......why bother hacking on the 360... i mean hell it's not worth having your console bricked or promote that your doing it online. Jesus Christ this is why I stay far away from xbox live.
I think jail will cheat him a dozen other ways to have sex.Booze Zombie said:You ain't going to be any form of predator in jail, boy.
>Implying having sex with my girlfriend is more immoral than the laws he broke.DaHero said:I'd love to know the similarities between the two ideals considering pre-marital sex is more immoral than hacking someones account.
Lol when people think it isn't.Patrick_and_the_ricks said:I lol when people think password resetting combined with social engineering is hacking... Most of the "modders" and "hackers" on xbox are usually trolls and live for this sort of crap. If anything it just hurts the cause they try and push, making groups like Anonymous seem chaotic and inmature.
That's why that PS3 hacker Geohotz is going to have to pay out his ass.
I'm not saying it doesn't work, I'm saying it isn't hacking. Hacking isn't pretending to be someone and making a phone call. It's usually piracy or hardware and software modding.Keava said:Lol when people think it isn't.Patrick_and_the_ricks said:I lol when people think password resetting combined with social engineering is hacking... Most of the "modders" and "hackers" on xbox are usually trolls and live for this sort of crap. If anything it just hurts the cause they try and push, making groups like Anonymous seem chaotic and inmature.
That's why that PS3 hacker Geohotz is going to have to pay out his ass.
Quite many of the big hacks in the history of internet were possible exactly thanks to that. The recent Anonymous attack on HBGary? Phishing e-mail, not to mention the whole story of Kevin Mitnick - one of 'big names' in the scene that supposedly never used any cracking software and gained all the passwords thanks to social engineering.
Why spend hours on looking through thousand sof lines of code when one call or forged e-mail can grant you the same result?
Please, learn the history behind the terms you are using, especially if you are using them wrongly.Patrick_and_the_ricks said:I'm not saying it doesn't work, I'm saying it isn't hacking. Hacking isn't pretending to be someone and making a phone call. It's usually piracy or hardware and software modding.
I'm well aware of how effect social engineering can be, but there is a difference between the two.
I wasn't thinking of the evil hackers when I said pirates or modders. I was thinking of the type of people who hack kinect for gmod, and I never once said it was bad. So don't get condescending with me simply becuase you don't like my view.Keava said:It's sad that even nearly 30 years after the term got it's pejorative meaning created by media and we still use it that way. Maybe it will sound surprising, my dear friend, but those 'evil hackers' created the internet you know, they even, gasp, created the OS you use, Bill Gates himself was considered a hacker in the 70s, Linus is a hacker. The term was created by people from MIT who were behind free software movement and originally meant "a person who delights in having an intimate understanding of the internal workings of a system, computers and computer networks in particular."Patrick_and_the_ricks said:I'm not saying it doesn't work, I'm saying it isn't hacking. Hacking isn't pretending to be someone and making a phone call. It's usually piracy or hardware and software modding.
I'm well aware of how effect social engineering can be, but there is a difference between the two.
Wow, isn't very often we get genuinely witty comments on the internet. Kudos to you, you made me smile/lqtm. Which is much more impressive than it sounds, honestly.Booze Zombie said:You ain't going to be any form of predator in jail, boy.
Geohots is just fighting with Sony. Predator is fighting with all people who own a live account.cainx10a said:I might honestly believe GeoHotz should not be punished for his "crimes". But this Predator-guy, I hope Microsoft crush him with all its might.
I just wanted to point out that you got "crackers" and "script kiddies" backwards since you used the term "respectively".Keava said:Please, learn the history behind the terms you are using, especially if you are using them wrongly.Patrick_and_the_ricks said:I'm not saying it doesn't work, I'm saying it isn't hacking. Hacking isn't pretending to be someone and making a phone call. It's usually piracy or hardware and software modding.
I'm well aware of how effect social engineering can be, but there is a difference between the two.
It's sad that even nearly 30 years after the term got it's pejorative meaning created by media and we still use it that way. Maybe it will sound surprising, my dear friend, but those 'evil hackers' created the internet you know, they even, gasp, created the OS you use, Bill Gates himself was considered a hacker in the 70s, Linus is a hacker. The term was created by people from MIT who were behind free software movement and originally meant "a person who delights in having an intimate understanding of the internal workings of a system, computers and computer networks in particular."
The people you think about ? The ones doing piracy and those that DDoS for lulz or use bruteforce password generators? They are called crackers and script kiddies respectively. Completely different thing.
Now of course, the people who breach computer security are considered hackers these days, but they rarely are even remotely concerned about things like piracy, they look for information, secrets, and every bit of non-public data.