Your Music pet peeves

[piinyouri]

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I love Mario's arrangements in Vacuity.
It's simple, but that seems to me the source of it's effectiveness.
That he took something as mundane as a cymbal choke and made it part of the whole landscape of the song in a pretty unique way is ingenious.

 

[Jonluw]

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I love Mario's arrangements in Vacuity.
It's simple, but that seems to me the source of it's effectiveness.
That he took something as mundane as a cymbal choke and made it part of the whole landscape of the song in a pretty unique way is ingenious.

Yeah, it's good.
I can't say I've examined or analyzed their music very closely though. I mostly listened to them before I started playing music myself.
After I started playing, I sort of grew an interest in jazz and lost my desire to listen to loud metal for a while.

That's not to say I don't still enjoy them, but when I listen to metal these days it's mostly cheesy melodic fantasy metal like Rhapsody of fire.
I'm afraid if I listen to the darker metal again I'll fall back into my depressive moods.
Don't want that.

Spoiler: Basically, I am in a place in my life where I'd rather listen to Depapepe

 

[MrGseff]

Screaming. Also Key Changes, I find key changes to be lazy, something you do when you can't think of a good finisher for a song so you re play what you just sang but on a higher/lower tone.

 

[piinyouri]

gojira videos

I love Mario's arrangements in Vacuity.
It's simple, but that seems to me the source of it's effectiveness.
That he took something as mundane as a cymbal choke and made it part of the whole landscape of the song in a pretty unique way is ingenious.

Yeah, it's good.
I can't say I've examined or analyzed their music very closely though. I mostly listened to them before I started playing music myself.
After I started playing, I sort of grew an interest in jazz and lost my desire to listen to loud metal for a while.

That's not to say I don't still enjoy them, but when I listen to metal these days it's mostly cheesy melodic fantasy metal like Rhapsody of fire.
I'm afraid if I listen to the darker metal again I'll fall back into my depressive moods.
Don't want that.

Spoiler: Basically, I am in a place in my life where I'd rather listen to Depapepe

Actually I really understand you there.
I use to listen to quite a bit of moody dark music in my younger more turbulent years. Somehow it made me feel better.
Nowadays if I listen to anything from that time in my life, it just brings me down. And not in the melancholic cathartic sort of way. Just the "I don't want to do anything now" way.

 

[KefkaCultist]

Probably just the "I'm going to scream into this microphone for 5 minutes appreciate me" thing that death metal has going.
I had someone on this very website that it's fine for them to be like that because they might have some deep political or moral meanings in their lyrics. Seriously, if I want politics, I'll ask a politician, if I want good walking/chilling out music, I stay the fuck away from Death metal.

Oh, and all dubstep. All of it.

It's probably not gonna make you change your opinion of the genre as a whole, but there is Death Metal that doesn't have the super-heavy unintelligible growl/scream vocals. Unfortunately, it is much more rare than the terrible screaming/growling that plagues the genre. The vocals aren't completely clean by any means because that's just a quality of death metal, but there are ways of doing the genre without screaming the song to shit.

Spoiler: Here are a few examples from the top of my head. (not all are strictly death metal, but they're still pretty close to the genre

Death - Spiritual Healing: Vocals kinda on the grittier side, but still understandable.

Otep - Confrontation: Yes, she shouts in the music, but it's normal yelling instead of stupid pig-squeals or something. EDIT: Also, Otep is very political/poetic with their lyrics which I like a lot (Shamaya, the singer, is a published poet).

In Flames - The Quiet Place: So this one is actually considered more 'melodic death metal', but it's pretty similar to death metal (there are too many sub genres anyway).

Again, not trying to change your opinion on the entire genre, I'm just saying that there are heavy songs without completely guttural vocals.

EDIT: Also, it's still not really good chilling/walking around music lol

 

[The Diabolical Biz]

Oh I've just remembered another one!

This isn't so much about music but people's attitudes to music; I think that @OhJohnNo already touched upon it slightly, but put succinctly it is the assumption that making music electronically takes no skill. People who think that stuff like sampling, and manipulating a synth is just a piece of cake.

AAGGHH.

