Xbox One Exec Acknowledges Failure to Communicate

TomWiley

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RJ 17 said:
I'm getting tired of repeating the definition of demo over and over again.
You mean you're getting tired of repeating what you think a demo is. "Demo" doesn't have any official definition you know. I don't know if you were alive during the 90s, (and I'm growing increasingly unsure), but demo has traditionally been a separate campaign or mission meant to showcase some of the essential mechanics - with other words: nothing like 45 minutes of the full game.

RJ 17 said:
"Glorified Demo" isn't misleading in the slightest.
Again, it's a question of definition. You can disagree if you want to, but you can't act as if I'm objectively wrong.

RJ 17 said:
what would YOU call something that's a limited-time trial-run of a game that is meant to encourage you to buy the full game
I would call it a limited-time trial-run of a game. Of course what I'd call it is irrelevant. The real question, and what I've been trying to get at for a while now, is what I think of the value proposition, which still is what I wrote a few posts ago: a perfect social feature which allows you to share an experience with a friend which at the same time does not allow for the system to be abused.

Now tell my why that isn't a great value proposition.
 

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This is far from Microsoft exclusive territory but why is it that so many in this industry come out to make statements trying to respond to a situation end up saying things that are either oblivious to the situation or in resentful and willful defiance of the realities of it?

Why is it simply owning up to making the mistake of trying to tell customers you know what they want and need far better than they possibly can is unfathomable and we get the likes of this, or comments from EA or Activision, Ubisoft or Square Enix and even indie devs/pubs are far from immune that try to shift the blame away from themselves and more often than not onto the consumers instead of just admitting and taking responsibility for the errors they made?

I would have unending respect if one of these entities would just come out and say "Yeah, we have gigantic clanking brass balls and sometimes the sound gets so loud it drowns out any logic and reason that causes us to say/do something stupid. Don't worry, we will fix it"
 

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Valderis said:
Microsoft, I think you need to talk less.

"engineering reality time frame type-thing" What the hell does that even mean?!

Everything you people say and do either pisses us of or confuses us. What you need to do is to observe Sony's statements from and since E3, they have been a whole lot more clear on matters that we actually care about.
I second your confusion. I think he was trying to say this system wasn't going to be implemented for a while anyway? If at all?

My theory was they thought this "share-type-thing" up after the initial outcry just so they could pretend the Xbone was losing something when they eventually did their 180.

Maybe I give M$ too much credit. But I can't fathom how such a big company with so much money and smart people could foul things up so completely. Its not like they just shit their pants, its like they downed an entire bottle of laxative before going on stage knowing exactly what was in the bottle and what it did, but never connected the subsequent public defecation until after the fact.

Yahtzee's weird S and M story makes just as much sense as anything in this whole kerfukle.
 

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Holythirteen said:
Valderis said:
Microsoft, I think you need to talk less.

"engineering reality time frame type-thing" What the hell does that even mean?!

Everything you people say and do either pisses us of or confuses us. What you need to do is to observe Sony's statements from and since E3, they have been a whole lot more clear on matters that we actually care about.
I second your confusion. I think he was trying to say this system wasn't going to be implemented for a while anyway? If at all?

My theory was they thought this "share-type-thing" up after the initial outcry just so they could pretend the Xbone was losing something when they eventually did their 180.

Maybe I give M$ too much credit. But I can't fathom how such a big company with so much money and smart people could foul things up so completely. Its not like they just shit their pants, its like they downed an entire bottle of laxative before going on stage knowing exactly what was in the bottle and what it did, but never connected the subsequent public defecation until after the fact.

Yahtzee's weird S and M story makes just as much sense as anything in this whole kerfukle.
I think Microsoft simply overestimated the intelligence of their consumers. They promised global online sharing, digital used games solution, server-offloading and cloud integration - not realizing that most consumers are too dumb to even see how all that would work, let alone see the advantages of said solutions. Rather, they'd feel confused, scared, angry and they'd turn to the populist, sensationalist "journalism" and Reddit posts to feel in the gaps.

The result, a big angry misinformed mob and, subsequently, a PR disaster.