It seems like a lot of gamers would say that Nintendo isn't a provider of actual games...I guess this could tie into the criticisms lobbied at games for kids but there are some people who are vehemently anti-Nintendo. Also, while it was true in the past, I don't recall the last time Nintendo made any significant changes to a game's content so as to make it more family friendly. Yeah, you can point at Lego City undercover and say it was the first Nintendo sandbox on the Wii U but the Wii had No More Heroes and Madhouse. The Wii U has Bayonetta 2 and it's going to be getting Devil's Third. I'm still a big Nintendo fan at 26 and I'm probably going to continue playing Nintendo games until I'm too old to hold a controller but it seems like a popular past time is to mock the Nintendo consoles as not being gamer-consoles...despite those consoles being dedicated games-playing machines.