your favorite game that got destroyed by crappy sequels?

[blankedboy]

Aww. *puts away The Castrating Disemboweler*

The Rayman series. Hands dow.

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Dear god. Who honestly released a MINIGAME PACK at FULL PRICE on PS2 and PC?
That's just heathen to the max.

Oh yeah, and Jak and Daxter too. Perhaps more so. I'm referring to The Lost Frontier, by the way, not the 2nd and 3rd or X. Those three were fine.

Oh yeah! Crash bandicoot. It tops everything. No contest allowed.

 

[William Dickbringer]

I guess maybe No More Heroes sort of count (I still like it but it wasn't as great as the first one due to the wrong changes).

I'd wait until the third one comes out to pass full judgement but yeah I'd agree with this 2 kinda dropped the ball but I was also hyped as hell for this game

 

[Quebkim]

Soulblade. This is the very first game in the series that would go on to become Soulcalibur. The characters were less caricature and it has the only good story mode in any fighting game I've ever played. Also, it had weapon damage, were if you blocked, your blade took a little damage, it it ran out of health, you lost it. It made every block a tactical decision and I really feel the series is worse because of it. Also, Soulcalibur 4 if really bad and throws are broken in it.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Honestly I've never understood how a game could become any less good simply because there was another game with a similar theme that wasn't as good... If a games good its good and a game being killed simply because of its sequel is the same as a sequel being good simply because its predecessor was good IMO, it doesn't work that way! although Fianl fantasy XIII dampened my view of the final fantasy series and square enix as a whole if that's what you mean

It's not the game that get's ruined, it's the franchise/series it belongs to. A crappy sequel will dampen, if not outright kill, any potential interest I may have in any game that comes after it, assuming any does. Any previous games that came before that I thought were awesome, still remain awesome.

Alas, poor Sonic...

After the abomination that was Sonic '06, nobody seems to be even giving him a fair chance anymore. The fanbase is FUBAR, full of stubborn people who will either defend or condemm any given title to their last breath, including going so far as to defend Sonic '06. But as I was saying, after that game, there seems to be a very large chunk of the gaming community who have decided that the franchise is dead and all subsequent Sonic games are futile attempts at revival, no matter how good the game may actually be. Combined with actual Sonic fans who may be pissed at any small part of the game, that's quite a vocal tidal wave that automatically crashes down on any current-gen title. Generations looks quite promising, actually, but I fear that promise may get drowned in the tidal wave spawned by that one sequel from five years ago.

Yes I think Sonic '06 was indeed the point in which Sonic lost his way, although I will say that I thought that game had plenty of potential. Granted, I never actually finished it. However as far as I did get on it, did find my self genuinely drawn into the story. That Mephalis character in particular intrigued me and I wanted to find out more about him. However my frustration with the bloody train level became greater than my curiosity (as well as that stupid dock level in Silver's story).

 

[Thaius]

Crash Bandicoot. Naughty Dog made an amazing franchise, and everyone else following has proceeded to rape it brutally.

But let's get one thing clear, 'cause I'm tired of this; bad sequels do not ruin good games. Bad adaptations do not ruin the source material. The first three Crash games and CTR are still amazing, despite having awful games after them. Avatar: The Last Airbender is still an amazing show even though the movie adaptation was awful. The Matrix is still one of the best sci-fi action films out there, despite the second and especially third ones being crap. Just to clarify.

 

[Buttmunch Chicken]

Crash Bandicoot. Hands down. The 1st one was the first game I owned, the second improved, and the third was a classic. Then Sony kicked out Naughty Dog and it all went to hell.

The first game sucked, though, but nostalgia.

Yes, every game past CTR got worse and worse. However, Sony never kicked out Naughty Dog. It was just the opposite, they bought Naughty Dog. Naughty Dog left the rights with Universal to focus on other games.

Still, I'd be nice to see a GOOD crash game come out on the newer consoles.

I forgot about CTR. A better go-kart game than even Mario-Kart in my opinion. I kinda feel the way about Crash that a lot of people feel about Sonic, though. Just let the old boy down, euthanize him and stop putting him through so much pain and suffering. He needs to be let go...

 

[Tiger Sora]

the short version is if you like a game in a franchise like command and conquer but it got a shitty sequel this is the place for you to vent your frustrations ( please don't kill me I'm new to the site)

Yeh man C&C-4 just... ruined it. Still a faithful follower of Kane though. Long live The Brotherhood!

 

[ppsh41]

Deus Ex, I played 2 hours of invisible war, then quit and never turned bak, HR is good i must say.
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: SOC was awesome, CS was dissapoint and COP made up in gameplay but the map was too darn small.

