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I wish more people thought like that. I love having the exchangeable batteries as opposed to batteries that are fixed inside of the controller.GryffinDarkBreed said:
Also good news, Microsoft is using an industry standard for its controllers USB charging unlike their last controller. So you can charge with a micro-usb cable. If it works like the 360 controllers you can actually run it without a battery connected. Something to think about.
Is there any reason - corporate fiat aside - that existing 360 controllers won't work with the new console? In the same spirit, will existing 360 battery packs work with the One controllers?
If the answer to both those questions is "no", I will be very disappointed in Microsoft.
If the answer to both those questions is "no", I will be very disappointed in Microsoft.
Microsoft have built themselves such a nice gaming empire that the Xbox One (Xbone) is there way of seeing how much they can get away with. It's the consumer's job to snap them back to reality.
If they want to make more money by having you pay for things that should be included, don't buy them. And soon things will return to normal.
It's like that one person, at that place you work, that realises he has a fair bit of job security and likes to push the limits to see how much he can get away with. All the while knowing he won't be fired.
Consumers are the employers in this situation. We should remind that employee that if you keep acting like an unprofessional jackass we're going to find someone else to do their job.
If they want to make more money by having you pay for things that should be included, don't buy them. And soon things will return to normal.
It's like that one person, at that place you work, that realises he has a fair bit of job security and likes to push the limits to see how much he can get away with. All the while knowing he won't be fired.
Consumers are the employers in this situation. We should remind that employee that if you keep acting like an unprofessional jackass we're going to find someone else to do their job.
Yeah, the fact that you can build a mid-to-high-end gaming rig for $600-800 and upgrade it for pennies later on is definitely a point against it. Also access to amazon, steam, gog, GMG, etc to get games for less than $60 or $50 pre-owned. Also a single company not holding the reigns over every aspect of your machine.Midniqht said:
Also, what? Compatibility "issues?" You know that I can still play my PC games from the 90s? I can literally pop in my WC2 discs that were made for windows 98 and they work perfectly fine. I can play doom 2 via DOS and it runs perfectly fine. Can you put your HALO 1 disc in an xbone and have it work? Why would you mention compatibility at all? It's something consoles are so hilariously godawful at that it's ALWAYS a point in the PC's favor.
When a new generation of games come out, they simply add onto the massive existing PC-games library. When a new console generation comes out, they throw backwards compatibility out the window to squeeze every penny from anyone silly enough to still be buying consoles long after they've lost their point. Stop supporting a dying market. Stop supporting greedy devs. And most of all, stop trying to act like consoles have a point anymore; everything they can do, PCs do better, cheaper, faster and with more options for literally everything. And since the last-gen theme of console firmware updates, individual game updates, kinect firmware updates, DLC updates, recalibrating/fixing settings for anything that broke or the console simply forgot due to the updates, consoles aren't even "put game in, play game" any more than PCs are.
It honestly baffles me that anyone still supports a market so obviously bent on taking as much of their money as possible and giving them as little as possible in return. If I was seriously still playing consoles in 2013, I'd be demanding a return to format from devs. If they can't make a console that is true plug and play, they don't deserve my money. If they can only make a console that's as much of a pain in the ass to run as a PC and doesn't offer all the additional utility and freedom that a PC offers, what the hell is the point?
I'll be buying a PS4 and I can't say I'm happy about that either. So, yes. I am just as much against that as with the Xbox One thing. But not because it's a Xbox One (I have other reasons to be against that thing), but because it's a lot of mulla for an extra controller. I'm not a fan of spending that much money on anything. Sometimes I'm reluctant to buy games and will wait a bit for a price drop. Can't do that with these things.oggebogge91 said:
This... isn't THAT bad? It could be worse, yes, but it really isn't that bad compared to some costs for controllers I find these days, and other peripherals. I mean, I've seen $60 wireless 360 controllers, same with Sony's PS3 stuff, so I found that to be the norm. $25 for a headset also isn't as bad as it sounds. Maybe I'm just crazy?
That actually sounds rather cheap, actually. Reasonable headsets are usually like $35+.Earnest Cavalli said:
No idea about the rest, though.
And rumor has it Microsoft is working on an adapter to make Xbox 360 and other universal 2.5mm plug headsets work with the systemSL33TBL1ND said:
That's what my contribution to this thread was going to be. I was working retail when the 360 and Wii launched, and I still remember the prices. The Wiimote was sorta the most expensive, because it was $60 for both the main 'mote ($40) and the Nunchuk ($20). Alternately, the PS3 and Xbox360 controllers were $50 for the wireless, and $40 if you wanted to go wired.MinionJoe said:
The fact that they've not done any improvements over the original 360 controller makes being forced to pay all over again at a higher price rather insulting. I pity the people that were suckered into buying all 4 controllers for all the quadrants, expecting there to be more split-screen play like previous generations. The play and charge kit was also always way overpriced, considering how you could get a 24 pack of rechargeable AA batteries for roughly the same price where I worked.
