Your video game hot take(s) thread

[BrawlMan]

This kind of response is really unnecessary.

It is when it involves somebody with nonsensical complaints, highlyvunrealistic expectations, is pretty much never satisfied with anything even when it's exactly what he wants, makes up bullshit on Japanese historty knows nothing about, and hangs out on other forums with known Nazi supporters/Nazi and has no promblem supporting the arguments of racist and sexist grifters. If you wanna cry for him, then i'm not gonna stop you. Though guy like that is not worth wasting tears on

 

[Ezekiel]

This kind of response is really unnecessary.

Strange that he has never been disciplined.

Like, even rpgcodex, which he wants to shame me for being a member of (talk about bubble), would have likely disciplined him by now, despite having very lax moderation.

 

[BrawlMan]

Strange that I never been disciplined.

Glad to know you are talking about yourselves. You love projecting because you're not man enough to admit it.

Like, even rpgcodex, which he wants to shame me for being a member of (talk about bubble), would have likely disciplined him by now, despite having very lax moderation.

Good, bcause I wouldn't be caught dead at that forum in the first place. And you would have been permanently banned by famiboards within a week, when you revealed where you were at and what you were up to. They don't like sexism, so they ban people for sexis statements or spreading false truths and rumors that had been long debunked.

Ghosts of Tsushima Review thread

Knowing human nature, I'm sure that none of them mocked the social code and asked for unnecessary fights in the way the protagonist does. They would have known their limitations. That character written with authenticity would be interesting. No, they wouldn't, because they wouldn't become the...

forums.escapistmagazine.com

So this is from RPG Codex, an alt-right hate site for chuds and incels that is just one or two degrees away from dives like 4chan. At best it's a place for trolls and edgelords who get off on unmoderated slurs, and a terminal case of "we're not a nazi bar, we just don't ban nazis". You get banned from enough places like Ezekiel, you wind up over there.



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[Drathnoxis]

It is when it involves somebody with nonsensical complaints, highlyvunrealistic expectations, is pretty much never satisfied with anything even when it's exactly what he wants, makes up bullshit on Japanese historty knows nothing about, and hangs out on other forums with known Nazi supporters/Nazi and has no promblem supporting the arguments of racist and sexist grifters. If you wanna cry for him, then i'm not gonna stop you. Though guy like that is not worth wasting tears on

If he is doing something against the rules, report him and move on. Breaking the rules yourself to belittle him for no other reason than you don't like him is just going to result in you getting banned, and taints the atmosphere of the forum. The forum has an ignore function, you should use it.

Strange that he has never been disciplined.

Like, even rpgcodex, which he wants to shame me for being a member of (talk about bubble), would have likely disciplined him by now, despite having very lax moderation.

He has received several suspensions, which is why I preferred to say something rather than report, as I would rather not see Brawlman get banned.

 

[BrawlMan]

he is doing something against the rules, report him and move on. Breaking the rules yourself to belittle him for no other reason than you don't like him is just going to result in you getting banned, and taints the atmosphere of the forum. The forum has an ignore function, you should use it.

I have reported him a few times.

He has received several suspensions, which is why I preferred to say something rather than report, as I would rather not see Brawlman get banned.

.............
Very well. I will leave him be.

Thank you.

 

[Ezekiel]

I have reported him a few times.

Reported me for what? You know that I never break the rules.

If he is doing something against the rules, report him and move on. Breaking the rules yourself to belittle him for no other reason than you don't like him is just going to result in you getting banned, and taints the atmosphere of the forum. The forum has an ignore function, you should use it.

He has received several suspensions, which is why I preferred to say something rather than report, as I would rather not see Brawlman get banned.

He doesn't belittle me, he belittles himself. Any reasonable person can see that. Once in a while I take a screenshot of his attacks and post it elsewhere for comedy.

 

[Worgen]

It is when it involves somebody with nonsensical complaints

I mean, this is the thread for nonsensical complaints.

 

[BrawlMan]

I mean, this is the thread for nonsensical complaints.

Well it's beyond nonsensical and whining over the dumbest thing that a majority people aren't gonna have a problem with. Or when a person makes shit up to confirm their own biases and prejudices. That I take major issue with. You already know me by this point. It's called having standards and limits, but it's more than just that with this case.

 

[Old_Hunter_77]

I dunno if it's a hot take but I'm now actually looking forward to the AssCreed pirate game remake.

At first I wasn't because a) remakes, bleh, whatever; b) we didn't know if it was real; c) I figured if it would be real it would the same kind of hack 'n' slash rpg-lite combat and free-running we've been getting of late, which I don't dislike, I'm must bored by because it's pretty shallow.

The latest reveals seem like it's not that.

It still might suck! If they do like they did with Mirage, which is to superficially change the gameplay but still use the same engine and basic mechanics and it ended up being worst of all things. But apparently the larger inspiration might be Unity and Syndicate, the games that came after the original pirate game and introduced really great ideas and potential but was executed poorly. Therefore, there's a possibility that with the better tech and time they would have something finally polished enough to work.

