Abedeus said:
Avistew said:
Abedeus said:
The second one is either a moron, hypocrite or troll.
Devout Christian... that is into SM? No, sorry, Christianity doesn't approve of self-mutilation or harming self. Either one or another.
You gotta be kidding me. Christianity is all about punishing yourself for stuff you've done or failed to do, renouncing things you like out of love for God and resisting doing things you want to do because you're told not to. How is any of that incompatible with S&M?
Self-mutilation is equal to the commandment telling you about not taking lives. It's not a mortal sin, but it's a light sin nonetheless. Just like smoking, excessive drinking and drugs - you are not killing yourself per se, but you are hastening your death by doing so.
That's how priests explain when they smoke - they know it's an addiction, but not only it's out of their control, so it's not a sin, they "want to be closer to God faster". He was joking of course, but it's still a sin if you are doing it willfully and you accepted it.
Christianity is about REPENTING, not punishing. It would be WAY too easy to do something wrong and then beat yourself up with a silly straw. Nowhere says anything about having self-strangulations.
You can do it. But you have to admit it's your weakness, and fight it. You can't say "oh, it's an addiction, but I'm okay with it so I'm an okay Christian too". Then you are not really Christian.
I should just come out, I guess, as the Gimp Mask Gamer.
I am not a moron, hypocrite, nor was I trolling (I'm not saying that I don't troll on occasion, but this was not one of them).
This unusual sexual fetish is not something I chose. I didn't wake up one day and say "Hey, I want to be sexually deviant, and BDSM seems like a happening scene!" I wasn't seduced by the sexy black leather, although I won't say that it isn't sexy. As I reached adulthood, I found that I enjoyed the thought of having a woman strap me to a rack and hook me to electric cables. I'm not Catholic, so I'm allowed to have occasional sexual thoughts and masturbate, and when I did, I found BDSM scenarios most effective and pleasurable. I didn't choose the fetish, it was forced upon me.
It's not something that will just go away, either. I've openly acknowledged this fetish for years, but I haven't had the opportunity to visit a professionally-run dungeon yet. I'm still a virgin, with very little experience overall. Before I accepted it, I denied it. With all my might. Every aspect. And I still have it.
On the other hand, I chose to be a Christian, and it's a choice I live by. I don't fetishize lasting harm, and I stick to all the Prodestant versions of God's Laws. I have done extensive research on all types of self harm, and I found even the anti-suicide arguments shoddily formed, relying heavily on liberal interpretation of the "thou shalt not murder" clause. Never have I seen anything in the Bible against the BDSM lifestyle, in Old or New Testament. None of the arguments I have heard have been at all convincing, least of all yours. The anti-gay arguments hold more water--at least there are actual Bible verses that apply there--and those are clearly debatable. Sadism is a little bit harder to justify--the Bible teaches that we should not harm our neighbors--but it's not harm if we're enjoying ourselves, is it? And if things get too dangerous, safewords are an integral part of the lifestyle, so it can be stopped, yes?
Crazy, I may be. But I will state, proudly and for the record, that there exists a Christian electrosex fetishist who is comfortable with every part of himself.
Although I guess I should start by focusing on one and eventually introducing my partner to the other. Thanks, Escapist, and thanks, Love FAQ.