Your Opinion: Which games have made you not to trust Nintendo anymore?
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Oh, that's easy. Not a game, but a different product. Any machine that they can remotely brick is dead to me. This is supposedly an anti-piracy measure, but this could happen to anyone, really, accident or not. AND I bet you dollars-to-donuts that the pirates know how to get around it anyway, as per usual. This is a GOOD reason to not buy Nintendo.
I lost faith in Nintendo when they kept putting out a new console with each new Pokemon game and restricting exclusive Pokemon to shopping centers in other countries, Gotta go Fuck yourselves Nintendo.
Also the lacking 3rd party support, lacking tech, and losing Rare sort of made Nintendo less appealing over the years with only Metroid Prime series being premium crack cocaine I was interested in.
If they ditched the crappy consoles and just made games for everything, I'd "trust" them a lot more. Frankly I'm looking forward to the gaming singularity, that gets rid of the mobile, console and PC distinction. No more console wars, PC master racers and whales, imagine that!
Also the lacking 3rd party support, lacking tech, and losing Rare sort of made Nintendo less appealing over the years with only Metroid Prime series being premium crack cocaine I was interested in.
If they ditched the crappy consoles and just made games for everything, I'd "trust" them a lot more. Frankly I'm looking forward to the gaming singularity, that gets rid of the mobile, console and PC distinction. No more console wars, PC master racers and whales, imagine that!
Is that the case here, though? People are "losing faith in Nintendo" based on some pretty odious choices. I don't get whjy they had faith in the first place, but the treatment of the Metroid franchise has been kind of crappy for almost a decade.inu-kun said:
If people were "losing faith" because Hyrule Warriors existed, or because they'd considered a girl Link as an additional character, or because Prime existed, or any of my prior examples, that'd be one thing. "They changed it, now it sucks" would apply there.
But here? I get the response, even if I think the dicton is needlessly hyperbolic.
I don't "trust" a company, but Nintendo would be one that I would trust if I absolutely had to.
In terms of games they're almost always rock solid, with a few hiccups here and there. They understand that games should be fun first and foremost, and I can't not respect that in a day and age where "Games are art."
Their games work out of the box, with maybe some exceptions? They certainly haven't had any larger issues like other pubs and developers have had. I guess Federation Force is a problem, and if I had the new console or DS or whatever it's on I'd be miffed. But I never bought a Wii or Wii U. So I wasn't really hankering to get it.
Calling Prime a FPS is kind of a disservice. Yeah it's in first person, but it's not a shooter in the same vain as other shooters are. It's more of a first person puzzle platformer where the chief factor in interacting with the environment happens to be a gun. It's literally Super Metroid done in 3D, with a few things switched and added, right down to the remixed OST.
Right now my criticisms are are more to do with their tertiary practices, and not specifically the games. They treat youtubers like crap with draconian internet policies. Their amibo shit is starting to get shady from what I've been reading. Also they seem to be putting out new handhelds at a faster pace. Which is the main reason keeping me from getting a DS.
In terms of games they're almost always rock solid, with a few hiccups here and there. They understand that games should be fun first and foremost, and I can't not respect that in a day and age where "Games are art."
Their games work out of the box, with maybe some exceptions? They certainly haven't had any larger issues like other pubs and developers have had. I guess Federation Force is a problem, and if I had the new console or DS or whatever it's on I'd be miffed. But I never bought a Wii or Wii U. So I wasn't really hankering to get it.
Calling Prime a FPS is kind of a disservice. Yeah it's in first person, but it's not a shooter in the same vain as other shooters are. It's more of a first person puzzle platformer where the chief factor in interacting with the environment happens to be a gun. It's literally Super Metroid done in 3D, with a few things switched and added, right down to the remixed OST.
Right now my criticisms are are more to do with their tertiary practices, and not specifically the games. They treat youtubers like crap with draconian internet policies. Their amibo shit is starting to get shady from what I've been reading. Also they seem to be putting out new handhelds at a faster pace. Which is the main reason keeping me from getting a DS.
There is no point in trusting a company more than you have to or anybody or anything I suppose but ofc I trust my friends and family much more than I do a company.
So they have done nothing to make me lose what I never gave them. As a company I have issues with them but not as much as I have with other such as EA or MS for example. But the fact is they dont make games that appeal to me as much as they used to.
I still buy their products and for the most part they are solid and a few have given me great enjoyment but most just feel like I am playing a game I have played before but with a new coat of paint its solid but it just does not do it for me really.
I bought the Wii U purely for Bayonetta 2 and Xenoblade Chronicles X i.e non in house Nintendo games and non traditional IP (I know Monolith Soft is A first party studio now). If they ahd more games like this I would not be complaianing and would buy a lot more games on their system but they dont. I am hopeful that the new Project Zero game gets a release here still because I will buy that for sure.
