Xbox One Backlash Was "Unfair," Molyneux Says

Cecilo

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Thoralata said:
direkiller said:
Thoralata said:
As long as Steam continues to be used, people getting pissy about Always On DRM will be rightfully ignored
PC for the most part dopped the online only thing a few years ago, out of a large backlash. Steam included

most steam games only require it check into the server, then can be offline for the rest of the time the computer is on.
About a quarter of my games don't require that at all, some of these needed internet on there first start up and that was it.
Only one game I own requires online all the time and that is Planetside 2, which is more for the game itself rather then a DRM restriction.
That doesn't change the fact that if your computer boots without a connection and you cannot get one, you're fucked when you're using Steam.

Steam is the same level of annoying as XBox One, Origin, and every other DRM/Distribution service. It's just that people have ben using it for far longer than the others, which are relatively new. So Steam users have had plenty of time for the Stockholm Syndrome to set in.
Uh. No you aren't. Steam will process for a minute, then go "Hey. Would you like to start in offline mode?" - You click yes, it starts in offline mode, Tada, offline games. Happened to me several times actually, because my ISP was being a lazy git, or doing maintenance. The only games that don't work, are obviously, Planetside 2, Team Fortress 2, basically any MMO or Exclusively multiplayer game and the multiplayer side of any of my other games, for obvious reasons, And that isn't Valve's fault. They cant magically fill a game with bots just for you.

Xbox one was a "You have no internet connection? Get lost bum, damned pirates." And while it may have waited 24 hours, Valve's offline mode lets you stay offline for at least one week some have said up to months. You could bring your hard drive to a friend's house, let it validate whatever it needs too, and then keep playing for months on end.

So, no, they aren't the same, and I Can guarantee you, Microsoft won't be giving you 90% Off sales on their marketplace. Why would they, you have no where else to go for xbox games if they are always online.
 

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Why are developers so intent on defending the Xbox One?
Customers didn't want the features it had, Microsoft responded.

There are times where the customers can make the wrong decision. But since "always-online" has a bad precedent, they're pretty justified in this case.
 

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Pete... Im sure others have said it, but it needs to be said in non-molyneaux like simplicity.

STFU nOOb!

Seriously?!?!

(under normal circumstances I am usually pretty damned forgiving of some of the horseshit Petey spits out, but this is intolerable)

Peter Molyneux says the backlash against the Xbox One was "unfair," as Microsoft was simply trying to execute a bold long-term vision for a future in which everyone is always online.
Nooo... the only thing "unfair" about the whole ordeal was Microsoft being bound and determined to cram something down the throats of consumers they do not want. Sorry, but if Microsoft "wants" that future is evidence enough for anyone to know they do not want any part of that future. I know I do not want that future, As many others do not like having their rights and protections usurped just because the hardware producer wants them. I do not want a future where one organization within the industry can proactively attempt to destroy the entire industry in a blatant grab for all the power and control over the product, when they have no ground to stand on to expect such.

Why does anyone need this explained to them? Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it. How can anyone look at history in a capitalist "free market" system that is built upon and can only exist on greed (for so long before it has to devour itself) and ignore what happens every time that businesses gain too much power. How can anyone ignore Microsofts lauded history of striving to become the greatest evil corporation with too much power the world has ever known. How can anyone dismiss the nauseating trends the industry has created this past generation pushing us kicking and screaming because we know we want no part of this "brave new world" they are trying to sell. Anyone who learns from history knows the simple truth. It is the same old broken, diseased and dying world they have always been trying to dupe people into tolerating.

Then for Peter Molyneaux of all people, to have the audacity is downright bewildering. Someone who specifically has been part of making a stylized game world that illustrated and typified some of the primary examples of where all this goes wrong. Remember that game you made that was modeled after early industrial revolution England? You know with all the poor people living in bowerstone slums, and playing as a filthy orphaned street urchin like it was fresh out of Charles Dickens mouth, and the only thing missing was soot covered child laborers working as chimney sweeps and the whole thing would be complete.

Seriously. Sometimes I cannot make up my mind if he suffers from "childlike whimsy" issues like Michael Jackson, Is absolutely fearless and masochistic for people to hate him, or his own special brand of neurosis that will be bigger and more interactive than any other neurosis before. Where you can take a simple delusion of grandeur and through deep, meaningful and complex relationships forged with the various entities inside his head you can watch the seed you plant in birthing a delusional fool and watch it grow and blossom into a complete civilization of full of endearing and complex delusional manifestations, each fully fleshed out and ready to be called upon on a whim. Then should the fancy take hold, branch off the various mental debilitations into groups that form their own independent colonies in the mind, each vying for supremecy and their own survival as the multitude of delusions begin to consume every last ounce of his imagination that the inevitable war to cull the weaker defects in order to make room ends in all out imaginary warfare and the fate of his kingdom hangs in the balance.

