Your Health Will Regenerate in Resident Evil 6
- Thread starter John Funk
- Start date
That's the good kind of health regeneration, so it's fine by me. I wonder how many segments of health-bar there will be, though? I'm guessing they'll go with four or five.
I think they might do well to overlay an injury-system on top of the segmented health bar: when you take enough damage to deplete one or more segments (or maybe only if you take a lot of damage at once), you receive an injury which corresponds to how you were hurt. Head injury = eye damage or concussion, Leg injury = slowed movement speed, etc. An icon representing the injury appears, to fill in the missing health-segment. Maybe you have to heal injuries in different ways (nothing as tedious as Metal Gear Solid 3, though, please!) and sometimes in a certain order; injury-icons could have a priority rating and 'bump' each other up or down a segment. I've always appreciated the protagonist's injuries slowing him/her down in Resident Evil, but it'd be cool to mix it up a little bit to account for the type of injury.
Another cool way to mess with health bars is the Max-HP-Damage thing: when you take damage, a portion of it is permanent, or maybe just harder to heal. Dragon's Dogma does this (not all that well, unfortunately - spells won't heal "permadamage" but any curative item will), and I think the Ninja Gaiden games (hack-n-slash reboot, not the original sidescrollers) did too. In the case of RE6, this kind of system would probably be redundant.. so what point am I trying to make? I guess it's: "I like talking about health systems".
Regardless of how they do the health bar, I just hope it's scarier than RE5.
I think they might do well to overlay an injury-system on top of the segmented health bar: when you take enough damage to deplete one or more segments (or maybe only if you take a lot of damage at once), you receive an injury which corresponds to how you were hurt. Head injury = eye damage or concussion, Leg injury = slowed movement speed, etc. An icon representing the injury appears, to fill in the missing health-segment. Maybe you have to heal injuries in different ways (nothing as tedious as Metal Gear Solid 3, though, please!) and sometimes in a certain order; injury-icons could have a priority rating and 'bump' each other up or down a segment. I've always appreciated the protagonist's injuries slowing him/her down in Resident Evil, but it'd be cool to mix it up a little bit to account for the type of injury.
Another cool way to mess with health bars is the Max-HP-Damage thing: when you take damage, a portion of it is permanent, or maybe just harder to heal. Dragon's Dogma does this (not all that well, unfortunately - spells won't heal "permadamage" but any curative item will), and I think the Ninja Gaiden games (hack-n-slash reboot, not the original sidescrollers) did too. In the case of RE6, this kind of system would probably be redundant.. so what point am I trying to make? I guess it's: "I like talking about health systems".
Regardless of how they do the health bar, I just hope it's scarier than RE5.
Right now, the gaming industry is at the tail end of the "like Call of Duty, but..." phase. Now every gaming franchise is going to be forced to adopt some aspects of Call of Duty, even if they are forced to abandoned core aspects of their franchises. Reason for this is gaming companies think that all gamers want Call of Duty and evidence does support that. Last year, Call of Duty made Activision what, a billion dollars in sales, micro-transactions, and commercial revenue in multiplayer sessions. Based on that alone, companies think that what gamer's want.Waaghpowa said:
Whether it's true or not does not matter. Companies think all gamers want it because the only data they trust is the sales. Sales indicate this is Call of Duty style action is the horse you choose.
As long as most monters and attacks do more than one block of damage, I may accept this.
Quoted just to agree with you good sir.Casual Shinji said:Are you kidding me, this is the funniest thing I've seen in days!WanderingFool said:Eh... not that funny. but funnier than this.bafrali said:
Actually the desperately needed modernization that this series needs would be improved writing. While it may not be up there with AAA shooters (nor is its playstle well suited for multiplayer) the gameplay in RE4 was a dramatic improvement over its predecessors and IMO that's enough. The story however is another matter as RE4 was just as pants-on-head retarded as every RE game that came before it and every one that's come out since. Seriously, the people who do the writing for this series suck at their jobs.John Funk said:
So it sounds like a portion of the aspect of Far Cry 2s health system (forgive me if other games do it to, this was the most recent[10 minutes ago] I played that used it). That may be the best way to do regenerating health and Far Cry had a brutally realistic health system but I dunno if it suits a horror game. At least not the aspect they took. If you had to get to cover and pull a bullet out of your arm in a couple of seconds like in Far Cry 2 then that could get pretty scary I imagine.
But really I havn't cared about the Resident Evil series since number 4 or before that either, so my opinion doesn't really matter here. in fact, I don't really care if the game does turn into a full on shooter.
But really I havn't cared about the Resident Evil series since number 4 or before that either, so my opinion doesn't really matter here. in fact, I don't really care if the game does turn into a full on shooter.
Sounds stupid. Can we turn it off?
-I'm not even a hardcore enthusiast or anything but rejenerating health in Resident Evil just sounds dirty and wrong. Not that it couldn't be in there at all, if we were playing as Wesker or some sort of B.O.W. I could see it happening. But just handing it out to everyone takes whatever weight it might have had out of the game.
-I'm not even a hardcore enthusiast or anything but rejenerating health in Resident Evil just sounds dirty and wrong. Not that it couldn't be in there at all, if we were playing as Wesker or some sort of B.O.W. I could see it happening. But just handing it out to everyone takes whatever weight it might have had out of the game.