 

[ASan83]

Wild Arms. LOVED the first game, and the second was good, but the PS2 installments just didn't do it for me.

 

[Buttmunch Chicken]

Crash Bandicoot. Hands down. The 1st one was the first game I owned, the second improved, and the third was a classic. Then Sony kicked out Naughty Dog and it all went to hell.

The first game sucked, though, but nostalgia.

Sony didn't kick them out. Naughty Dog and Insomniac left Universal Interactive Studios (which was then bought by Vivendi, which is now merged into Activision Blizzard), where they had worked in the same building, and Universal kept the rights to both Crash and Spyro. Activision's subsidiary Sierra Entertainment (now absorbed into Activision Blizzard) holds the rights to both games, and is making shitty reboots and sequels with them.

I guess it can be deduced that my 'favorite game destroyed by crappy sequels' is Spyro. I also feel similarly about Crash, but I like Spyro about a hundred times more.

[small][Fun Fact! Out of Sony's "platformer trio," Insomniac is the only company still independent. But for how long, I wonder?][/small]

You're right. I forgot about Spyro and Sparx. I miss that series too. There was, like, one fun game on the PS2, but yeah. Spyro, Ripto's Rage, and Year of the Dragon are all classic, and were a huge part of my childhood.

 

[Atmos Duality]

-Armored Core
It pretty much all went to shit from Armored Core: Nexus onward, where the focus of the game became gimmick after gimmick.
AC4 did redeem the series somewhat, but I don't own a PS3 or 360, so I didn't get into it.

-Kingdom Hearts
Starting with KH2...yeah. The one everyone fucking loved.
And really, it wasn't the core gameplay (which was...odd in how it was balanced) but rather, the plot..I can't even properly describe it, but the first game's tone was set up perfectly from start to finish.
The second game didn't reach nearly the same level for me.

-Final Fantasy Tactics
FFTA ended this one for me...I liked the political atmosphere of Ivalice, and the seriousness of the story (without it becoming too dry or boring). So naturally, Squeenix had to churn out a fairly tepid "kiddy-version" because it was on the GBA. Don't get me wrong; FFTA isn't terrible. It's pretty decent for gameplay, but the story was just STUPID (oh you go Marche. You go and act like a condescending twat to your crippled brother).
What makes this sting even more is what happened to Ivalice AFTER FFTA: FF12.
Ugh..

-"Mana" series.
Yeah, I'm still picking on Squeenix. But they really did use the Mana franchise as a "shitty game dumping ground" for a few titles after Legend of Mana before just burying it forever.

X-com

anything after tftd was terrible, with the exception of apocalypse which was decent.

Terror From the Deep is just a reskin of XCOM 1...but with all the player's weapons nerfed into shittiness.

Oh, and Lobstermen. Fuck Lobstermen. Fuck them with a Thermal Shock Lance.

I found Apocalypse to be better than most of XCOM 1, actually.
Psionics was far less broken, and the environments were pretty damned cool (albeit, cartoon-y).

 

[an874]

The budding Dragon Age series, which started with great potential in Origins, reintroducing Baldur's Gate style games to the modern era and going in it's own direction. Dragon Age 2 took that and made a whole bunch of changes to gameplay and story that didn't need to happen. Granted, they couldn't tell the same "save the world" story twice in a row, and honestly it's not a terrible game by itself, but as a follow up to Origins it falls really short. I hope another sequel comes to fix this, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[TheCrazyAu55ie]

for me i'd have to say fablethe first one was great the two that followed kinda went down hill

 

[NeutralDrow]

Why on earth would I stop liking my favorite game because it got a crappy sequel?

I would think that only throws the quality of the first game into sharper relief.

 

[AzureZero]

Thank you. Everyone said when it became 3-d. I disagree. I fucking LOOVED Sonic adventure and Sonic adventure 2 battle. Those were fantastic games that were extremely enjoyable and memorable.

As for a game that sequels ruined for me... hmmm tough choice. I'm not extremely critical with games because I believe to many people are just because it seems like "the right thing to do". They go along with popular belief or would normally find the game fine to play, but instead analyze the hell out of it to come out with a "smart sounding" opinion about it so they don't look stupid when they say "but I thought this game was pretty ok!".

Your an average consumer. You might not want to admit it, but you are. Just try to play a game without being extremely critical and tons of them are playable start to finish without thinking you wasted your time. Easily. Now I'm not saying all games are decent, heavens no.

