This would have been nice at the start of the last generation. Sadly, my "buy hardware from microsoft" quota has been filled via repeated purchases of the same damned console.
Xbox One Designed For Ten-Year, Always-On Lifespan
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Such bullshit! There's a fan in the Xbone does it not? there isn't a single fan in the world that can work 10 years straight without service, and when the fan fails the cpu will fry.
Actually, this is not true. I have had 2 80mm Vantec Stealth fans in use constantly for the last 12 years (they're in a media server and have lasted through 3 upgrades). They still work fine and have been running constantly at full speed with the exception of large power outages and upgrades.ExtraDebit said:
Something tells me it won't be even half as long as that. Who knows what gremlins lurk within the Xbone awaiting the day they can emerge and herald the next RRoD.Vzzdak said:
The title is a bit misleading. I thought it was designed to operate with its always-online DRM for 10 years straight before the servers shut down or the console exploded or fried while they sold us XBOX TWO. Oh well.
I seriously doubt this thing will have an average lifespan of 10 years. All my life I have tried phenominally hard to build a rig that could last for 5 straight years without a single component failure. It usually gets 3.8 before the PSU, memory, motherboard or mouse needs replacement. Oh well, this is just marketing hype meant to spin their horrible track record and make optimists out of sheep.
Also, "cool" and "quiet" rarely happen in one sentence in reality.
The only way an XBOX One will last 10 years and still work is if it STAYS IN THE BOX!
...that, or in cryostatis.
I seriously doubt this thing will have an average lifespan of 10 years. All my life I have tried phenominally hard to build a rig that could last for 5 straight years without a single component failure. It usually gets 3.8 before the PSU, memory, motherboard or mouse needs replacement. Oh well, this is just marketing hype meant to spin their horrible track record and make optimists out of sheep.
Also, "cool" and "quiet" rarely happen in one sentence in reality.
The only way an XBOX One will last 10 years and still work is if it STAYS IN THE BOX!
...that, or in cryostatis.
It's interesting that it's made to stay on like a PC. I guess that's the goal since they want it to be the center piece of your living room entertainment. Using it for TV, movies, music, and games it will need to withstand constant use. But I'm quite skeptical. There are many factors and variables in such a use. Dusty homes, cat hair, etc. Saying it can be on for 10 years is one thing, but it actually working is completely different. Hope we don't hear about either system crashing due to faulty designs.
Good news, if true in any capacity.
They keep barreling ahead with advancements in these consoles and no one seems to want to slow down and make sure they are going to not going to malfunction per-maturely. This with the news that the PS4 will run a lot cooler than the last generations gives me a little hope.
They keep barreling ahead with advancements in these consoles and no one seems to want to slow down and make sure they are going to not going to malfunction per-maturely. This with the news that the PS4 will run a lot cooler than the last generations gives me a little hope.
I'd like to know where this prototype Xbone One that they've been keeping locked away for ten years is. Because when all the 'durable' Xbones start to break right after the warranty expires, there are going to be a LOT of mad people.
Such irony, that people ***** about how a PC will quickly be outdated by the latest model, when consoles don't even last a fraction of a generation. Even my 3DS broke RIGHT before the warranty expired, and my free (but sans-warranty) replacement broke in about the same time.
Such irony, that people ***** about how a PC will quickly be outdated by the latest model, when consoles don't even last a fraction of a generation. Even my 3DS broke RIGHT before the warranty expired, and my free (but sans-warranty) replacement broke in about the same time.
Unlikely. Not that I have proof (or really know what I'm talking about TBH), but I have a feeling that this ten-year 'lifespan' is based on people using it for a CPU-light all-in-one entertainment system that Microsoft is trying to sell it as, rather than people using it purely as a CPU-Intensive gaming console.Vzzdak said:
Too true! Cue everyone who still has a N64 or Atari and is on their forth PS3/X360.Antari said:
Seriously? I turn off most all of my appliances and electronics to save electricity wasted on standby modes (appliances use more electricity per year on standby than on actually doing their job, blah blah blah), and you're telling me that I'm cutting down their lifespan? That's what I get for doing my part to save the planet I suppose...BloodSquirrel said:
Wow, microsoft has designed a whole new hardware that does not wear off within 5 years on average i guess. oh wait, they didnt, this is just another blatant lie.