This is especially annoying when you consider that the technology to manipulate samples in terms of length without messing up the pitch didn't even exist until 1997. Some of the instrumentals people made before that were exceptional.

Plus when you go back even further, the art of using a break and a turn-table to make a live beat itself was incredibly concept! People really are too quick to bash things they don't understand.

Making electronic music that sounds well produced and not tacky and shit is also way harder than the multitudes seem to think it to be.

It's noteworthy at this point to say that this doesn't stand for everything - of course there are talentless hacks who bring down genres as a whole, but collectively I'd say that most stuff takes talent.

As a side note, I really want an MPC.

 

[hazabaza1]

Probably just the "I'm going to scream into this microphone for 5 minutes appreciate me" thing that death metal has going.
I had someone on this very website that it's fine for them to be like that because they might have some deep political or moral meanings in their lyrics. Seriously, if I want politics, I'll ask a politician, if I want good walking/chilling out music, I stay the fuck away from Death metal.

Oh, and all dubstep. All of it.

It's probably not gonna make you change your opinion of the genre as a whole, but there is Death Metal that doesn't have the super-heavy unintelligible growl/scream vocals. Unfortunately, it is much more rare than the terrible screaming/growling that plagues the genre. The vocals aren't completely clean by any means because that's just a quality of death metal, but there are ways of doing the genre without screaming the song to shit.

Spoiler: Here are a few examples from the top of my head. (not all are strictly death metal, but they're still pretty close to the genre

Death - Spiritual Healing: Vocals kinda on the grittier side, but still understandable.

Otep - Confrontation: Yes, she shouts in the music, but it's normal yelling instead of stupid pig-squeals or something.

In Flames - The Quiet Place: So this one is actually considered more 'melodic death metal', but it's pretty similar to death metal (there are too many sub genres anyway).

Again, not trying to change your opinion on the entire genre, I'm just saying that there are heavy songs without completely guttural vocals.

To be honest, only the last one sounded half decent to me, and even then, too much thrashing for my tastes. I'm just more of a "sit back and chill" guy when it comes to music.
I appreciate the effort though. Always nice to get a new perspective on music.

 

[Jonluw]

Yeah, it's good.
I can't say I've examined or analyzed their music very closely though. I mostly listened to them before I started playing music myself.
After I started playing, I sort of grew an interest in jazz and lost my desire to listen to loud metal for a while.

That's not to say I don't still enjoy them, but when I listen to metal these days it's mostly cheesy melodic fantasy metal like Rhapsody of fire.
I'm afraid if I listen to the darker metal again I'll fall back into my depressive moods.
Don't want that.

Spoiler: Basically, I am in a place in my life where I'd rather listen to Depapepe

Actually I really understand you there.
I use to listen to quite a bit of moody dark music in my younger more turbulent years. Somehow it made me feel better.
Nowadays if I listen to anything from that time in my life, it just brings me down. And not in the melancholic cathartic sort of way. Just the "I don't want to do anything now" way.

Yeah, that's pretty much how I feel.
Except instead of feeling like I don't want to do anything, I feel like if anything happens to make me sad, like someone getting angry with me, I'll just want to go self harm and shit.

Spoiler: Except for this particular one, because it's hilarious

Particularly at approx. 0:35

 

[Qtoy]

Ok. This isn't so much about music itself, but when people say something isn't music.

Example: "[Insert Dubstep/House/Rap/Etc.] Artist isn't music! It's just a bunch of-"

No. Shut up. You are not the definer of music; you do not get to choose what is music and what is not!
According to whichever dictionary this is from, music is this: The art or science of combining vocal or instrumental sounds (or both) to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion.

I don't like Kenny Chesney, but I'm not about to discredit him as a musician. KeSha is a musician no matter how much I don't like her. I am not the be all end all of music, and neither are you.

 

[KefkaCultist]

Probably just the "I'm going to scream into this microphone for 5 minutes appreciate me" thing that death metal has going.
I had someone on this very website that it's fine for them to be like that because they might have some deep political or moral meanings in their lyrics. Seriously, if I want politics, I'll ask a politician, if I want good walking/chilling out music, I stay the fuck away from Death metal.

Oh, and all dubstep. All of it.

