The Hyperion books although I did forgot the autor sadly, everything by Tess Geritssen and the writers duo Preston&Child. Hard to pick one of them 
I get what you mean. I don't feel as strongly about it, and I might as well finish them at some point. But seeing the Socialist parallels come through was a worrying process. But yes, writing a convincing character holding a belief that runs against his own is a skill Terry Goodkind sorely lacks.Newtonyd said:Do yourself a favor and don't read the Sword of Truth series at all. I've read the entire thing, and I can tell you it is the series I've most regretted reading. I continued to read it mostly because I kept getting them for my birthday from people who didn't know better, so I felt semi-obligated to continue.Psykoma said:DeeWiz said:The Sword of Truth seres - can't really pick only one book out of it. A close second would be Sword Art Online, not the anime but the books, which are much better.
Would it be better to read the sword of truth series chronologically, or the order the books came out?
If you must read it, read only the first 3 or 4 books. I'd hesitate at that, because the first few books might convince you that I'm wrong and that maybe the series is worth reading after all. After that, it turns into an extremely thinly veiled rant against socialism / communism, in which the socialists are an endless faceless army of serial rapists. Speaking of which, you'd better like reading rape and torture scenes, because rarely do a few chapters go by without some village or caravan being raped to death.
Anyway, the author's political motivations are ridiculously transparent. Just as an example, he has the main character drop what he's doing and get yanked, through plot construct, to the heart of the socialist empire, where he takes up a trade and then builds up an enormously successful business while showing everyone the limitless power of capitalism. This is an actual part of a book series that was previously all about beheading villains and using magic to fight satanists.
The last book of the series is literally just a bunch of pseudo discussions about socialism being a soul-crushing system, with the socialists essentially throwing up strawman arguments for the capitalists to demolish. The ending is a ridiculous hole to sweep the remainder of the plot into. At this point, it's not even offensive. Just lazy and uninspired.
Also, the socialists enslave and demonstratably out-evil the satanists.
Just WTF.
TL;DR Don't read it.
On topic, for fantasy, most recently I enjoyed Tigana, Way of Kings, and Book of the Long Sun. For more science-fiction stuff, I loved Neuromancer and The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. These are just the books I've read most recently, I'm sure I could dredge up more favorites.
Ironically, ASOIAF is big enough to carry you into next winter.Kiefer13 said:Terry Pratchett's Discworld series, without a doubt.
If A Song of Ice and Fire is half as good as I keep hearing it is, I'm sure that will be right up there too when I finally get around to reading it this summer.
I can agree with what you say about the portrayal of the Roman military. But I can forgive him there, Pressfield is significantly better at writing battle scenes and describing the military. It's pretty difficult to do properly, in an accurate, informative yet exciting manner. I'm aspiring to become a fantasy/historical-fantasy author myself, and the fight scenes are some of the hardest things to put to paper. I can only imagine how difficult it would be to properly describe an entire battle with many individual fronts and all kinds of unit tactics going on.SckizoBoy said:snip
Better not to read them at all. The first book is good but better to stop there. Pretty soon the author well he starts using the storys as a mouth piece for his beliefs and it's just not enjoyable.Psykoma said:DeeWiz said:The Sword of Truth seres - can't really pick only one book out of it. A close second would be Sword Art Online, not the anime but the books, which are much better.
Would it be better to read the sword of truth series chronologically, or the order the books came out?
That's the thing... you can cater to military historians (e.g. me) but you kind of alienate everyone else. For example, most authors of fiction don't know the difference between tactics and strategy, and so use the words interchangeably. The problem with trying to portray battlefield tactics and campaign strategy (and even more difficult, operational command), is that it's terribly dry, and most readers don't care much for it because it appears excessively text-book-ey, if you get my meaning. There needs to be risk, emotion, flash of inspiration associated with it. And in wars, it's only about the battles, rarely about anything else. Now, Kingdom of Heaven was a good example wherein the narrative explicitly showed the shortcomings of the Crusader army in its ability to supply itself with water. Yet the viewer doesn't care for such a statement except 'what are they doing trundling along thirsty'... *shrug*BathorysGraveland2 said:I can agree with what you say about the portrayal of the Roman military. But I can forgive him there, Pressfield is significantly better at writing battle scenes and describing the military. It's pretty difficult to do properly, in an accurate, informative yet exciting manner. I'm aspiring to become a fantasy/historical-fantasy author myself, and the fight scenes are some of the hardest things to put to paper. I can only imagine how difficult it would be to properly describe an entire battle with many individual fronts and all kinds of unit tactics going on.
Well, his other hist-fic is set in the States (one's CivWar, the other's pre-Rev, I think...). Anyway, I'm rather strange, insomuch that while I like studying most history, the ones I zone in on are mid-Republic Rome and Europe 1700-1871... or thereabouts... -_-I wasn't aware he had other historical fiction, though it could be his other historical fiction work is from times I'm not interesting in. I'm pretty shoehorned in when it comes to history. I'm only truly interested in periods encompassing the bronze age through to around the early middle ages (the Battle of Hastings is where I see my cut-off point). So that could be why.
Well, with R:TW, it's interactive, so you tell the story and you tell it how you like. Granted, some anachronisms will be inevitable, but the gameplay is the experience, not the setting. But when it's told to you, you need the realism for the story to educate you. Hence, it's all about the setting.I read your review of that, seems quite bad indeed. I do remember reading about one author who has a series of Roman Legion books, and he was widely panned as well. History seems to be a very hard thing to write about, especially since there are many passionate knowledgeable people of history who can jump on any inaccuracy. That's what is happening galore on forums about the upcoming Rome Total War game.
No, I feel more or less the same, except I aim more for authenticity, rather than full-on accuracy. As long as it feels right, then I'm okay with it, which is why I did ultimately like Pride of Carthage. While there were historical inaccuracies, some of them vast, it still felt authentic and researched. It is a fictional narrative after all, rather than a historical document or biography. There is much room for artistic liberty and change to fit the author, in my opinion at least. Most historical fiction authors would, I assume, be the first to tell you NOT to treat their work as education or information, much like what the director of 300 said.SckizoBoy said:Well, with R:TW, it's interactive, so you tell the story and you tell it how you like. Granted, some anachronisms will be inevitable, but the gameplay is the experience, not the setting. But when it's told to you, you need the realism for the story to educate you. Hence, it's all about the setting.
Not sure if you feel differently...
Well... it would end up in that old argument of historical fiction: when does it stop becoming dramatic licence, and when does it start becoming disrespecting history?BathorysGraveland2 said:No, I feel more or less the same, except I aim more for authenticity, rather than full-on accuracy. As long as it feels right, then I'm okay with it, which is why I did ultimately like Pride of Carthage. While there were historical inaccuracies, some of them vast, it still felt authentic and researched. It is a fictional narrative after all, rather than a historical document or biography. There is much room for artistic liberty and change to fit the author, in my opinion at least. Most historical fiction authors would, I assume, be the first to tell you NOT to treat their work as education or information, much like what the director of 300 said.
Quite so... I can't seem to think of ideas for fictional people doing their fictional things with a historic backdrop without them directly interfering, since it kinda messes with (un)due credit. Ah well... we each have our ways & preferences, I guess... -_-However, I guess that can falter when the subject is real events including real people. The historical fiction I intend to write all involve fictional characters taking part in fictional events, just in a historically authentic setting. I guess the context is relevant here.