XCOM: Not compatible with Win XP.

[Vegetunks9000]

If you want to be able to play games on a decade old OS, you're gonna have a bad time.

See ya pizza'd when you should have french fried.

 

[tippy2k2]

Hell, throw out the XP issue and could a five year old computer even run XCOM?

My 7 year old computer ran Crysis, so I'm going to go with yes. Easily.

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Seriously? That's pretty impressive. Now again, I'm not a PC gamer so excuse my ignorance here:

From what I heard from the interweb, Crysis was supposedly the benchmark of PC gaming when it came out (was your computer 7 years old at the time or is it seven now? If it's seven now, that's not as impressive since Crysis is 5 years old).

Anyway, my question is: How much does it cost for you to keep that thing updated enough to run modern games? It just seems like at some point, it would be much cheaper for you to just buy a new rig (which would come with the new Windows) than it would be to sink money into the old system.

 

[Pakkie]

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Win 7 actually runs fine (although rather slow) on 512 MB's of RAM. So does Windows 8 since it uses even fewer RAM. I just spent the last 3 weeks at work (I'm an IT-consultant) putting Windows 7 on old laptops, many of which only have 512 megs of RAM.

And that is Win 7 Ultimate. Several people have tried out the Starter Edition of Windows 7 on machines with 256 megs of RAM (this requires a bit of thinkering since Windows 7 refuses to install on machines that lowend without some fiddling), even stating they are seeing better performance than when using XP. Ultimate has also been run on machines with 256 megs, although i doubt the performance is that great. I haven't tried it though, so i wouldn't know )

Ahh, I wrote that wrong I meant to say it will run on 512mb xD, I have an old 512mb laptop running ultimate behind me now, haven't tried starter but I could see it working on 256mb of ram.

 

[Andrew_C]

Yet still be able to afford Xcom.....

So, maybe he's been saving since they announced it?

It's an amazing concept. What you do, is you don't spend all your money every month, but you set a bit aside so you can buy something expensive you really want later. It may be illegal in the States though, because it's socialist and anti-consumerist.

Big words for such for such a non-point.

So he is saving since the announcement, couldn't have applied the same concept to the OS?
Especially since Win XP mainstream support stopped 3 years ago and extended support will end 2014.

So it's OK to condescend to XP users but not to the condescenders?

By the way, I totally agree that he should just bite the bullet, miss a few games and save up to buy Win 7 instead, because on 08/04/2014 he's going to be up shit creek without a paddle

I'd also love to know why he just can't buy an OEM copy of Windows 7

 

[TelHybrid]

...wow. People still use XP?

 

[Jandau]

Yet you seem to have the 45$ (assuming digital copy) to buy Xcom if it could run on XP. Sorry not buying the "I cant afford it". You just dont want to pay it.

Besides you seem to be forgetting there is more than just "will it run it" problems. XP will be able to use 4gb of ram. If you are running service pack 3 about 2 of those will be used on the OS. 2gb of ram is border "Being in the way of making the game run well".

I've got a gaming budget of around $30-40 per month (on average). Some of the money for XCOM might come from a friend (let's say $10) who'll be playing the game on my account once I'm done with it. So yeah, I can afford a game. But it would require me to suspend all gaming purchases for at least 5 months to buy W7, then save up for a month or two to buy the game itself. There are other games I'd like to play, I'd rather play them.

You argument about my system specs is kinda pointless and shows that you're just looking for any excuse to be a dick. I can run Skyrim and Borderlands 2 on mid settings with a smooth framerate, which looks roughly as good as on the console. I sincerely doubt XCOM would offer a greater hardware challenge than those games...

No it is your lack of knowledge that jumps to conclusions.

The Tekkit Pack for Minecraft can have a greater demand on your memory than Skyrim. Again you need to understand your medium before start throwing out examples. If your only option is "It needs to run Skyrim and Borderlands 2" then you shouldn't be bothered when those limitations are biting you in the ass.

My examples were meant to illustrate that my computer can run current AAA games regardless of whatever limitations you care to bring up. Look, you seem to be arguing for the sake of arguing at this point, and it's not something I'm particularly interested in doing.

The fact of the matter is that I will be passing up on XCOM due to a lack of XP compatibility (unless a compatibility patch/mod is released somewhere) and I'm hardly the only one. I do not feel that a single game is enough to justify what is for me a major expenditure and therefore will not be upgrading to W7 any time soon.

But sure, go ahead and argue about moot points, straw men and whatever else you care to drag into this...

 

[Saviordd1]

Who...cares?

Seriously, just get Windows 7

Or just not get XCOM, smart move on limiting the market for a game that has limited appeal already. I do agree that no one cares, now if it was a game that people cared about then people would actually complain.

You don't claim that websites not supporting extremely old versions of flash is "Limiting the market" why? It's outdated.

XP IS OUTDATED. When will everyone get that and move on, yes, vista was shit, 7 wasn't; XP is old and out of date; please stop complaining when games don't support it.

 

[Saviordd1]

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Heres a an argument for you.

Why are you so god damn behind? Literally Windows 7 IS better than XP so you can't use the "vista excuse" anymore that upgrading would be detrimental.

Xcom isn't the first, and it sure as hell won't be the last game that wont support XP, it's an out dated OS, just freaking upgrade already.

 

[ascorbius]

How many people here are looking forward to windows 8? and having the "Get with the times Man!" comment when a similar thing happens...? Just sayin'

 

[Sangreal Gothcraft]

what..Windows xp not supported?!? Oh noesssss. But seriously Windows 7 is so much better...