It's probably not gonna make you change your opinion of the genre as a whole, but there is Death Metal that doesn't have the super-heavy unintelligible growl/scream vocals. Unfortunately, it is much more rare than the terrible screaming/growling that plagues the genre. The vocals aren't completely clean by any means because that's just a quality of death metal, but there are ways of doing the genre without screaming the song to shit.

Spoiler: Here are a few examples from the top of my head. (not all are strictly death metal, but they're still pretty close to the genre

Death - Spiritual Healing: Vocals kinda on the grittier side, but still understandable.

Otep - Confrontation: Yes, she shouts in the music, but it's normal yelling instead of stupid pig-squeals or something.

In Flames - The Quiet Place: So this one is actually considered more 'melodic death metal', but it's pretty similar to death metal (there are too many sub genres anyway).

Again, not trying to change your opinion on the entire genre, I'm just saying that there are heavy songs without completely guttural vocals.

To be honest, only the last one sounded half decent to me, and even then, too much thrashing for my tastes. I'm just more of a "sit back and chill" guy when it comes to music.
I appreciate the effort though. Always nice to get a new perspective on music.

Fair enough. I'm one of the uncommon, reasonable metal-heads that knows that it's not every one's cup of tea lol. Just thought I'd try and break the common misconception that all death metal is senseless yelling.

 

[hazabaza1]

Probably just the "I'm going to scream into this microphone for 5 minutes appreciate me" thing that death metal has going.
I had someone on this very website that it's fine for them to be like that because they might have some deep political or moral meanings in their lyrics. Seriously, if I want politics, I'll ask a politician, if I want good walking/chilling out music, I stay the fuck away from Death metal.

Oh, and all dubstep. All of it.

It's probably not gonna make you change your opinion of the genre as a whole, but there is Death Metal that doesn't have the super-heavy unintelligible growl/scream vocals. Unfortunately, it is much more rare than the terrible screaming/growling that plagues the genre. The vocals aren't completely clean by any means because that's just a quality of death metal, but there are ways of doing the genre without screaming the song to shit.

Spoiler: Here are a few examples from the top of my head. (not all are strictly death metal, but they're still pretty close to the genre

Death - Spiritual Healing: Vocals kinda on the grittier side, but still understandable.

Otep - Confrontation: Yes, she shouts in the music, but it's normal yelling instead of stupid pig-squeals or something.

In Flames - The Quiet Place: So this one is actually considered more 'melodic death metal', but it's pretty similar to death metal (there are too many sub genres anyway).

Again, not trying to change your opinion on the entire genre, I'm just saying that there are heavy songs without completely guttural vocals.

To be honest, only the last one sounded half decent to me, and even then, too much thrashing for my tastes. I'm just more of a "sit back and chill" guy when it comes to music.
I appreciate the effort though. Always nice to get a new perspective on music.

Fair enough. I'm one of the uncommon, reasonable metal-heads that knows that it's not every one's cup of tea lol. Just thought I'd try and break the common misconception that all death metal is senseless yelling.

I probably could have specified my feelings on it a bit more in my OP. It's just like I said, the thrashing guitars and stuff can get a bit much for me.
Still, nice to see someone level headed. I know musical debates tend to bring a lot of the "OHMYGOD YOU DON'T LIKE MY MUSIC SO YOU ARE WRONG" kind of people out.

 

[KefkaCultist]

Probably just the "I'm going to scream into this microphone for 5 minutes appreciate me" thing that death metal has going.
I had someone on this very website that it's fine for them to be like that because they might have some deep political or moral meanings in their lyrics. Seriously, if I want politics, I'll ask a politician, if I want good walking/chilling out music, I stay the fuck away from Death metal.

Oh, and all dubstep. All of it.

It's probably not gonna make you change your opinion of the genre as a whole, but there is Death Metal that doesn't have the super-heavy unintelligible growl/scream vocals. Unfortunately, it is much more rare than the terrible screaming/growling that plagues the genre. The vocals aren't completely clean by any means because that's just a quality of death metal, but there are ways of doing the genre without screaming the song to shit.

Spoiler: Here are a few examples from the top of my head. (not all are strictly death metal, but they're still pretty close to the genre

Death - Spiritual Healing: Vocals kinda on the grittier side, but still understandable.