So they have done nothing to make me lose what I never gave them. As a company I have issues with them but not as much as I have with other such as EA or MS for example. But the fact is they dont make games that appeal to me as much as they used to.
I still buy their products and for the most part they are solid and a few have given me great enjoyment but most just feel like I am playing a game I have played before but with a new coat of paint its solid but it just does not do it for me really.
I bought the Wii U purely for Bayonetta 2 and Xenoblade Chronicles X i.e non in house Nintendo games and non traditional IP (I know Monolith Soft is A first party studio now). If they ahd more games like this I would not be complaianing and would buy a lot more games on their system but they dont. I am hopeful that the new Project Zero game gets a release here still because I will buy that for sure.
So the games that made you lose trust in Nintendo were games that they didn't develop?All righty thenCatfood220 said:
I trust them about as much as any other game company. (It helps that I'm only a Metroid and Zelda fan, and "buy on day one" might be a thing of the past for at least one of those franchises.) They've done things in the past that were questionable or obviously not in the best interest of their loyal fans. Though, I do expect their games to be of the higher quality (far fewer bugs, actually finished before pressing discs, etc) than the typical AAA release.
The way they handled the launch and advertising of the Wii U and their apparent lack of current support for the machine has me skeptical of buying an NX (if it really will replace the Wii U) until it certainly looks to be a good investment. Unfortunately, that's one of the issues the Wii U had for much of its life; no one is buying it, because there aren't any games for it, because no one is buying it. If we find out many Wii U titles were switched over to the NX, it might will be a blow to Nintendo's reputation.
The way they handled the launch and advertising of the Wii U and their apparent lack of current support for the machine has me skeptical of buying an NX (if it really will replace the Wii U) until it certainly looks to be a good investment. Unfortunately, that's one of the issues the Wii U had for much of its life; no one is buying it, because there aren't any games for it, because no one is buying it. If we find out many Wii U titles were switched over to the NX, it might will be a blow to Nintendo's reputation.
The criticisms in the Matthewmatosis video above and the rest of his Zelda reviews almost perfectly match what I feel about the Zelda series' flaws and how Big N should improve the franchise. (getting more tutorial heavy without an option to skip, gesture controls need more work before implementing them (the touchscreen only DS Zeldas are the only two I ever got rid of), Fi and other people/signs point out the obvious or don't give the player a change to think for themselves, etc.)
I sure am wondering what people inside the company feel about the Metroid franchise, especially after Other M's poor attempt at turning in into a story-driven franchise. The backlash from that game has shaken up the directors in charge of the franchise. (I think Yoshio Sakamoto even swore to never return to Metroid.) They even ignored fan demand for a simple 2D game on the DS/3DS, which should have been easy for Nintendo to do. They also seem to once again be passing up a Metroid title on another console generation.
There's an unnamed Wii U project in the works at the original Prime developer, Retro Studios, and I am hoping it's a surprise Metroid title to celebrate 30 years of screw attacking. But it is far more likely to be a different franchise, (hopefully for its fans, the even more dormant F-Zero series) and no matter what IP the project is based off, it could be held back to give the NX a more powerful launch lineup.
I sure am wondering what people inside the company feel about the Metroid franchise, especially after Other M's poor attempt at turning in into a story-driven franchise. The backlash from that game has shaken up the directors in charge of the franchise. (I think Yoshio Sakamoto even swore to never return to Metroid.) They even ignored fan demand for a simple 2D game on the DS/3DS, which should have been easy for Nintendo to do. They also seem to once again be passing up a Metroid title on another console generation.
There's an unnamed Wii U project in the works at the original Prime developer, Retro Studios, and I am hoping it's a surprise Metroid title to celebrate 30 years of screw attacking. But it is far more likely to be a different franchise, (hopefully for its fans, the even more dormant F-Zero series) and no matter what IP the project is based off, it could be held back to give the NX a more powerful launch lineup.
I'm not going to say that I distrust Nintendo but between Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tracks, Twilight Princess-Wii and, Skyward Sword I find it really difficult to trust that any new, modern Legend of Zelda's will be playable with a traditional control scheme/controller. Skyward Sword was made difficult because I had to constantly re-calibrate my Wiimote. I played TP on the Gamecube and quite enjoyed it but the two DS games were straight up unplayable for me. My fingers are crossed for the option to play the next console Legend of Zelda games with a traditional control scheme...like Wind Waker. Wind Waker was awesome on GC AND Wii U.
I can't say I ever lost my trust with Nintendo but I would say I have grown out of or away from the games they produce. Plus they didn't have that many third party titles and the ones they did have just didn't appeal to me or I already owned them on another system, Resident Evil 4 being a prime example.
As far as I know they've improved with the Wii U in regards to the number of third party titles and I won't deny that I was tempted by Zombie U but for me they still don't offer as much as the competition.
As far as I know they've improved with the Wii U in regards to the number of third party titles and I won't deny that I was tempted by Zombie U but for me they still don't offer as much as the competition.