Basically, It WOULD be fitting that Molyneaux would present with such a neurological breakdown that would have to be on par with his descriptions of whatever project he is working on. Beyond grandios, detailing all manner of alluring concepts and ideas that even the most uniformed can tell they are well beyond anyones capacity to actually create and when finally presented for all to see all that is shown is a withered, wrinkly old man sitting naked inside of a cube for 6 months, in quiet desperation waiting for someone to finally chip through the walls of his delusional cell to finally be unleased upon all manner of sentience in all his liverspot encrusted glory.

TL;DR Sorry for random verbosity. Seemed fitting. But the point is clear.

Hey Petey, WTF?!?! STFU nOOb! Thats literally all that needs to be said in this case it seems.
 

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Thoralata said:
direkiller said:
Thoralata said:
As long as Steam continues to be used, people getting pissy about Always On DRM will be rightfully ignored
PC for the most part dopped the online only thing a few years ago, out of a large backlash. Steam included

most steam games only require it check into the server, then can be offline for the rest of the time the computer is on.
About a quarter of my games don't require that at all, some of these needed internet on there first start up and that was it.
Only one game I own requires online all the time and that is Planetside 2, which is more for the game itself rather then a DRM restriction.
That doesn't change the fact that if your computer boots without a connection and you cannot get one, you're fucked when you're using Steam.

Steam is the same level of annoying as XBox One, Origin, and every other DRM/Distribution service. It's just that people have ben using it for far longer than the others, which are relatively new. So Steam users have had plenty of time for the Stockholm Syndrome to set in.
accualy we both are wrong. Turns out you don't even need to connect once.

steam dose not need that one authentication tried it for three different games after startup without internet,
even dark souls with GFWL worked offline without connecting to the internet once.- first start-up too.

So yes Steam has responded to the public backlash of how the offline mode was not working.
 

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the ironic thing about the backlash is that it will save the xbox one from being a complete disaster. with the always on cconections,the country limits, etc the consumer base was going to be half of what it was for the x box
Thats how I was thinking myself. If people didn't freak out so much the thing would be been the biggest turd in history.
 

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Small man using big words trying to convince people that always online is the shit.

Hey Peter, if you really are that committed to proving Always online is the best thing to happen to gaming, how about you tell me how this crap can fly:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/125526-Darkspore-Gone-Forever-Due-to-Abandoned-DRM-UPDATED

But yeah, I agree micrsoft should have kept their announced plans, so they could have gotten their richly deserved fail when xbone flopped.
 

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You might be on-line a great deal in your life but that doesn't mean that you are are going to be on-line with the same device day after day.

I own a Blu-Ray player and I rather like. But with the way I work I only turn on the Blu-Ray player on the weekend when I have time for things like movies. I rather enjoy reading books on my Kindle Fire as well, but that doesn't mean that every time I fire up the Kindle Fire I will be somewhere that has good Wi-Fi access.

I love some of the the things you can do now thanks to better connections to the internet, but I still want the freedom to decide when I'll access something and with what device. I never want any system that forces me to do something when I'm not in the mood.
 

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I like how Molyneux is making a fool of himself.
Seriously, trying to defend a model that suffered a whole lot of backlash? Well, guess what: no one was going to buy the Bone as it was and that's what counts. Whether he THINKS the backlash was 'unfair' or not isn't just uninteresting, it's completely irrelevant. Did other console reveals ever get that kind of backlash? No, not really. That means the Xbone received and deserved the backlash for a reason which is the only thing that matters.

If somebody gives you a piece of crap as your birthday present, would backlash on that also be 'unfair' cause someone thought it'd be fun or even a good idea? That's just what the Xbone is: a piece of crap that they thought we would be happy to dish out 500 bucks for. Yeah, sure. Molyneux thank you for opening my eyes, of course I am gonna buy the Bone now cause I don't like being called unfair by you of all people. :p Ridiculous. How about him releasing an actually enjoyable game or is that kind of criticism also unfair? That may explain his position on the Xbone since charging people for mediocre products isn't unfair in his book I suppose. And having those people actually voice their opinion is absolutely unacceptable, huh? Get out of here.
 

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Peter, why are you still talking about these things?

You used up all your remaining credibility a long time ago. Now you're just another hack without a clue.