Otep - Confrontation: Yes, she shouts in the music, but it's normal yelling instead of stupid pig-squeals or something.

In Flames - The Quiet Place: So this one is actually considered more 'melodic death metal', but it's pretty similar to death metal (there are too many sub genres anyway).

Again, not trying to change your opinion on the entire genre, I'm just saying that there are heavy songs without completely guttural vocals.

To be honest, only the last one sounded half decent to me, and even then, too much thrashing for my tastes. I'm just more of a "sit back and chill" guy when it comes to music.
I appreciate the effort though. Always nice to get a new perspective on music.

Fair enough. I'm one of the uncommon, reasonable metal-heads that knows that it's not every one's cup of tea lol. Just thought I'd try and break the common misconception that all death metal is senseless yelling.

I probably could have specified my feelings on it a bit more in my OP. It's just like I said, the thrashing guitars and stuff can get a bit much for me.
Still, nice to see someone level headed. I know musical debates tend to bring a lot of the "OHMYGOD YOU DON'T LIKE MY MUSIC SO YOU ARE WRONG" kind of people out.

Haha, yeah, I know that mentality well since my friend fights about that kind of stuff a lot. I would never argue over the internet anyway because they never create winners, only losers. Besides, how could I argue with someone who has a QI avatar of Stephen Fry? ^_^

 

[Doneeee]

-Metal songs about satan, killing, etc.

I've often wondered why nobody else I've seen has remarked on how utterly silly it is that there's a serious metal band called "Megadeth", with album titles like Killing is my business, and business is good!. Now, I could understand it if they were like Alestorm, revelling in their silliness, but this Megadeth band seem completely dead serious about what they do and everyone just accepts it as normal. I need an explanation!

Megadeth don't really take themselves too seriously. Heck when they started off Dave Mustaine was pretty much just trying to upstage Metallica.

Spoiler: Example of their silliness

OT: I hate it when a song has an interesting riff or good chorus and it's completely ruined because no one gave a fuck.

Spoiler

The cool part that I feel they wasted comes in at about 0:44

I also dislike when the 'noise' in a song (mostly in industrial) becomes so loud I can't hear the singer. This happened alot in NINs album the downward spiral.

 

[Saviordd1]

I hate it when idiotic people listen to music with SOME sort of message or meaning, and only pay attention to like 2 lines of the song and think they understand the whole thing.

Looking at you Gotye....


Also, when otherwise good songs with good singers seem obligated to have scream fests (though this is because of my distaste for the whole singing followed by sounding like your gargling sand while trying to sing)

Looking at you Picture me Broken

 

[the Dept of Science]

For me, sampling (unless the song being sampled is referenced within the lyrics)

Pretty much all hip-hop is sample based though, a lot of the time it may be just a matter of whether its a song you know/care about. Someone taking a song that you like, cutting it up and rapping over it is like listening to someone covering the song; unless they manage to improve it, its just going to annoy you that its worse than the original.

Artist such as DJ Shadow or The Avalanches make music entirely out of sampling. However, they get their samples through "crate digging", where they spend countless hours searching through old record collections so that they can find just the right beat or sound, even if its off something that noone has listened to in 30 years. They are pretty extreme examples, but I think that there are plenty of good rappers who can bring new life to an old gem.

OT: songs about partying... I don't think I have to describe myself... unless you're taking the piss out of it like the Electric Six it's just so damned terrible... I prefer there to be some form of emotional or artistic integrity in my music thank you very much...

The Hold Steady, LCD Soundsystem and the Streets are bands that can combine the two. Turning a drunken night out into some transcendent experience.

Your point still pretty much stands though, because I looked through the entire library and these were the only three I could come up with.

Apparently, my peeve is people who have a good voice...

Not really. But [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8gdqWTgi9s] I [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkBacp4I8qw] do [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXkZI7WZWOo] tend [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFHlK8ZXgvE] to [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk3mAX5xdxo] like [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFx5tP8JdPI&list=UUIWrFV81IczsKZHR8VKQG9w&index=10&feature=plcp] singers [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMyCa35_mOg] with [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4_dqZA4v00] bad [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zpDwfXtFfI] (or really rough [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URp-Dbhr7EU]) voices [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38HomZC_Dds]. Maybe not actually bad...but...flawed in some noticeable way. It's endearing to me. Not that I don't listen to any people who can really sing, but I just like those rough qualities to a person's voice.

