Xbox One Could Be Microsoft's Last Console

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SkarKrow said:
The original Xbox outsdold the Gamecube worldwide by a small margin, and outsold the Dreamcast by almost 14 million units.

It was however, eclipsed, by the PS2. But everything was that generation. The current gen I think worldwide it has come last though, but I'd have to check the PS3 figures.
Even though the original Xbox beat the Gamecube by 2 million units(which isn't very stellar considering how that's still around 26 million sold in total) note how Nintendo didn't once post a financial loss on the Gamecube despite being third place in that generation, and Xbox original still had a humongous loss.

That generation in and of itself should of given Microsoft a clear warning of what is to come if they don't fix this right now.

If you can still come in second place (barely but still second.) and have humongous losses while third place is posting profits in the black then something needs to change down the development line.

Looking at the Xbox One however, it seems that 3 cycles of this and they still don't fucking get it.
 

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Mmmmm the thing is , the gaming industry won't get any benefit this, I'm hoping to see nintendo throw the towel since the crappy n64 now that would help the industry and our pockets, why ? I won't have to buy any of those the crappy Nintendo consoles with crappy gadgets to play: Mario/Zelda/Metroid/Smash brothers/ ect...
and people still continue to hope Nintendo goes dead in the water. Too bad that won't happen in the next 50 years.
In fact, I would say Sony is more closer to dropping, then Microsoft.
Sony is starting to become like Nintendo in the sense that the only division still keeping them alive right now is their console hard ware division.
Their other hardware like televisions and such have increasingly become trash and nobody is willing to buy them anymore.
They had to sell their US headquarters building just to turn a profit, and are now just recovering from the 2 billion dollar loss of the initial release of the PS3. A loss so big that it basically ate up all of their earnings from the PS1 and PS2.
Microsoft is still making good business in their other sectors. The possible end of their console division seems more like a trim the fat kind of deal as opposed to a corporation in a dire situation.

Also, Nintendo hardware may not be the most technologically advanced, but to say they are crap is an insult. Every Nintendo system I have owned thus far all the way back from the N64 still works like it was brand new. That's not really something I would label as "crap".

On that note, if any of the three fail the gaming industry loses something. Nintendo is in it's own little world half the time. To the point that they aren't even really competing with the other two except maybe in sales.
 

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Dragonbums said:
Also, Nintendo hardware may not be the most technologically advanced, but to say they are crap is an insult. Every Nintendo system I have owned thus far all the way back from the N64 still works like it was brand new. That's not really something I would label as "crap".
So according to your logic since the CD-I still works fine then it's not a piece of crap ? who's talking about manufacturing quality ? I thought it was implied that I meant the awful N64 game lineup, I bought this piece of crap because hey ! it was a Nintendo and ended up buying a PSX cause well there was mostly crap on N64 sooo crappy game line up = crappy system imo

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On that note, if any of the three fail the gaming industry loses something.
A matter of tastes I guess, if M$ folded from the console race for me there's no loss, is there any M$ game made exclusive for the x360? no pc port or anything?, I'm asking cause honestly I don't know, however if Nintendo did fold they would gain a lot, having their games in multi platform would be great for them and for us, the fact people buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games which are amazing ( almost always), there's almost nothing else that you can hope to play in a Nintendo home console, however I do think their handheld are worth to keep on, but hey it's just my opinion.
 

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Drauger said:
So according to your logic since the CD-I still works fine then it's not a piece of crap ? who's talking about manufacturing quality ? I thought it was implied that I meant the awful N64 game lineup, I bought this piece of crap because hey ! it was a Nintendo and ended up buying a PSX cause well there was mostly crap on N64 sooo crappy game line up = crappy system imo
Yes. if a CD-I still works today, then it stands to reason that at the very least, the system hardware was made of some quality stuff and wasn't just shat out in three minutes.
The software however was garbage. However it was the best thing to happen to gaming, because now I can have hours of entertainment of Youtube Poop videos.
I just love how your trying to make it seem like what I'm saying was somehow illogical.

You dislike the N64 game library lineup. Fine.
Just as many people thought the N64 had some of the greatest game line ups in game history.

That doesn't make the N64 "crap" it just means that it didn't meet your expectations.
Which is perfectly fine. Different tastes for different people.
 

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why making Xbone at all? just call it quits now, so sega can have a reason to come back... I want "Dream Catch" (dream cast2)
 

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The xbox and a significant portion of the gaming sub-division is just a toy project. Commonly called a pride project. The first xbox lost $7.5B and MS hides the current results in the MS entertainment division so no actual costs/revenues/profits/losses or most things that would let stockholders know WTF is going on is buried and not available to be reviewed nor published.

Since the Xbone is not much different than a cheap PC running a chopped down version of W8 the need for a console as a separate device is ... missing. The possibility would be highest that they make something on the line of the Surface Pro, aka Surface Gamer or such. They would gain greater price reductions through volume discounts with suppliers and could shift parts to the box that has the most need (actual customers). That does make a small case for a Xbone to continue. A very small one admittedly as the Xbone will get long in the tooth very quickly. Think of using a five year old laptop for your gaming needs. Which is what the Xbone will be in five years. At $150 it might have a market, but the Kinect is always going to be forced down the gamer's gullet and cost an extra $100.

Time will tell and I doubt we will have to wait much past five years to know. In five years it will be tough to buy a $500 laptop that won't outperform the xbone.
 

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CrossLOPER said:
ZippyDSMlee said:
Good the sooner we get to a universal gaming hardware environment the better....
Zero competition isn't good for the consumers. At all.
mysecondlife said:
Saviordd1 said:
ZippyDSMlee said:
Good the sooner we get to a universal gaming hardware environment the better....
Yeah! Cause monopolies always work out in the end right guys?
If you see a crappy game, don't buy it. Sounds simple enough.
Dude. The Atari 2600-5200 Era.

99% of games were complete shit. Think DLC is bad? How about paying out the ass for a game you can download to your calculator for free?

If the majority of the games are garbage, people will still buy them. However, it did end with the '83 crash, didn't it? People will take the shortest route to success. If it means churning out several dozen shitty titles just to make a few bucks, people will take that option.
Wrong. Competition stems from the vendors seeking to make a profit thus hardware prices will be low. Since all software vendors are selling through one set of hardware you have more competition on the only thing that matters the games.

Exclusivity and shelling out 3 or 4 times the amount needed to play a single game dose not compute.