My biggest one is Twisted Metal. Twisted metal 1 was good and twisted metal 2 was friggin glorious. Twisted metal 3 disappointed and 4 just killed it. They did make it better with Twisted Metal black however.

Edit - This post was meant to quote someone earlier who said "after sonic adventure 2" but it didn't come out that way. o well. The sonic portion was directed at them.

 

[144_v1legacy]

Zelda was also destroyed by a string of incredibly mediocre games starting with Ocarina of Time.

I'm a little confused...so you liked Zelda, Zelda 2 and, Link to the Past and started disliking the series from OoT on or, was OoT the last good one? I always say OoT as being an upgraded version of Link to the Past but that's just me.

I was confused by this as well... I think it's the first thing you mentioned, based on his writing tone.

But then I realized that this is just the kind of person that likes to be anti-majority. He can't find a sense of individuality and therefore needs to fabricate one in this fashion. I mean, if someone honestly enjoyed LttP more than OoT while conscious that he's in the minuscule minority, he'd make some sort of disclaimer instead of just leaving a controversial post at the start of a thread like a turd in a urinal.

Besides, no matter how much justification he could possibly give towards his argument, it's not like he can change anyone's mind. We'll all just see the fruitless struggles of someone who's overly defensive for a battle he'll never win.

I imagine everyone is used to this sort of crapspout and just ignored it as a cry for attention.


AH! On topic, Final Fantasy. Depending on the sequel... I still enjoy tactics, for instance. I just feel that the ones with high numbers lack the exploration and customization offered by the first few. Not that it's bad, it simply changed into something I didn't associate with the title.

 

[Babitz]

Zelda was also destroyed by a string of incredibly mediocre games starting with Ocarina of Time.

I'm a little confused...so you liked Zelda, Zelda 2 and, Link to the Past and started disliking the series from OoT on or, was OoT the last good one? I always say OoT as being an upgraded version of Link to the Past but that's just me.

I was confused by this as well... I think it's the first thing you mentioned, based on his writing tone.

But then I realized that this is just the kind of person that likes to be anti-majority. He can't find a sense of individuality and therefore needs to fabricate one in this fashion. I mean, if someone honestly enjoyed LttP more than OoT while conscious that he's in the minuscule minority, he'd make some sort of disclaimer instead of just leaving a controversial post at the start of a thread like a turd in a urinal.

Besides, no matter how much justification he could possibly give towards his argument, it's not like he can change anyone's mind. We'll all just see the fruitless struggles of someone who's overly defensive for a battle he'll never win.

I imagine everyone is used to this sort of crapspout and just ignored it as a cry for attention.

Translated:
This guy doesn't have the same taste in Zelda as me so I will write stupid commentary about it and subtly call him a pathetic teenage rebel.

Grow up.

Fallout 1 and 2 were superior compared to Fallout 3 which I didn't really like. But I did enjoy Fallout New Vegas a lot as it was by the original developers and had lots of stuff that was supposed to be in the original Fallout 3 way back. It was also a much better game than Fallout 3. So I guess the series turned to better after all.

NV was by Obsidian, not Interplay. Just clarifying that.

The original developers were Black Isle; Interplay was the publisher. Former Black Isle employees founded Obsidian so yes, the game basically is made by the same developers.

 

[Matt Dellar]

After seeing people mention Rayman, I gotta agree. Rayman 2 wasn't my favorite for some reason, but Rayman 3 was just plain awesome and I loved it even though its PC port was just the PS2 version with reconfigured controls. They didn't even think to replace the buttons, and it was still saying stuff like "Press X to jump, press triangle to use," and all that.

Never played the first two Fallout games, but can safely say that the third was pretty cool. I love games with freedom. Fallout 3 definitely had that.

Silent Hill. I like most of the Silent Hill games, but with the proud announcement of Silent Hill 8 featuring bosses that were beaten through quick-time events, I abandoned any notion I had of getting it.

Also, Diablo. I don't care how good DIII is gonna be. If I can't play it for more than five minutes at a time, it's not worth my money.

 

[Tanfastic]

Fable. Loved one (That, ME, and LoZ:MM are all three tied for most playthroughs.) Fable 2 was okay but then Fable 3 just made me lose all hope.
Rayman. Stupid Rabids.
Spyro and Crash Bandicoot.

 

[DirgeNovak]

Crash Bandicoot and Spyro win this thread. All Crash and Spyro games released after their original developers dropped them were crap with the possible exception of Crash Twinsanity, which was merely mediocre.

Also God of War, but the sequels only fucked up the story. Gameplay was completely awesome. GoW2 and especially 3 make absolutely no sense story wise.