Doesn't it kind of depend *how fast* it regenerates too? I mean, if it just zips back up, it might seem a bit odd, but if it takes you a couple of minutes to fully recharge your last block while undead horrors are bearing down on you...I'd say that would add to the tension, while still giving you that last fighting chance to regroup.
Mind you, I don't play a lot of survival horror, so my opinion is coming through a slightly different lens, I expect.
Mind you, I don't play a lot of survival horror, so my opinion is coming through a slightly different lens, I expect.
If you're still hoping they bring back the survival horror nature of the earlier titles in this series, then you're clearly being overly optimistic.
Enjoy it for what it is, or don't buy a Resident Evil game ever again, it's that simple.
Captcha: market forces - Indeed.
Enjoy it for what it is, or don't buy a Resident Evil game ever again, it's that simple.
Captcha: market forces - Indeed.
I'm fairly certain that this kind of health-system was used in Mass Effect 3, though it had a regenerating shield/barrier on top of that as well, but still.Waaghpowa said:Your example is perfect and it baffles me that nobody uses it. Bunch of pricks.FantomOmega said:Example:
But on the topic itself: I'm guessing that this kind of system can work well in a survival-"horror" game, like if it only regenerates rather slowly as someone above me suggested.
I honestly don't understand why they would even change this. It's one of those small little micro-changes that doesn't really change anything. Changing for the sake of change. The system is almost identical. Will there still be three different herb types that when combined give you more overall health? It will be more quantifiable with this, if that is still indeed the case.
It's so tricky for companies to judge how to handle games in a series. If they don't change anything, critics and gamers alike attack it for doing what the last game did. If they change it too much, critics and gamers attack it for not carrying on the traditions of the previous games. I don't know about you, but if they keep the old traditions and make a new story and new locations, I don't personally see it as problematic. That said, I have mostly enjoyed every RE game to date, even if it wasn't for the same reasons as I enjoyed the previous games in the series.CardinalPiggles said:
I think this would be handled the best if they did a thing like in the Versus games. Instead of a series of bars, they should Make the tail of the bar a different color, and that represents how much health will regenerate over time. I don't know why, but if it's a series of bars it reminds me of Resistance: Fall of Man and Deus Ex: Human revolution.xptn40S said:I'm fairly certain that this kind of health-system was used in Mass Effect 3, though it had a regenerating shield/barrier on top of that as well, but still.Waaghpowa said:Your example is perfect and it baffles me that nobody uses it. Bunch of pricks.FantomOmega said:Example:
But on the topic itself: I'm guessing that this kind of system can work well in a survival-"horror" game, like if it only regenerates rather slowly as someone above me suggested.
I'm with you, I have played every game and enjoyed every game. We are the true fans of the series, not the people who break the games down and attack them for not being like the previous games.Don Savik said:
That said, you can't look at the older games in a vacuum. You have to be looking at the games in the context that games tend to be played, especially RE games. They are essentially solitary games. The music, lighting, and the restricton of movement combined with the resilient enemies and scarce ammo are all effective ways to increase stress, which is a main component of fear.
Edit: Ugh, the FMV opening and closer were all completely awful. That shit has no place in games.
I'm sorry, but I would absolutely LOVE to play with horrible fixed cameras again. I still go back and play the first Dino Crisis every now and then.
Yo, right here. Give me terrible fixed camera angles over regenerating health any day.John Funk said:
As an alternative, I have to say what made Resident Evil 1 and 2 scarier was the scarcity of ammo. By the end of 3, 4 and 5 I had more ammo than I could carry conveniently.
Make it so that taking a shot is something to be debated again.
I think this article is wrong. I saw a gameplay demo where the player HAD to heal as Chris, but had a regenerating bar which was esentially stamina for melee attacks. Throughout the video his health didn;t automatically heal. Can we get this revised?
I will preface this by saying I didn't read all comments prior to mine so I might be repeating, sorry. But why does Resident Evil need changing? Can anyone answer that question? If I wanted to play a run and gun zombie game with co-op gameplay and no focus whatsoever on horror or survival, I'd just play Left 4 Dead, but I don't because that isn't the experience I want. What I do want to play is Resident Evil, the original formula that I loved as a kid and continue to love with all it's fixed camera angles, bullshit hit detection,frightening antagonists and hilariously bad dialog. I just spent about £150 not long ago buying most of the classic styled Resident Evil games of my youth because I didn't want to play the modern alternatives, that's money I'd have gladly given to Capcom for something even vaguely resembling Resident Evil 1-3, but no, guess that'll never happen.
Re-purposing a franchise to appeal to an audience other than the original fanbase is just wrong under all circumstances, just ask the Dead Space fans, those poor bastards...
Rant over.
Re-purposing a franchise to appeal to an audience other than the original fanbase is just wrong under all circumstances, just ask the Dead Space fans, those poor bastards...
Rant over.
I'm pretty sure the key to fright is a feeling of scarcity. If you have 3 bullets and 4 zombies your extremely rattled, and if you have nothing but a lantern that invites danger your constantly ready to piss your pants.XMark said:
