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Fijiman

I am THE PANTS!
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You know what I would love to see? I would love to see just one (preferable more, but one will do) major YouTube celebrity take a stand against all this bullshit. I would be fucking ecstatic to see at least one of them basically quit their job until YouTube stopped fucking with everything that doesn't need fucking with. If you could get several of the biggest celebs to do this the amount of pure hate that would be sent Google's way might be enough to get them to do something other than continue what they're doing now. Unfortunately, the odds of this ever happening are way too small to even hope for.
 

Something Amyss

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TheSniperFan said:
So if little Timmy wants to rape the CoD-developer's wife over him changing some stats of his fav. weapon, it would help if his daddy finds out and takes away his Xbox for some time.
For the record, I'm not ignoring the rest of your post, it's just long and I wanted to get to the point I wanted to make.

The thing with behaviour is that there actually needs to be some grounds for modification. As you agree, people who act like dicks on the internet tend to do so without fear of repercussion with or without their real names tied. This is in part because, in reality, they get away with it.

This isn't to say I missed your point, mind, I just don't agree with it. Well, I agree with it in some respects, as if people started doing something about it maybe things would change. But your examples are of people who weren't ashamed because they did it, they were ashamed because they got caught. I bet in the cases where people got back, they're back to their same old.

That's the thing with enforcement. Someone needs to act, and the internet knows it's impractical to act in every case. YouTube isn't going to start calling up kids' parents because their kids are screaming hate speech, and for the most part, you're not going to see any sort of action from other companies. The boss example is one that happens because the boss is directly involved. This sends the message of "don't ***** about your boss where s/he could read it."

If Timmy threatens rape over CoD, he should probably be punished by his parents. But first they need to find out, which is unlikely on the internet (even with names) and then his parents have to do something, which doesn't seem to be all that common.

It's like internet piracy. The RIAA/MPAA/whoever know they can't stop everyone, so they try and scare people out of it with exaggerated threats and massive lawsuits against some token targets. The rest of the internet knows the odds are long against them getting caught, and keep it up.

You know what else happens when you use real names on the internet, though?

Harassment.

You see, this swings both ways. I just watched a video the other day where a transwoman talked about people who didn't like her videos tracking her down at her place of work. Guess why that's possible. I mean, you can still find people's info out otherwise, so it maybe would have happened to some degree, but this makes it waaaay easier.

And you know what? I'm reticent to post anything about my political/religious stances and sexuality tied to my real name because that can hurt my business. It doesn't stop the people who are problems, though. They're still threatening to rape people.
 

Dragonbums

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You want to know how to increase more meaningful comments and discussions on Youtube?

Fucking expand on the character limits.
Seriously.

500 characters ain't going to cut it.

Also, Youtube, for the last fucking time. no. I don't want to use my real name on my goddamn Youtube account.
 

ThunderCavalier

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CpT_x_Killsteal said:
Did they just say that Youtube had meaningful conversations?
AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

Also, I'm not going to like anything Youtube does until it fixes it's recommended videos and... well the videos in general. Half the time I have to refresh the bloody page because it freezes all the god damn time.
Yep. Aside from the 0.01% chance that you'll actually find decent conversations in YouTube comments (and only on specialized videos tailored to a specific community, like Touhou stuff or Creepypasta), comments are, for the most part, either praise, hate, or random gibberish. More of the last one if it's a really popular personality.

I wish Google would just enable a YouTube classic feature. I thought that YouTube worked perfectly well back when I first visited the site in, what, 2007?
 

Drummodino

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You know I'm all for changing YouTube comments. As they are now they're fucking terrible. That said stop with this Google+ shit Google! I don't want it and I don't want my real name on my YouTube account! Is that too much to ask?

Please, as a Google fan, stop this shit.
 

CpT_x_Killsteal

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ThunderCavalier said:
CpT_x_Killsteal said:
Did they just say that Youtube had meaningful conversations?
AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

Also, I'm not going to like anything Youtube does until it fixes it's recommended videos and... well the videos in general. Half the time I have to refresh the bloody page because it freezes all the god damn time.
Yep. Aside from the 0.01% chance that you'll actually find decent conversations in YouTube comments (and only on specialized videos tailored to a specific community, like Touhou stuff or Creepypasta), comments are, for the most part, either praise, hate, or random gibberish. More of the last one if it's a really popular personality.

I wish Google would just enable a YouTube classic feature. I thought that YouTube worked perfectly well back when I first visited the site in, what, 2007?
Funny you should mention that because you actually COULD do that a year ago. There was a way to change to one of the previous formats.

However, YouTube has """patched""" that now, so we're stuck with bugged videos and a homepage that is a ridiculous mess.
 

Callate

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I agree that it was a fair point that something needed to be done about the amount of flaming and trolling in the Youtube comments. I'm not sure as written if what they're doing is, well, that thing. I recognize that some people think that anonymity is the source for all internet ire, or at least the shield which all that ire hides behind, but I'm not entirely convinced- nor certain that having users' information unified under a common identity, however great for Google itself, isn't offering those who really do wish to flame/troll/harass/threaten people who create videos a much broader means to do so.

"Oh, great. Now that I know your gmail account, I can sign it up for penis enhancement drug offers and use my ten anonymous hotmail accounts to send you threats and obscenities. Win!"
 

Elvis Starburst

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Someone out there needs to make a site that is like YouTube in the good old days, and make that popular. Make everyone flock there instead. I agree that Google is not the right kind of people to make a good site like this, and ever since they took over, it's been seriously fucked. Who's with me? Who wants to make a good site? :3

Edit: To all of the people who complain about having to use your real name, just use a name that SOUNDS real, but isn't your own. I mean, I didn't use my real name, but they accepted Eraldo as the first name easily. It's just a matter of choosing a different identity to go by on there. It's an easy work-around
 

Strazdas

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MinionJoe said:
Strazdas said:
I actually spent 2 hours yesterday trying to find a way to contact or send support ticked about their Google Play, as they essentialy rendered any my purchases useless.
Damn. You have my sympathies.

This probably won't help, but YouTube support is [email protected]
Yeah, youtube has open support, google paly however seems to have none.

SO i watched couple of Total Bisquit videos yesterday to see what he has to say about coming to escapist Expo and he touched youtube comments which he seems to like. what is this! somone agreed with me!

Capcha: live in the now.
seriuosly....

Dragonbums said:
You want to know how to increase more meaningful comments and discussions on Youtube?

Fucking expand on the character limits.
Seriously.

500 characters ain't going to cut it.

Also, Youtube, for the last fucking time. no. I don't want to use my real name on my goddamn Youtube account.
very true. i woudl somones do a 3 comments in a row to express a single thought. damn character limits!
 

Demonjazz

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I can't help but laugh at how they say "They want to encourage meaningful conversations" when the youtube make over made half of the comments be flooded with Bob needs your help take down Google+