So if it's a better looking AssCreed pirate game with Unity-but-whatif-good parkour, we have ourselves a fun time.

 

[hanselthecaretaker2]

Glad to know you are talking about yourselves. You love projecting because you're not man enough to admit it.


Good, bcause I wouldn't be caught dead at that forum in the first place. And you would have been permanently banned by famiboards within a week, when you revealed where you were at and what you were up to. They don't like sexism, so they ban people for sexis statements or spreading false truths and rumors that had been long debunked.

Ghosts of Tsushima Review thread

Knowing human nature, I'm sure that none of them mocked the social code and asked for unnecessary fights in the way the protagonist does. They would have known their limitations. That character written with authenticity would be interesting. No, they wouldn't, because they wouldn't become the...

forums.escapistmagazine.com

Really though, for someone who you consider a waste of time, it’s amazing how much time you continuously waste responding to him lol.

 

[BrawlMan]

Really though, for someone who you consider a waste of time, it’s amazing how much time you continuously waste responding to him lol.

Only when it calls for it or he says something really stupid and nonsensical. But like I said before, I'm putting my hands off right now.

 

[Ezekiel]

This is not directed at BrawlMan, since he is ignoring me again, thankfully, but I don't know why he found the statement so stupid and nonsensical. On my "Nazi forum," it sparked a debate. Not an especially intelligent one, but it was something.

https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/007-first-light-james-bond-game-from-io-interactive-coming-may-27th.135985/page-13#post-9823932

Me:

I miss good cutscenes. Cinematic storytelling became way worse when they all decided that it should be in-game as much as possible.

Metal Gear Solid trilogy may have had long cutscenes and codec conversations, but at least you were left alone in between. The run wasn't suddenly disabled and there wasn't all this sidling between walls and crap.

There's nothing impressive to me about the fake God of War being in a single camera shot, because it just limits the camerawork. It can never pull out far for scale. Boring moments can't be skipped with soft transitions by the director when there are no cut-scenes. So instead of the narrator moving things along, there's more walking and talking.

Instead of the player moving Bond as he walks and talks, they could just do a skippable cutscene of them walking and talking or sitting and talking, and the camerawork would be way more interesting than player control, which is just rotating a cam that's usually over the shoulder or too far away to emphasize gestures and expressions.

Him:

Cutscenes are pure decline for moviefXXX and normies. Videogames should be about GAMEPLAY. It’s no coincidence that the 360/PS3 era descended into pure phantasmic filth as they increasingly relied on cutscenes and scripted gameplay to carry the experience. Those games will age just as poorly as PS1 games did as time goes on. They were carried by the novelty of really good graphics…at the time…but as the consoles became increasingly underpowered, it became apparent just how hollow the experiences were.

Me:

Not all game stories can be minimalistic. James Bond certainly is not. How do you suggest they tell a Bond story with no cutscenes and none of the scripted cinematic crap that largely replaced cutscenes? The several paragraphs before each level in GoldenEye won't cut it for anything above box heads with low resolution photos plastered on. The shift to telling everything in the fake game began in earnest in the PS3 and X360 generation.

Wait, you're my enemy in this! It's because of you! You kept whining about cutscenes and pretending stories don't matter, even though it can provide such nice motivation. Or you were one of those people who said, "Video game creators should not look at movies for inspiration because that undermines the unique qualities of the medium," as if trying it the same way (your way) in every kind of game is even ideal. It's reasonable to use (skippable) video to move a story along in a video game. The gameplay of games became less pure because these games still needed stories and you wouldn't let the devs section the story off to cutscenes where it often belonged. Now we have forced walking and talking, pressing forward or key W for a while, and so much said over the protagonist's radio/phone that the player can hardly pay attention as they shoot at the bad guys.

Him:

The video refers to the fact that games are displayed on video systems. They’re not called moviegames for a reason. Games like Half-Life, Dishonored, Prey, Morrowind, FEAR, STALKER, Bioshock, etc. can deliver compelling narratives without cutscenes. Any time taken away from gameplay is pure decline unless they’re only at the beginning and end of levels in mission-based games like in DMC. Dialogue delivered in Mass Effect style format with skippable lines is also acceptable. Cutscenes and FMVs were only prevalent because game engines and tooling weren’t powerful enough to construct meaningful ways to deliver the narrative. Also stop shifting the goal posts, I never said “scripted” gameplay was inherently bad—only an over reliance on it. Emergent gameplay will always be better. Or do you think those old Call of Duty games with every second and moment being scripted are the height of the medium? That’s what I was talking about.

Me:

Naming DMC ruins your argument. The cutscenes take up significant time together and there are even some in the middle of missions, like for bosses.

I don't remember what happened in Dishonored. It was dull.

I don't want a long fake ride like the opening of Half-Life in most games.

