Xbox One to Get Kinect-Free Version for $399 in June
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circularlogic88 said:
Hate to tell you this dude but criticizing someone for making a passive aggressive post and then posting two passive aggressive comments of your own doesn't make you look any better. Just saying.
OT: Well, it took them long enough. I hope they have some good games coming for E3. I really want Halo 2 anniversary and some goddamn new IP's.
When I meant 360 controller design, I mean how it was shaped and how the button were placed. There is no saving that god-awful d-pad that's for sure. If they had just made a new d-pad then they could have just released that controller really. Heck, the Wii U's pro controller uses the general shape of the Xbox 360 controller, and it feels fine (although I wished Nintendo would have remade the GameCube controller).tehroc said:
Ok...
It's finally happened but then they didn't drop the console price enough. The Kinect 2 was estimated to cost almost as much as the XBO itself.
So now they're going to charge the same price as a 50% more powerful console is charging? They could have dropped it into the $350 range but I guess this will let them profit on each console. Or maybe that price drop will come around soon enough.
It's finally happened but then they didn't drop the console price enough. The Kinect 2 was estimated to cost almost as much as the XBO itself.
So now they're going to charge the same price as a 50% more powerful console is charging? They could have dropped it into the $350 range but I guess this will let them profit on each console. Or maybe that price drop will come around soon enough.
Oh, I wasn't being passive-aggressive. I flat-out called him out on his shitty attitude and bemoaning of other people's opinions and critiques of how they view Microsoft and One. He responed with sarcasm and I pointed out that he still didn't valiate his own opinion with any sort of evidence counter to my initial comment. Passive-aggressive would have been me making vague allusions at how I don't care for people without any meaningful input to a conversation and they probably shouldn't be posting about it without having something more substantiative to back up their post.Saucycarpdog said:
OT: Sunset Overdrive looks promising and E3 is around the corner, so there's definitely more to look forward to this year for those who own Xbox One.
The Kinect voice commands are somewhat useful, but the camera is a pain in the ass if its on. Now it just needs games to be worth buying. With my discovery of Hearthstone, I won't be buying anything soon.
I would've been surprised if this didn't happen. It probably should've happened a lot sooner. However, given that the PlayStation 4 is the same price and still more powerful, I still can't see the new Xbox being worth it unless it goes down to something like $350 or some really good exclusives come out.
Microsoft and affiliated developers, if you know how to make good games, now's the time to deliver.
On a side note, why has the Wii U been failing? Lack of exclusives from Nintendo, piss poor marketing that hasn't convinced people that the Wii U isn't just an upgrade for the Wii, or both?
Microsoft and affiliated developers, if you know how to make good games, now's the time to deliver.
On a side note, why has the Wii U been failing? Lack of exclusives from Nintendo, piss poor marketing that hasn't convinced people that the Wii U isn't just an upgrade for the Wii, or both?
I think the thing that blows my mind is how quickly people seem to forget that Sony did almost the exact same thing, at the start of the last generation. The hypocrisy of it all is that this time, its Microsoft and its always, "too little, too late" or "people will never forget" and garbage like that. Yet, I can remember (probably the exact same crowd, too) at the beginning of last gen singing a completely different tune with Sony. It boggles the mind to see people completely ignoring history and thinking that Microsoft should throw in the towel, because its OVER. Bullshit.
You are most certainly in the minority. The 360 controller is one of the best controllers out there, and the general consensus agrees. The D-pad is a bit of a pain, but they addressed that to some degree with later controllers. The PS3 controllers, on the other hand, are absolute garbage. They are too small and flimsy, and I absolutely despise using them.tehroc said:
I can understand his frustration with the fanboys though, Microsoft do deserve the condemnation they earned themselves but the fanboys try to poo poo anything positive they do, refuse to acknowledge the things that are going right and gleefully caper from forum to forum to proclaim that the Xbone is doomed forever.Shadow-Phoenix said:
They ignore that the Xbox brand is doing incredibly well on software terms for example, the Xbone is selling more games per console than the PS4 and Xbox as a whole is selling more games on both the 360 and the Xbone than Sony are with the PS3, PS4 and the PS Vita with Microsoft claiming 48% of all software sales which is pretty impressive in a market with six other competing devices from two other companies (Sony = PSV, PS3, PS4. Nintendo = 3DS, Wii, Wii U). They ignore that the XBone is selling well in its own right as well, they claim the Xbone is failing when its selling faster than the 360 did. Its not selling as well as the PS4 but its still selling incredibly well, if you set aside the PS4 the Xbone is a major success both in software and hardware sales.
