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dosp5

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I do remember that now certain achievements net you avatar awards. In my opinion this is better, because with points you can't tell if someone bossed through a game or got all of the baby's first achievements for dozens of titles. You can tell that guy is pretty good at Halo if he has Kat's helmet on.(Go through a level of campaign without dying once)
 

Kurbz

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DustyDrB said:
Rusty pumpkin said:
Seems like a fine idea. I know when I got my first cheevo I thought "cool! What do I do with gamerscore?"
I used to think that. I was all excited and went to the Live Marketplace to try to buy stuff with my accumulated Gamerscore. Then I learned it's just a meaningless number that does nothing.
Hey. They have a purpose: to show who has a bigger d***.
/joke

I wouldn't mind getting rid of them. They have no purpose. Keep achievements because its fun to try and kill 30 tickers with melee on GoW2.
 

Subwayeatn

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Seems like a great idea, if you couldn't go to gamestop, get a used game, beat said game in a week and get some achievements, return it for full price, and keep the gamerscore.
 

higgs20

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it could work if gamerscore earned in a specific game allowed you to buy small bits of dlc (weapons, alternate outfits etc.) or avatar awards for that game. kind of how Uplay does but a bit more comprehensive.
 

player3141

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It sounds great for the consumer, but not for Microsoft. If they don't charge you money for downloads, how else are they going to afford to make the new innovative features for windows 8.
 

StBishop

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pretentiousname01 said:
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pretentiousname01 said:
I already work for my money

I don't want to have to start sifting through shitty games to make money to buy dlc.

The one idea of merit out of it was avatar awards. I wouldn't mind seeing a gs threshold for items. However they would be items specifically made for it. Like 10,000 gs get a hat, 15000 get a shirt etc.
This already happens to an extent. Avatar awards.
Meed certain requirements in game = free avatar items.
truth, however much to my dismay they don't happen often enough :(
Indeed. I've agonised over this many times with my girlfriend. We both love cool useless shit that is earned rather than bought.
 

Xman490

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Maybe there could be some Live clubs for people with at least 1000, 5000, or 10000 gamerscore. The clubs could offer reduced prices on downloads, and people who are racking them up are likely to buy more games, even if they're CoD ripoffs.
 

Irriduccibilli

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Microsoft could implement a system that everytime you earned 1.000 or 2.000 or any other number, you would get 1.000 MS points, but there should also be a possibility to purchase Microsoft Points as you do now
 

GeorgW

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No way. Just no.
I know I'd just borrow like 50 games and get the easiest 'cheevos I could, and then be done for all my gaming need. It's completely unfair and uneconomic. Just no.
 

Jewrean

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As a gamer I would love this idea. But if I were to put my Business Owner hat on I would never implement it. Even if I was feeling generous and I wanted people to love my console there would be too many achievement whores and too many people renting 'easy achievement' games. When you are in control of an economic system you can't allow it to fluctuate based on the people's tastes alone. The system you suggest basically hands them the lock and key.
 

Magicman10893

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This idea would suck. I don't want to have to grind through several games just to get the gamerscore to buy DLC for one game! At the current rate, you couldn't afford the map pack for Black Ops even if you got all 1000 gamerscore. To buy all the map packs for Halo 3 you would need to get all 1000 gamerscore in at least 3 games, plus a few achievements in another game. Not to mention Rock Band games. If you only play Rock Band you could only get like 6 or 7 songs if you could manage to get all the gamerscore. I think in the end it would cost you more buying all the other games it takes to get the DLC for 1 game than it takes buying a MS points card for $20.


EDIT: I just read the idea a couple post above mine and I like that idea. Microsoft could set up a milestone system and every time you hit a certain amount of gamerscore you could get some free points. Like getting 20,000GS could get you a free 400MS and then getting 40,000 you could get a free 800MS and so on.
 

Rusty pumpkin

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Cliff_m85 said:
Rusty pumpkin said:
Seems like a fine idea. I know when I got my first cheevo I thought "cool! What do I do with gamerscore?"
Fine idea for you. Economically horrible. What you want is for a person to, theoretically, finish a game fast. Why? So they buy a new game. Doing the above would have people playing their games for much longer to obtain points. Add that they could then download games that earn them more points. It'd end up costing the company more than allowing them to earn off of it.
I'm not an economist, I can't pretend to know what every impact is. If they could use gamerscore for something though, right now it's a arbitrary rating that at most tells people I spend too much time playing games.
 

SageRuffin

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StBishop said:
SageRuffin said:
Strange... but it could work.

Although you have to keep in mind how the world works today. It's a far cry that anyone would actually risk that in this day and age.
No it couldn't.

That's like saying. What if I could use the numbers on my odometer to pay for my fuel. Where's the money coming from for the guy selling the fuel? It's ridiculous. Money must change hands for there to be a sale. Sure the publishers of DLC could get paid out in cash for the amount of Gamerscore they made, but then Microsoft is paying for you to get DLC for free.
The gas analogy doesn't work, and I'll tell you why: you forget, the person has to buy the game in order to reap the benefits of the achievements (and gamerscore by extension) that come with it. Now, that could be bypassed by folks who rent games or borrow them from friends, but you'd be hard-pressed to underestimate the number of people who like their games new.

I'm not saying I agree with the original stance one way or the other, just merely adding a voice to the discussion. As such, I take my leave. Good day, sir/madam.
 

CardinalPiggles

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NinjaDeathSlap said:
this will become a problem because people can glitch/ alter their gamerscore many different ways. so before this works MS would have to severely clamp down on these fiends.

MS's other concern would be they are very happy with the MS points system as it makes you end up buying more points than you need for whatever your buying (most of the time), and some people are stupid enough to spend those points on unnecessary purchases simply because they are there. so MS would lose out on not only normal sales but possibly lose out on possible sales too.

good idea though, i like the sound of this, but even if this is officially presented to MS, i would not be very hopeful.

also...


what the fuck, i cant read this??? it doesnt even exist on my keyboard...
 

northeast rower

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Well the problem with that is that MS and the third-party companies they are paying to develop games would just not get paid...
 

CardinalPiggles

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CrazyJuan77 said:
/OPINION.
changed that for you...

but why do you think GS should be eliminated entirely?

personally i like it because it means i am able to squeeze a little more enjoyment out of a game before i move on.
 

Sad Face

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It seems like a great idea, though I would only extend it to memberships and not games, developers should be paid.

But the problem is that it would prevent Microsoft from cleaning our pockets to the extent they prefer...why would they do this when we still have pennies in the jar on our nightstands?
 

Giantpanda602

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NinjaDeathSlap said:
- Despite not making money through MS points anymore I think it would actually earn a bigger profit for Microsoft and the entire industry. The fairer system would persuade more gamers to buy Xbox's which helps Microsoft, and the idea of using Gamerscore earned from achievements to buy DLC will encourage gamers to buy more Xbox games to get their Gamerscore. This not only helps Microsoft, but the Dev's, Publishers, and Game Retailers too.
What about indie/smaller devs? You would see them all abandon the Xbox and move to the PS3/PC.