 

[Ralen-Sharr]

I noticed a significant increase in overall performance when I upgraded to 7.

You can almost be dead sure once the new console generation hits, damn near everything will be DX 10/11 and XP will not run the majority of new games.

At some point you are going to HAVE to upgrade. Either hardware driver compatibility or just an outright lack of support for DX9 will force you to do it or just not buy games.

Do yourself a favor, find a way to scrape together some extra money and get windows 7.

 

[Atmos Duality]

As much as I want to feel for the penny pinchers out there...
Seriously. Just fucking upgrade your OS. Make sure you have at least 4GB of RAM, save up buy a Windows 7 key/license (assuming we don't have more unified/stable versions of Linux for gaming by then).

At least for the OS, you will set yourself up for PC gaming for the next 6 years, minimum. (probably longer)

I ran fucking VISTA from 2007 until this year between the computers I've built and bought, and I actually didn't encounter the trainwreck everyone groaned about after mid-2008.

I'm running Windows 7 right now, and it works fine for gaming.

 

[Cannibal Johnson]

Well, shit. I don't have the money for Win7 so I guess get to eat shit sandwiches.

 

[shrekfan246]

XP was released in October 2001.


What do you want them to do?

Bam. Right here.

What, are people getting angry that Skyrim wasn't released for the PS2?

XP is so outdated now that it's hilarious there are still people using it. Do new computers even have it as an option to be shipped with anymore? Seriously, Windows 7 is pretty damn solid and has compatibility with practically everything XP did. XP limits the version of DirectX you can use and the amount of RAM you can utilize (because let's be honest here, the 64-bit version of XP is absolute crap) and after a quick Wiki search, it limits the number of processors your computer can utilize too. Why the hell would you want to hamstring your hardware like that if you're a serious PC gamer?

 

[ResonanceSD]

How many people here are looking forward to windows 8? and having the "Get with the times Man!" comment when a similar thing happens...? Just sayin'

Win 8 is the Vista Cycle. Win 9 is the XP Cycle. Think of it that way. You can safely jump from XP -->7-->9? without worries. Going from ME--> vista --> Win X will just make you cry.


Oh, and no one is forcing the Windows 8 upgrade on anyone here. The topic is Win XP

 

[Twilight_guy]

What a decade old OS won't run your game and you're forced to upgrade? THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED OR HAD A SIMILAR SITUATION BEFORE IN THE HISTORY OF FOREVER AND I AM DISAPPOINT!

If you're so concerned about your OS being a bloated mess why are you using Windows at all? Get Linux, get a stripped down bare bones distribution. That'd be orders of magnitude more efficient then any version of windows. I'm guessing its because you want to play games and if you want to play games, you're going to have to deal with this. Support for XP won't last forever.

 

[Zipa]

To the people who ask "Why don't you upgrade" with the same condescension of suggesting people might want to start wiping their arses with toilet paper instead of dry leaves, the cheapest I can get the most basic W7 Home edition in my country is around $180, with the Professional and Ultimate editions going above $200 and as high as $400-500. Now, to you this might seem like a small amount. To me it isn't. I'm using a 5-year old PC and my gaming budget is VERY tight. I buy all my games discounted, I trade with my friends, we share Steam accounts, and even then it's not much fun. For the amount of money that some of the more advanced versions of Windows cost I could almost build a solid PC...

Now, I understand that people might find it absurd that someone is complaining about such an old system not being supported, but please don't be douchebags to those of us who might not be thrilled at the idea of dropping down roughly $200 to get more or less the same functionality we have on the XP.

Yet still be able to afford Xcom.....

Yes. I can wait for it to be on sale and maybe share the cost with a few friends. I'll probably end up paying $20-30, depending on how good a sale I can find and how many people pitch in. Buying W7 Professional would wipe out my gaming funds for 5-6 months. I was looking forward to XCOM and I'd love to play it, but I'm not up for paying several hundred dollars for it.

You could take another route, Windows 8. MS are doing new copies of it dirt cheap for a limited time when its released for people using older operating systems, such as XP and 7. Its a hell of a lot cheaper than buying a copy of 7. I think its like £25. Not sure what currency you use (Aus dollar or USD) but its still a crapload cheaper.
The downside though is that W8 doesn't give you the ability to swap to the XP UI and layout unlike 7 and if you want a start button and menu you will likely have to do some tinkering.

Oh and FYI people XP is still available , mostly for businesses because a lot of companies like the one I work for have older computer systems that would cost millions of pounds to upgrade them to be able to handle anything more. Our PCs at work have to have 7 removed from them and have XP added. If they all ran on 7 the stress on the Lanstream hardware we still use would be too much.

 

[shrekfan246]

It's coming out on the same day as Dishonored (another game I'm looking forward to), which will happily run on XP.

Actually... it requires Vista/7, XP support won't be provided on release. And just looking at the system requirements, the recommended minimum specs are 4 GB of RAM (XP can only use a maximum of 4 GB) and a DirectX 11 Graphics Card (XP can only use DirectX 9).

Also, where do you live that Windows 7 would cost you $180? Around here in the states, it's only around $80-100, even for Professional.

 

[MorphingDragon]

Just update to Windows 8 when it comes out.

Just remember to buy and install Start8 as well.

 

[Xan Krieger]

I also use XP and I'm saddened that Company of Heroes 2 won't run on it. Hope they plan to make that compatible with XP. I do plan to get windows 7, it'll just probably be in a year or two.