Xbox One Controller PC Compatible in 2014

[WeepingAngels]

So let me make sure I understand you . You believe that most Windows 8 haters have actually bought it, installed it, used it for a while and then went back to Windows 7? That is what you are saying, right?

You don't understand me. Just because I believe your stance is ridiculous and likely steeped in personal emotion rather than anything of use to the matter at hand does not mean I therefore flip to the other side of the argument.

Life is easier when one doesn't deal in extremes, honestly.

You don't understand me apparently.

Let's recap. I said:

I wonder how many people who hate Windows 8 have actually used it for more than a few minutes.

Then you said:

And really, the most logical explanation isn't that other people dislike something you like, it's that they just haven't given it a shot.

Well, I am thinking that you must believe that most people who hate Windows 8 must have "given it a shot" so I ask if that is the case. Here it is:

So let me make sure I understand you . You believe that most Windows 8 haters have actually bought it, installed it, used it for a while and then went back to Windows 7? That is what you are saying, right?

Then you go for the personal attacks because you can't answer the question I asked you. Well, it should be obvious to you (of all people since you pointed this out) that I am not writing a glowing recommendation for Windows 8. There is no "personal emotion" on my end, is there any on your end? I just said that:

- It isn't as bad as the haters say it is
- It's faster than Windows 7

 

[Extra-Ordinary]

Well, that's kind of neat.
I've already got a PS3 controller hooked up to my PC but it's still kind of neat.

 

[Chicago Ted]

Can't see much point in getting one, honestly. The games on PC that control better with a controller (which aren't that numerous) work just fine with a 360 controller, or I imagine with a lot of other third party controllers. Unlike consoles, PC users don't need to change keyboards of controllers with each upgrade.

And yet, people will go out of their way to get a more ergonomic keyboard or mouse. It's like there's already a built-in explanation within your example or something.

Uh... You're pretty much missing the point of that post entirely.

What is being said is that the 360 controller already works for PC, and there is no apparent point in upgrading it, and then pointing out the needlessness in having to change controllers every console cycle, as all it does is force people to rebuy new ones if they want extras.

Seriously, what has been changed for this new controller that makes it superior to the old one? The only changes I can notice are that the home, select, and start buttons are moved around slightly, the shoulder is a bit different, and the d-pad is a bit more separated. All these changes are only in regards to shape. There are no additional buttons or inputs as far as I can tell from the picture provided. What makes it so that 360 controllers are unusable with the new console other than the fact that it's a new console and so therefore the controllers have to be different for no real reason?

You're point on ergonomic keyboards is completely baseless and has nothing to do with the previous point, and the way you worded the second sentence makes you comes off rather arrogant. All you are doing is attempting to spin the point to mean something else, and then coming up with a different argument to defeat it. Recalling back to a class on Critical Thinking and the textbook that came with it, I'm pretty sure that's classified as a Straw Man Fallacy.

If I go out of my way to purchase an alternative keyboard and mouse set, either one that is more ergonomic, or a mouse that offers additional hotkeys, or something like that, and then a few years down the line I go and upgrade my tower, I will still be able to take my old keyboard and mouse set, and use them with the new tower. Unless there is a massive change in technology between those two time periods (In this case, USB devices being made completely obsolete and unused), the old keyboard and mouse will be able to be used with the new tower.

 

[Something Amyss]

Well, I am thinking that you must believe that most people who hate Windows 8 must have "given it a shot" so I ask if that is the case. Here it is:

See, you shifted the goalposts right there in order to justify your new argument.

Then you go for the personal attacks because you can't answer the question I asked you.

Now now, no need to lie. I DID answer your question, and an explanation is not a personal attack. If you think I was attacking you, mark me, but for the love of God don't cry wolf because you don't like the answers you are given.

I just said that:

- It isn't as bad as the haters say it is
- It's faster than Windows 7

That's not "just" what you said, and you even quoted yourself saying otherwise in this very same post.

 

[Something Amyss]

What is being said is that the 360 controller already works for PC, and there is no apparent point in upgrading it

Same could be said of a basic K+M. People will still upgrade even for better ergonomics (no additional features like extra functions or buttons), so the comparison stands.

I guess your point does still stand though: What benefit is there in improved ergonomics, precision, and reduced dead spots? What benefit is there to a wireless controller that can be plugged in to act like a wired one? What benefits are there to a functional D-pad? What benefit could there be from haptic feedback? Better connectivity?

And the crux of the matter, I suppose is: what benefit is there from being able to choose which you use? What benefit is there from being able to use what you might already have due to console ownership?

Perhaps you can answer these.

I suppose a better question is "what is the point of acting like nothing's changed when there's plenty of coverage and even a link in the article you're commenting on to detail them?"

I'm not sure if you're being disingenuous or literally decided to knock something not just without doing your homework, but while having your homework laid out in front of you. Either way, you should know better.