You Can Finish The New Thief Without Killing Anyone
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To give you a recap; through stealth you can maxout the abilities.MercurySteam said:
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Ah I see, they are appealing to the mainstream crowd mostly via the mechanics of the game...We all know that scaling is a cheap and ineffective way of altering difficulty whereas designing difficulty is what makes a game difficult.
Yeah um...still not convinced really. If killing remains the dominant strategy, that's still a design flaw in my book (although i'll wait and see the actual game)
But the fact that they're talking about it like it's an OPTION while it was a core feature in the past games is kinda worrying. This is not an assassin/press X to silent takedown game. Engaging people should be the least wanted approach.
But the fact that they're talking about it like it's an OPTION while it was a core feature in the past games is kinda worrying. This is not an assassin/press X to silent takedown game. Engaging people should be the least wanted approach.
Agreed, in the original thief games difficulty was all about extra objectives and restrictions. In fact i always played the thief games on max difficulty simply because each mission had more content that way. Scaling just smacks of a quick fix solution.
My first reaction upon seeing it was "...and?"
They're removing most of the magic and aesthetics of the original games (Yes a reboot, I know) and treating this like 'Assassin's Creed but not", it worries me a little. At this point it's a hell no, but I'll wait for more info.
They're removing most of the magic and aesthetics of the original games (Yes a reboot, I know) and treating this like 'Assassin's Creed but not", it worries me a little. At this point it's a hell no, but I'll wait for more info.
Exactly. The developers need to remember that Thief is a stealth game, not a Deus Ex style Choose-Your-Play-Type stealth/action game. The thing that made Thief special was that you had the power to get yourself out of crappy situations with maybe a single guard or two, but it was at its core a stealth game.Busard said:
And let me just say they better not have a pre-done take-down animation like Deus Ex and Dishonored had.
Lastly, as an insanely worried but hopeful fan, let me offer a nit-pick.
It's good that you can go through without killing anyone, though, for a Thief game, that should be a given. However, the question that really needs to be answered is, Can you get through the game without ALERTING anyone? My favorite thing to do in Thief 1 & 2 was to try and shadow through as many levels as I could, feeling like the ultimate Thief when no one even knew I was ever there. THAT is what I truly want to know.
I get it but in HR if you're not seen (regardless if you take out guards or not), the game classifies you as stealthy.Quellist said:
being able to kill no one should be a given in a thief game, and mentioning this does no favours for the existing thief fanbase.. This news and Garrett's new look is really really starting to send alarm bells off in my head unfortunately.
I see this a different way, to make it difficult but still possible (original thief with extra loot on high difficulty) the levels will have to be designed well and interesting. Scalability will probably be on amount guards / field of view and distance of sight / noise level. This way the game can be made easier for casuals or newbies without compromising on level design.Quellist said:
Basically they can still make Thief as good as the original, but be able to tone it down for newbies. I don't see a problem with this.
GOOD!I'm glad they're not trying to goof this up. If you HAD to kill anyone in a Thief game it wouldn't be Thief.
So, they're completely rebooting the series rather than following from the ending of the last one...changing the artistic design...and making a setting that pretty much apes Dishonored, which while itself was a fun game to play, was a game clearly following in the original Thief trilogy's footsteps.
Oh dear God. I'm fast losing hope for this game. Now, granted a plague isn't a bad plot device to use, and since Garret's faced off against both major religious factions in the original trilogy, focusing on the ruling body of the City next (which the description of the game on the website seemed to suggest would happen) is a logical next step. But doing all this relatively soon after the release of a game that's already got a plot about a sneaky protagonist fighting against a fascist despot's regime during a plague AND completely changing the aesthetics so they closely mirror said game...this smacks of a money grab by trying to do a double-whammy of both ripping off a recent, popular game -and- using a popular franchise's name to try and create guaranteed sales.
Man, as they get further along in the development, they better come out with some seriously impressive gameplay trailers (that's actual gameplay, not just pre-rendered cinematics).
Oh dear God. I'm fast losing hope for this game. Now, granted a plague isn't a bad plot device to use, and since Garret's faced off against both major religious factions in the original trilogy, focusing on the ruling body of the City next (which the description of the game on the website seemed to suggest would happen) is a logical next step. But doing all this relatively soon after the release of a game that's already got a plot about a sneaky protagonist fighting against a fascist despot's regime during a plague AND completely changing the aesthetics so they closely mirror said game...this smacks of a money grab by trying to do a double-whammy of both ripping off a recent, popular game -and- using a popular franchise's name to try and create guaranteed sales.
Man, as they get further along in the development, they better come out with some seriously impressive gameplay trailers (that's actual gameplay, not just pre-rendered cinematics).
A pacifist run possible in a game that is called Thief rather than Killer ?
Hold the presses, this is news of unseen magnitude!
Hold the presses, this is news of unseen magnitude!