Musical [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcu2ONECf_8] ability [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGMd9zQt8TE] is overrated. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pKkOOQR7_o]

As is melody [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdeqvhxu7iI]

 

[Vault101]

hahaha....I actually really like that song

Well, you have a choice in music that vastly differs from mine haha

Which song? I put about 5 in that spoiler ... I will have a wild stab in the dark and pick the most reptitve one, which would be the "soulja boy" one?

I now feel dirty for typing "soulja" ... where mah bleach....

I need a dollar

dollar..dollar is what I need

[small/]hey hey[/small]

 

[Jazoni89]

I only have two "real" pet-peeves when it comes to music.

The first is poor music association or genre confusion. For example, when someone mentions techno or electronic music and the first (and often only) thing that pops into someones head is trashy, awful dance-club trance. I hate that.

Spoiler: Here's an example.

Spoiler: This is dubstep.

Spoiler: This is brostep.

What bugs me is, when people mention dubstep today the only thing most people associate it with is brostep. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING. Brostep is a sub-genre of dubstep. (an absolutely horrid abomination of a sub-genre, in my opinion) It would be like saying pop-soft-rock is indicative of ALL rock music. It makes no sense.

The second "pet-peeve" is when the worst songs in a genre become the most popular (giving far more attention to the talentless hacks of the field) while the better songs and artists go almost entirely unnoticed. (or worse, are actually labeled as "bad" compared to the more popular artists)

Spoiler: Example.

Spoiler: Here is a popular song by an (artist) who is (world-renowned).

Spoiler: And, here is a song that is virtually unknown by the masses.

Not even speaking on the quality of the compositions, just listen to the lyrics. The sheer difference between the two is striking. One is inspirational, emotional, and uplifting; while the other is just confrontational and boorish.

It sickens me to see one of these become immensely popular and the other go down in obscurity.

The second one is definitely true for Grunge.

It's always Nirvana this, Nirvana that, Nirvana created Grunge, Kurt Cobain is God, I want to snort Cobain's ashes...What about Mudhoney, or one of the real originators of the genre like the U-Men and Tad, or hell...even some Soundgarden, or frikken Pearl Jam will do.

There is so much good stuff in that genre that was overshadowed by the juggernaut that is Nirvana. They weren't even as good as the others as well, and they pretty much ripped the Pixies off anyway, so they weren't all that original.

Here's a challenge for all you guys: Go up to any kid wearing a Nirvana shirt, and ask them to name five Grunge bands, and guess what, nine times out of ten I bet you they will only say one, or maybe two if by any chance they know Pearl Jam.

 

[piinyouri]

As is melody [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdeqvhxu7iI]

I knew it would only be a matter of time before someone posted Sunn O))).

Let the true music nerd rage commence forthwith!

That album is amazing too by the way, specially the track you posted. Was my first Sunn O))) song and it pretty much floored me.

 

[Jazoni89]

As is melody [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdeqvhxu7iI]

I knew it would only be a matter of time before someone posted Sunn O))).

Let the true music nerd rage commence forthwith!

That album is amazing too by the way, specially the track you posted. Was my first Sunn O))) song and it pretty much floored me.

*sounds of broken refrigerators*

and you guys consider Dubstep not music...

/musicnerdrage

Also, don't Sunn play like three chords in a single song? God forbid if they make an album where they crank it up to four chords.

That would really be one for the music books.

Did I rustle your Jimmies?

 

[Vault101]

I hate music that sounds fake. Basically, music that is nothing but Keyboards, a Drum Machine, and extra Computers to create a fake Orchestra really make me mad. Since Rap and Modern Pop are the two biggest culprits of this, those are genres I really hate. Now, Music can use Keyboards, but they shouldn't use Keyboards to play the Guitar, The Bass, Or an Arrangement of Orchestral instruments, they should be used to play the Piano and other Key-related Instruments, or to make SFX in a song.

....

music "purity" is overated