Well played sir, well played.
But you can't really touch them because they got all the monetary justice on their side.
But you can't really touch them because they got all the monetary justice on their side.
I get the concept, but the whole stunt whiffs of arrogance and conceitedness, which immediately makes me think "what a wanker". It kind of undermines the efforts of people who are actually trying to find some justice.Woodsey said:He doesn't seem to be out to make money, he's just chosen a ridiculous sum of money to get attention for the point he's trying to make.Verlander said:Kinda sounds like a dick. Sorry, but I have no time for fools like this. Of course he won't win anything, no one will take this twat seriously.
Which I actually support, because the stupid sleight of hand that companies employ, as well as the hoops they make customers jump through, are a fucking pain in the arse.
I laughed because of your avatar.MrDeckard said:Sounds like something [b/]I[/b] might do...
I can see where you're coming from, but at least make the claim a little less than $500 billion. It's just a laughably absurd amount that won't be taken seriously.The_root_of_all_evil said:That was my first though as well, but wait...Mr.Pandah said:Hahaha. Just another troll out to make money. Typical.
He's not actually doing anything worse than Apple, Microsoft, Sony do every day. Their EULA's are chockful of jargon that are sometimes...playful with their legal ramifications, and even the Miranda warning ("You have the right to remain silent") isn't legally binding unless you understand it fully. (Which is why the Police have to be sure that you've heard it)
Now this guy may, and probably is, way out on the con; but in doing so, he may inadvertently put restrictions in motion that stop Microsoft from, say, banning you from Xbox from a false positive from their cheating system.
Because at the moment, you have no recompense to that apart from a call to PR.
Obviously, major companies need a certain leeway in defining their terms and conditions - and obviously legal precedents override legal loopholes, but actually having court cases that the lawyers can bring up to say "Hold on a tic, you said in blah versus blah that this couldn't happen." may yet be a gain for the legitimate consumer.
Sure, but he isn't trying to be any greater a dick than MS or any other corporation that pulls this same exact BS on their consumers. That's like saying a rape victim is a dick if she tries raping her attacker right back. Most gamers are willing to bend over and take whatever crap the corporations are willing to give, I'm glad there's one who figured out how to give it right back. I'm sure he wont get what he's asking for but I hope he wins something.Verlander said:Kinda sounds like a dick. Sorry, but I have no time for fools like this. Of course he won't win anything, no one will take this twat seriously.
What a lot of people seem to be missing here. Is that he purposefully asked for a ridiculous amount fully expecting to be struck down. That was the point. Just asking for 5k, no news outlet would have batted an eye. He HAD to ask for a crazy number, it wouldn't have the same impact if he had used a reasonable number. The entire point of this "suit" is to draw attention to how ridiculous the whole end user agreement system is at the moment. He in no way expects to win, winning isn't the point. It is merely an eye-opener. The obscene amount is simply to draw attention to how crazy the entire situation is. The fact that this is tactics used by real companies in the real world. I for one find it funny to come up with this whole scheme. He fully expects this to get some media attention and be thrown out before making it anywhere. It's all about drawing attention to the issue.Doclector said:Yeah, it's just insane to claim you can win a court case like that, like it's a gorram duel challenge or something.
If this actually works, it'll be the customers who suffer. He could have made a point with way less money.
More then the entire worth of the company and it's founder...GonzoGamer said:And besides, what's $500Bil to MS?
Actually there is every need to be a dick about it. And the more of a dick he is the more the general public gains awareness of exactly how much they are screwed by the setup of the whole civil legal system.Andy Chalk said:Making a point is fine, but there's no need to be a dick about it.
This is why we need an Anti-Stupidity Agency to make it fair when it should be.The_root_of_all_evil said:That was my first though as well, but wait...Mr.Pandah said:Hahaha. Just another troll out to make money. Typical.
He's not actually doing anything worse than Apple, Microsoft, Sony do every day. Their EULA's are chockful of jargon that are sometimes...playful with their legal ramifications, and even the Miranda warning ("You have the right to remain silent") isn't legally binding unless you understand it fully. (Which is why the Police have to be sure that you've heard it)
Now this guy may, and probably is, way out on the con; but in doing so, he may inadvertently put restrictions in motion that stop Microsoft from, say, banning you from Xbox from a false positive from their cheating system.
Because at the moment, you have no recompense to that apart from a call to PR.
Obviously, major companies need a certain leeway in defining their terms and conditions - and obviously legal precedents override legal loopholes, but actually having court cases that the lawyers can bring up to say "Hold on a tic, you said in blah versus blah that this couldn't happen." may yet be a gain for the legitimate consumer.
It was an amendment to my previous post. I in no way take the suit seriously.. see my previous post. It just furthers the point that he in no way expects to win, let alone 500B when that is CLEARLY not a feasible number. ^Arontala said:I think that you may be taking that joke just a little too seriously.Mouse_Crouse said:For reference... Microsoft's TOTAL assets. (If everything was liquidized, according to data on Wikipedia) is something like $86 Billion.
not only would this be a WIN tactic, it would exactly match what everyone expects from Microsoft and would give this retard the foot up the ass he needs oh so badly.Jamash said:I hope Microsoft pay him the $500 Billion, but in Microsoft Points.
It would be so funny if they deposited 4 Quadrillion Microsoft Points, that's 40000000000000 non transferable Microsoft Points, into his account, then terminated his account as he requested.
John the Gamer said:I'm not sure if he's a genius, mad or both/quote]
same here.
well, lets just watch intently and hope he doesnt use the 500 billion to build a doomsday device.
that too. if he does win, we're going to have to deal with this.Doclector said:Yeah, it's just insane to claim you can win a court case like that, like it's a gorram duel challenge or something.ultimateownage said:This guy is going to get crushed, if it even makes it that far.
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Also, his attempt at this is completely useless. In the laws of court he cannot just default him to winning like that, and if anything Microsoft are liable to sue back.
If this actually works, it'll be the customers who suffer. He could have made a point with way less money.
I'm all for making a point to corporations, but I take a leaf from the hypocratic oath for these kind of things; "Above all, do no harm." Not to innocents at least, and definately not the people you're trying to make a point to.
though he gave no time limit on the first part, so i think technically he would lose if they cancelled his service... microsoft should just do that.
It makes me lawl that this guy seems to know what he's doing... But is going about it in possibly the worst possible way xDMr.Pandah said:Hahaha. Just another troll out to make money. Typical.