Alright letsee...AuronFtw said:
I built this PC 3 years ago for $1400 (without an OS, had one I could use). ASUS 6870 HD, Phenom II X4 @ 3.4Ghz, 1TB HDD, 20 inch screen, 700W Power supply, M4N98TD EVO motherboard, 4GB of RAM. Since then I've had to upgrade and replace parts which has taken around an extra $3k out of my pockets. This includes a Corsair 750W power supply, an ASUS AMD 7850 2GB, 4GB of RAM (it was meant to be 8 but one stick was dead) a Corsair 200R case and a 128GB SSD...oh and my mouse, a Sharkoon Fireglider Black. Plus there was replacement headsets and stuff thrown into this cost. Soon I'm going to have to upgrade my motherboard, processor and RAM which is gonna cost me around another $500-$600. Not to mention after all this 1/7 games I get will work without tweaking or looking for solutions. One game still BSODs after an ungodly amount of searching, fresh reinstalls and updates.
So really, I might be Australian, but it isn't as cheap as people say, even when you do shop around and find good deals.
A wireless controller retails at 49.99 USD, which is ten bucks less. A Play and Charge Kit combo is 64.99, also ten bucks less. Headsets start at 14.99, which is--you guessed it--ten bucks less.sid said:
A ten dollar jump isn't horrible, but considering how bad their controllers are in terms of longevity, it can get quite expensive. For my PC, I have multiple Afterglow contorllers, which have lasted me longer and are on par in terms of quality (I just hate the back/start shape/placement), but they're not wireless, so there may be some limited appeal. The point being I can see why people would be bothered. Especially if the controllers are as crappy.
In the interest of fairness, it costs at least 75 dollars to mimmick the functionality of a PS4 controller out of the box, as the PS4 is a rechargeable controller without added expense. It's also 5 bucks above current list, which makes it the same price as launch for PS3 controllers.oggebogge91 said:
One has jacked the price for their next gen (and even removed an item, the headset), and the other has not.
Honestly, I wasn't quite talking about the hardware-to-software/game compatibility. Sorry for not clarifying. You're right on PC having the favor of playing (X) software titles whenever the hell you want. I was referencing more of the actual hardware-to-hardware compatibility, however common or rare the issue may be. I've had more than my fair share of technical headaches, and I know I'm not alone (and I work in an IT role - shit just gets complicated sometimes). You can't assume that everyone who games on PC knows what the hell they're doing with the hardware. Some people may not even know a GPU from a CPU. Also, hardware is a fickle mistress.AuronFtw said:
Example: My GPU causes x/y/z issue with this Game A on steam but it doesn't happen with my other GPU or with Game B. I have Win 7 or Vista or XP and if I have this much RAM I bluescreen and yadda-yadda. Shit like that is more what I was talking about. PC has the flexibility, sure, but it comes with a knowledge requirement.
The big thing consoles have going for them is the fact that anyone could go out and buy one without knowing a damn thing about the internals, and never have to. They can get several years of entertainment without having to worry about it, save for whatever technical flubbery the actual consoles may have (like a red-ring) which would usually get fixed over time anyway. Also, dunno about you, but I built my current gaming PC (OOH, a PC AND Console gamer?!) for ~$800. Upgrades aren't just pennies on the dollar. If you want to stay current and not just have a budget machine, the price can add up quickly, even if all you're doing is swapping out a graphics card (and I'm not counting the headsets you could buy for PC, the gaming keyboards and mice, cost of the OS itself, etc.). My point is, I don't think the price of these peripherals are unreasonable to the average buyer, and I don't think either console is necessarily going to see a drastic price difference.
Honestly, those prices aren't THAT bad....
I mean, sure... having to buy an ADDITIONAL battery for the controller is a bit of a misstep (yay PS's controllers with in-built batteries and USB connectivity) But it was like that with the 360 too..
All in all, I'll repeat, the prices aren't as bad as they could've been...
That being said, I won't be buying one because the XBox One isn't on my "To buy" list as my PC is more than capable....
- No I do NOT have a USB 360 controller already, and I will not be buying one of those either....
I mean, sure... having to buy an ADDITIONAL battery for the controller is a bit of a misstep (yay PS's controllers with in-built batteries and USB connectivity) But it was like that with the 360 too..
All in all, I'll repeat, the prices aren't as bad as they could've been...
That being said, I won't be buying one because the XBox One isn't on my "To buy" list as my PC is more than capable....
- No I do NOT have a USB 360 controller already, and I will not be buying one of those either....
So the controller is 10 dollars more expensive....the headset is 5 bucks more expensive...the battery pack is 5 bucks more expensive....console is 100 bucks more...BUT Xbox live stays the same? Are you sure you didn't miss something? Isn't Xbox live supposed to be 70 bucks now?
Never bought a play and charge kit for my 360, already had rechargeable AA batteries, way better life in them too.
PC mouses cost $10... and people say the master race is expensive... I don't know how I ever justified buying 2 Xbox 360 controllers considering they are $60... I won't make that mistake again.
Waiting for some uninformed fool to quote me and tell me how gaming PC's cost $3000...
Waiting for some uninformed fool to quote me and tell me how gaming PC's cost $3000...