...all of them.
Would be surprised if that happened, since most of their cartoons have been at least tangentially related to the movies.
Based off or inspired by, sure, but not beholden to the same issues the movies have, since various mutants/X-Men and the Fantastic Four have appeared in the shows.
Right, thus tangentially. Basically the cartoons boost a kids interest in the movies and vice versa. That makes it unlikely that they would do a cartoon featuring characters from a movie franchise they don't own.

I really hate when "money" is used as an argument. I said should. Disney should make an X-Men cartoon. And X-Men and Fantastic Four should go to MCU.

Would is another story.
Damn, that would be a pile up. Taking the two largest, most congested super hero movie universe and cramming them them together, plus the Fantastic Four. The movie run times would make Dawn of Justice seem like a youtube short.

While it may open up some interesting villain choices, it would be an absolute mess on the hero side.
Well, Id have to think if X-Men went back to Marvel proper, they'd have to reboot X-Men and mutants in, rather than try to connect the film franchises, especially after X-men Apocalypse.
Yeah, considering that with the current X-Men timeline if they all joined up in an Avengers movie they would be in their 50s and 60s, so yeah a reboot is probably needed. But yeah, if they did it properly, having only a few X-Men be actual characters while the rest are basically treated as henchmen/soldiers (for just the team up movie) I can see them working in Infinity War. The fans would know who they were and appreciate their involvement while the casual viewer simply wouldn't care, nor need to.