The arguments about it being doomed forever ring hollow too, its not fairing as badly as the PS3 early on in its lifespan. It took Sony a while to sort themselves out but they did and made sure it got good games and a competitive price and by the end of the generation the PS3, in its own right was a success. Microsoft are in the same position but with the announcement of the Kinect free version and the efforts they are making to secure games they have plenty of opportunity to turn it around. The performance issues are trickier to deal with but they might be able to solve that with the roll out and continued development of DirectX 12, DX12 might allow the XBone to catch up in terms of performance as it streamlines software access to resources and will undoubtedly lead to an increase in performance. Whether it will allow it to catch up to the PS4 completely remains to be seen but there will be a performance increase of some degree, the claims of it giving "double" the performance are beyond optimistic though.
Now don't get me wrong the Microsoft fanboys are as annoying as the Sony Ponies and you can often see all kinds of unfounded bitterness aimed at the PS4 from them, like with the way loads of Xbox fanboys have a "I didnt want that game anyway" attitude when the PS4 version of multiplat is confirmed to be running at higher frame rate and and resolution. At the same time you can come across foolishness like a Sony super fan posting "I don't play pixels I play games, I dont care if the PC version plays 1440p @ 60FPS" and then a week or so later you see the same poster "hahaha lololol XBox sucks can't do 1080p like the PS4".
Its just frustrating and sad to see how adults are acting like we did as kids arguing over Sega and Nintendo in the school playground, so I can understand where people are coming from when they perceive it as being "cool" to hate Microsoft when they are making efforts to make the Xbone more appealing. They,
-reversed the DRM
-dropped the price
-are trying to sort out the performance
-might be removing some of the restrictions regarding streaming services
-will be offering a Kinect free version
-making efforts to secure games for the console
Yet all those positives are painted as bad things and back peddling, no Microsoft are not doing it because they are really nice guys and want to help people and they are only doing it to shift more product but at the end of the day the consumer is still benefiting from it.
you monster...circularlogic88 said:Stupid double-posting BS....Here's a puppy.
that's the saddest thing ever <;(
should off left it as a double post if your gonna be that mean >.>
Okay, but this thing is still useless fresh out of the box without being introduced to a net connection to get that update which nullifies those lovely DRM policies that are still built into the current models yes? Then this news still means nothing to me.
This will escalate into a flame war of epic proportions between the console folks.
I've been "inspecting" this as well as the whole Watch Dogs 1080p 60fps article where more than 20000 comments have been posted. It is quite insane and funny to behold really.
With that said and on topic..I do feel bad for those that did buy it day one and now they are getting shafted pretty hard by Microsoft with this news.
I've been "inspecting" this as well as the whole Watch Dogs 1080p 60fps article where more than 20000 comments have been posted. It is quite insane and funny to behold really.
With that said and on topic..I do feel bad for those that did buy it day one and now they are getting shafted pretty hard by Microsoft with this news.
Difference between then and now is PS3 was trying to offer the more premium package at a higher price, where with the Xbox360 you could be the base package for the cheaper price. Start adding in the premium stuff that was included with the PS3, like an HD-DVD drive, a hard drive, and so on, and the prices were much closer. At the time Xbox also had a years head start with the games...but keep in mind to get that head start they released a faulty product with a 30% failure rate.Osaka117 said:
So last gen Sony goofed by releasing a product too expensive and a year late. The difference this time which caught everyone's attention is that MS tried to force a whole shitload of draconian DRM down the consumers throat, and not to mention they were selling the inferior hardware at a higher price.
I never ended up buying either console, I've been a Steam/Wii guy, but in my opinion there's no real comparison between the two.
Puppy: *after reading the article* Let me stop you right there, Microsoft...circularlogic88 said:
OT: Wow... and to think I was joking to myself saying that the Xbox One was like that one "ex" you "used" to date...
Now, to avoid making a "unrelated" joke about [REDACTED]...
I may actually get a One now. Not that I was ever all that against the Kinect in an "it's spying on me!" way but I just didn't see it as any added value at all. It was basically $100 at minimum added to the price of the console for a useless piece of tech I would never use.
Oh, that sounds awesome!Fox12 said:
Tell me, how awesome are Dead Rising 3, Titanfall, Sunset Overdrive, Killer Instinct, Halo, and Forza?
...oh wait.
OT: This is very good news, but as usual, people everywhere (this site especially) are going to be cynical about it and find yet another reason to hate on Microsoft and the Xbone.
Owning one myself, I have to say it's pretty awesome and so is the Kinect, but I definitely understand why some people wouldn't care about it.
Good on you, Microsoft, for expanding the consumer base.