Why do many of your games have silent protagonists? I kinda hate them. At least be a quiet man. Letting other people do all the talking for you is pathetic, because it implies you're led around and have little agency. I'm sure you'd prefer JC Denton to be another dumb mute. It makes dialogue so inorganic. Or I should say monologues, since the protagonist won't participate.

41 minutes of cutscenes.


96 minutes of cutscenes.

What are you even talking about? Being at the beginning and end of missions (and bosses) excuses it from your argument how? I guess you want DMC to have the unscary scripted horror moments of F.E.A.R. and the five minute rides of Half-Life instead of being a pure action-adventure game with cutscenes. See, your preference doesn't work for every kind of game, including the ones you name as good examples.

Another guy:

I'll take skippable cutscenes any day over slow walking sequences and the real-time jibber jabber of Half-Life 2's storytelling. They are necessary parts of the gaming experience since we advanced beyond the Atari 2600. Even some of your favorite SNES games have "cutscenes", they're just told through text boxes instead of voice acting and cinematography.

Me:

Yeah, we've had them forever, for good reason. Is this fool really gonna tell me the Ninja Gaiden cutscenes are bad? With that art style?

 

[BrawlMan]

I prefer skippable cut scenes over walking sections, but whoever you're talking with sounds just as bad as you for the most part. There's really not that much difference between you and him and it's like looking at a mirror. You just lack the self awareness like he does.

 

[Drathnoxis]

I prefer skippable cut scenes over walking sections, but whoever you're talking with sounds just as bad as you for the most part. There's really not that much difference between you and him and it's like looking at a mirror. You just lack the self awareness like he does.

Don't take such obvious bait. You managed to ignore him for all of 3 days.

 

[BrawlMan]

Don't take such obvious bait. You managed to ignore him for all of 3 days.

Noticed that I haven't said anything really bad about him. I'm just commentating on his dumb ass and conceited friend.

 

[Drathnoxis]

Noticed that I haven't said anything really bad about him. I'm just commentating on his dumb ass and conceited friend.

I didn't think the goal was to only make slight insults, I thought the goal was to put him on ignore and never read or respond to any of his posts again.

This is the button you need to click.

 

[Gordon_4]

This is not directed at BrawlMan, since he is ignoring me again, thankfully, but I don't know why he found the statement so stupid and nonsensical. On my "Nazi forum," it sparked a debate. Not an especially intelligent one, but it was something.

https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/007-first-light-james-bond-game-from-io-interactive-coming-may-27th.135985/page-13#post-9823932

Me:

Him:

Me:

Him:

Me:



Another guy:



Me:

Don’t bring drama from other sites over here. We have enough of our own.

 

[BrawlMan]

I didn't think the goal was to only make slight insults, I thought the goal was to put him on ignore and never read or respond to any of his posts again.

This is the button you need to click.
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Already been done a long time ago. I just happen to see the message of the guy he was talking about, and couldn't help but laugh and commentate. Notice how I didn't even bother acknowledging his beginning sentence.

Don’t bring drama from other sites over here. We have enough of our own.

Well said. Only further proves each other's point with actual sense and reason.

I don't care for the enemies respawn at save point mechanics, recent action games are pulling or taking from Souls games. So far I'm more so talking about Romeo Is A Deadman. It really wasn't needed and the levels should have just been more like the levels in Killer Is Dead.

For Pragmata this mechanic works better because you are at least going to the hub world and already in the safe spot when you come back. It's only when you decide the backtrack after doing so, that those enemies will respawn

 

[Ezekiel]

Don't take such obvious bait. You managed to ignore him for all of 3 days.

No bait. I genuinely was taken aback by BrawlMan's reaction, thinking that I've said much more controversial things, and wanted to show that there was discussion value in my post and how it might have went if he had responded with a little more respect. Or he could have just ignored it.

His admission here that he's reported me several times lowers my estimation of his character even more, because I know I never gave him a reason. Find one post of me insulting him when I wasn't responding in kind. Even those times were rare. I never said anything negative about a race, women, gays or trans people, despite efforts to interpret my posts that way. How vindictive.

His first response after saying he would ignore me is another insult. I shouldn't have been so nice to him.

 

[Drathnoxis]

No bait. I genuinely was taken aback by BrawlMan's reaction, thinking that I've said much more controversial things, and wanted to show that there was discussion value in my post and how it might have went if he had responded with a little more respect. Or he could have just ignored it.

His admission here that he's reported me several times lowers my estimation of his character even more, because I know I never gave him a reason. Find one post of me insulting him when I wasn't responding in kind. Even those times were rare.

Sure it was bait, bringing up Brawlman's name after he said he was going to ignore you was definitely baiting him back into the discussion, though if he did actually have you on ignore like he claims your posts should not even appear to him. I don't think there was anything wrong with your original hot take, or with the discussion you posted, though I agree with Gordon that reposting discussions to other forums is somewhat poor etiquette.

Frankly, we need to drop this discussion at this point and move on. Brawlman should actually put you on ignore and stick to it, you should not reply to Brawlman or talk about him, and everyone should refrain from complaining about other users and try to get along.