IF heat change is whats damaging, turning it on and off is the smallest part of this change.
I had stock fans that lasted 7 years, but thats the record for stocks.
This is a myth. While turning on and off does increase tear. as long as your not restarting it 5 times a day its not. the most hit by that are HDDs who have to spin up/down the motors and as while off the head parks itself, repeatedly spin changes may cause it to hit soemthing and this scrach your hdd. as for other components they are much more resilient. and keeping HDD spinnign always on will wear its motor off before 5 years lifespan anyway, and they you get the head hitting all the time.Best of the 3 said:
So then we probably shoudl run all our games on all the time right? because im sure the idle 30C to room temperature 20C is less wear than full load 70C to idle 30C that the computer jumps around all the time while gaming. or maybe we shoudl just remove cooling because that causes rapid loss of heat.Denamic said:
IF heat change is whats damaging, turning it on and off is the smallest part of this change.
except computers and most moving parts.Antari said:
another myth. standby mode uses almost no electricity. you save around 1 dollar [/b]per year[/b] doing this, while significantly reducing the hardware lifespan. ANd your not saving the planet, the need to build new hardware harms it more than electricity on standby mode.Infernal Lawyer said:
Well, a industry grade fan isnt something you often see in standart gaming console is it?Flunk said:
I had stock fans that lasted 7 years, but thats the record for stocks.
Depends on a fan they use and we really dont know yet.Li Mu said:
Like I said, it depends on which appliance and how often you're turning it on. Unless it's something you're constantly starting up and shutting down, you're most likely going to come out ahead turning it off and saving on electricity.Infernal Lawyer said:
EDIT: Also, depending on what "Standby mode" is, it's quite likely that the appliance is, for all intents and purposes, shut down anyway and is experiencing just as much wear and tear going from standby mode to and as it would going from off to on.
So the only time it won't be silent is during gaming sessions...that is, when you're using it as an actual GAME console. *sigh* This just stands as a reminder that MS's next-gen game console was designed with gaming as a side-thought. I just really...REALLY hate that about the XBone.
Misleading title is misleading.
This is good news for those who haven't yet jumped from the good ship Microsoft (not me - I'm far out to sea at this point) I had my original Xbox 360 for 3 years before it RROD'd on me. That was outside the extended warranty period. I was not pleased.
Needless to say I paid much more attention to the nature of the internal components before purchasing a new unit which, by now, must have breached the original's 3 years. The disc tray is still a ***** though.
This is good news for those who haven't yet jumped from the good ship Microsoft (not me - I'm far out to sea at this point) I had my original Xbox 360 for 3 years before it RROD'd on me. That was outside the extended warranty period. I was not pleased.
Needless to say I paid much more attention to the nature of the internal components before purchasing a new unit which, by now, must have breached the original's 3 years. The disc tray is still a ***** though.
A computer's heat level is not going to remain stable through a week of running. CPU heat changes very quickly whenever it actually starts processing things, and unless you've got a *very* strictly controlled climate you're going to be affected by your ambient temperature. Meanwhile, constant spinning can wear out parts. Industrial products that need to be running 24/7 for 20+ years need to be designed such that they can stay cool without any fans, which will eventually wear out.Evil Smurf said:
For reference, hard drives tend to be rated for 300,000 or so spin up/spin downs. That's over eight years starting it up and shutting it down 100 times a day.
Jesus Christ, this nonsense is getting out of hand-RJ 17 said:
That's how electronics work. They need cooling when they're under stress. That's how the current consoles work, it's how PCs work, and how the PS4 is going to work. Unless your hardware is low-powered enough that it can be 100% passively cooled, it's going to need to spin up its fan when under load, and running a video game is going to put more load on it than anything else.
You kinda entirely missed the point of my post. I don't begrudge the fact that it makes noise. I know that all computer-based technology has fans and fans make noises. The fact that it was pointed out as a + to the console that "Ohhhhhhh it's so quiet! Except when you're playing games on it" is what I'm getting at. That means that if you're using your game console to actually play GAMES, they can't really hold the claim of "It's so quiet!" as one of the selling points now can they?BloodSquirrel said: