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I see no defense for what is REALLY the worst feature of gaming: random encounters in RPGs. That is because there is no defense for random battles and every single game with this feature needs to be updated with this gameplay element removed. It doesn't matter what game: Final Fantasy I-X, Pokemon, Golden Sun, it doesn't matter. It needs to go. Immediately. Remove this sad awful chapter from history FOREVER. BURN IT WITH FIRE!
I understand. I mostly said it as a joke than anything else.Susan Arendt said:
Though for a more serious suggestion, you did point out the PC vs Console waring, but you could have touched on the subject of console exclusive titles and how that gets people worked up with console wars, and while it is annoying, it does help in keeping up the competition between companies. And as we all know, when there is competition between two companies, the public wins, because they constantly try to lower prices or come up with new features that makes it even sweeter to be a gamer in this day and age.
I think most of these are serious and well thought out. The DRM one is clearly tongue-in-cheek, but I think the Project $10 one was meant to be serious. I can't really tell for certain though. Going on the assumption that it is serious, however, we should not love this initiative.
Consider the scenario where Alice is a person who buys the new Madden game every year and sells the old one so someone else can pick it up on the cheap. Normally, it goes like this:
1. Alice sells the old game to Gamestop (insert used game store of choice here).
2. Gamestop sells said game to Bob for more than they gave Alice for it, thus netting a profit.
3. Bob plays his used game just fine, with no strings attached.
Now here's what happens under the new scenario:
1. Alice sells the old game to Wolfman and Dracula's Used Game Emporium.
2. Wolfman and Dracula's Used Game Emporium sells said game to Bob for more than they gave Alice for it.
3. Bob has to plunk down another $10 to EA in addition to what he gave W&D's in order to fully use his game.
The net result is that EA got $10 that wasn't in the original equation. But where did this $10 come from?
Bob? No sir. Bob (hopefully) realized that it will cost him an extra $10 to get the full use out of the game when he bought it. As such, he thinks the used game should be $10 less to compensate. Fair enough.
Wolfman & Dracula? Are you kidding? If you think normal businesses are a pain to deal with, try dealing with monsters and the undead! No, because Bob is only willing to buy the game if it's $10 cheaper, they'll just give Alice $10 less for her trade in. Their profit margin stays exactly the same.
But if Bob spent the same amount of money, and W&D made the same amount, then that means that extra $10 that EA has which they didn't have before must have come from Alice! Which is precisely correct, because she got $10 less for her trade in. Alice now has $10 less than she did at the end of the first scenario. The whole thing had no effect on the used game business or deterring used game buyers. It just screwed the very customer EA wants to keep out of another $10.
The lesson here is never buy games from monsters and the undead! Wait...
Consider the scenario where Alice is a person who buys the new Madden game every year and sells the old one so someone else can pick it up on the cheap. Normally, it goes like this:
1. Alice sells the old game to Gamestop (insert used game store of choice here).
2. Gamestop sells said game to Bob for more than they gave Alice for it, thus netting a profit.
3. Bob plays his used game just fine, with no strings attached.
Now here's what happens under the new scenario:
1. Alice sells the old game to Wolfman and Dracula's Used Game Emporium.
2. Wolfman and Dracula's Used Game Emporium sells said game to Bob for more than they gave Alice for it.
3. Bob has to plunk down another $10 to EA in addition to what he gave W&D's in order to fully use his game.
The net result is that EA got $10 that wasn't in the original equation. But where did this $10 come from?
Bob? No sir. Bob (hopefully) realized that it will cost him an extra $10 to get the full use out of the game when he bought it. As such, he thinks the used game should be $10 less to compensate. Fair enough.
Wolfman & Dracula? Are you kidding? If you think normal businesses are a pain to deal with, try dealing with monsters and the undead! No, because Bob is only willing to buy the game if it's $10 cheaper, they'll just give Alice $10 less for her trade in. Their profit margin stays exactly the same.
But if Bob spent the same amount of money, and W&D made the same amount, then that means that extra $10 that EA has which they didn't have before must have come from Alice! Which is precisely correct, because she got $10 less for her trade in. Alice now has $10 less than she did at the end of the first scenario. The whole thing had no effect on the used game business or deterring used game buyers. It just screwed the very customer EA wants to keep out of another $10.
The lesson here is never buy games from monsters and the undead! Wait...
Oooo, console exclusives, that would've been a good one to do. We'll save that for next time.Hubilub said:
I opened the article with rage in my heart, ready to lay waste to any pro-DRM arguments I might have found.
Then I laughed.
Well played.
Then I laughed.
Well played.
DRM- the only parts of it that really irk me are limited installs and Ubisoft's..."thing."
Project 10 Dollar- if it helps rightfully put the money in the hands of the people that did the labor, then yes, I agree with it.
Cosplay- meh. I don't hate it, but I would never do it.
PC vs. Console Debates- you must like both. That's an order!
QTEs- I actually like QTEs as long as failing one doesn't result in instant death.
Project 10 Dollar- if it helps rightfully put the money in the hands of the people that did the labor, then yes, I agree with it.
Cosplay- meh. I don't hate it, but I would never do it.
PC vs. Console Debates- you must like both. That's an order!
QTEs- I actually like QTEs as long as failing one doesn't result in instant death.
Why, I already love cosplayers, and cosplaying in fact, really need to get into that, it's rather cool..
Was Skate 3 part of that Project 10 Dollar thing too? I bought it and it says that you need some code to enter to download custom parks and if you don't have the code with the game you can buy it for $10...
it's where people dress up as a character from a tv show, video game, anime/manga, cartoon, or comic book some can be goodike42 said:
while some can be bad as pointed out by this guy
sometimes they're so bad it's funny like that pic above (at least to me)crotalidian said:also:
MY EYES!!!
and anyway I voted for Facebook games and there was obviously no-one willing to speak up for them!
Broken Image is broken. want to see your good cosplay example. I know the good stuff is impressive but the bad always outweighs itGolem239 said:
hmmm wonder why it's broken? comes up fine for me here's the link http://www.just-whatever.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/good-cosplay-6.jpgcrotalidian said:
on another note
yeah true bad stuff will outweigh the good stuff but then again we would have nothing to laugh at