Youtube Policy is changing the rules for monetize again! Chaos! PANIC! UPDATED AGAIN!!!!

[RaikuFA]

I wonder if pewdiepie will be affected by this. Seems he curses a lot yet brings in the most viewers each day.

 

[Mangod]

Just curious; will they remove ads for horror movies, or war movies, or political dramas?

Also, doesn't Youtube have age restrictions?

Also also, shouldn't it be the advertisers who pick who and what they want their products associated with?

 

[Saelune]

I wonder if pewdiepie will be affected by this. Seems he curses a lot yet brings in the most viewers each day.

He is why I am hopeful it wont last. I hate him, but YouTube practically made Red just to give him more money. He doesn't care much about other creators, but maybe when he gets hit with it, he will actually do something.

Or just retire to his mansion.

 

[Qizx]

This is not censorship. People are still more than welcome to create such content - they just wont get paid for it.

If you rely solely on your Youtube income to survive, then you've got bigger things to worry about than your "content haven". Perhaps getting a real job would be right up your alley.

If a newspaper had its ads pulled and lost all its revenue because they report on human rights violations, would you say "well you're welcome to create that content, you just won't get paid for it"? Or a tv station? A radio station?

Also, how is being a youtuber reporting on real world news not a "real" job? People used to found newspapers back in the day to report on things, and they relied on outside monetary support, ie. advertising, to cover their costs. How is founding a youtube channel to report on things and relying on outside monetary support, ie. ads, to cover their costs so fundamentally different?

You're sitting in front of your webcam in your studio apartment desperately trying to find an edge or a hook to your hard-cut "journalism". There's slim to no integrity too it, and if they wanted to actually report news in a professional and adequate way, they'd apply to school, get a proper journalistic degree and find an outlet that allows them to do just that.

But to think of them as actual reporters..? Sit down.

I'd say between the news saying "Who is this 4chan!?" among other phenomenally uneducated things I've lost almost all my respect for "Actual reporters." Then again this is the people on the TV, there are still amazing journalists out there, but on the big stream TV, most of them are blithering idiots.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

SNIP

But legality is a thing. And it is their business and their money. No content creator is simply entitled to money simply because they post videos on YouTube. YouTube is the internet equivalent of public access television, and they get to pick who they have on and who gets paid.

I'm not saying they're right for doing this. In fact I find the guideline to be ham-handed and archaic. But I'm not against the idea of guidelines as a concept nor am I against the idea of YouTube demonetizing videos they feel break their guidelines. It still is their business, their money and no one should have based their entire income off of what boiled down to the charity of a large corporation.

 

[Saelune]

SNIP

But legality is a thing. And it is their business and their money. No content creator is simply entitled to money simply because they post videos on YouTube. YouTube is the internet equivalent of public access television, and they get to pick who they have on and who gets paid.

I'm not saying they're right for doing this. In fact I find the guideline to be ham-handed and archaic. But I'm not against the idea of guidelines as a concept nor am I against the idea of YouTube demonetizing videos they feel break their guidelines. It still is their business, their money and no one should have based their entire income off of what boiled down to the charity of a large corporation.

Like how TV also relies on Ad revenue? Yeah, they can "do what they want" and they can suffer for it, and I certainly hope YouTube doesn't drag too many down with it.

 

[Fox12]

Oh, they can absolutely make some money. I'm in no way disputing that. But you're doing everyone a disservice by referring to them as reporters or journalists. Similar to how I would never refer to myself as a carpenter for putting up an IKEA bookshelf.

Sit down.

Did I refer to them as reporters or journalists? No? Then what are you talking about?

I was criticizing your decision to insult other people's jobs because you're presumably dissatisfied stocking shelves at IKEA.

Sit down. On a nail.

 

[RaikuFA]

I wonder if pewdiepie will be affected by this. Seems he curses a lot yet brings in the most viewers each day.

He is why I am hopeful it wont last. I hate him, but YouTube practically made Red just to give him more money. He doesn't care much about other creators, but maybe when he gets hit with it, he will actually do something.

Or just retire to his mansion.

I think he just started a new show. Kinda dumb to put the kibosh on it at the first sign of danger.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

Freedom of press. I also have the freedom to practice carpentry, but that doesn't make me one by default whenever I pick up a hammer.

Sit down.

If you want to be something, it's as simple as just being it.

THe quality of your ability and legality to be a carpenter can be debated, but so long as you call yourself a carpenter you are one.

Do you not feel that undermines and misleads people by claiming a title or asking others to refer to you as such? I could tell someone to take some aspirin and boom guess what, I'm a doctor. Sure, I may not have spent 8 years in med school, but I'm a doctor.

Sit. Down.

I haven't published anything yet, but I'm a writer, so no I don't feel it misleads anyone at all.

A doctor without a medical degree is still a doctor, by definition, if they choose to doctor. Like those ones in movies that take the bullets out of gangsters in back allys.


And I'll stand, thank you.

 

[McElroy]

I wonder if pewdiepie will be affected by this. Seems he curses a lot yet brings in the most viewers each day.

He is why I am hopeful it wont last. I hate him, but YouTube practically made Red just to give him more money. He doesn't care much about other creators, but maybe when he gets hit with it, he will actually do something.

Or just retire to his mansion.

Hehe, that makes you sound jelly af

OT: As a person who uses- I mean just closes his eyes everytime he sees an online ad, this doesn't concern me, as in my eyes are not affected by these ads anyway. Sucks for someone like Cr1tik4l or HowToBasic. Hilariously stupid imo (the policy, those two I mentioned are only stupidly hilarious).

 

[GrumbleGrump]

As much as I would like that the SJWs were to blame here, they're not. It's just a dumbass corporate decision in order to not have whatever the fuck they sell to you associated with rape/war/murder/closeups of Gabriel Morton.

 

[Saelune]

I wonder if pewdiepie will be affected by this. Seems he curses a lot yet brings in the most viewers each day.

He is why I am hopeful it wont last. I hate him, but YouTube practically made Red just to give him more money. He doesn't care much about other creators, but maybe when he gets hit with it, he will actually do something.

Or just retire to his mansion.

Hehe, that makes you sound jelly af

OT: As a person who uses- I mean just closes his eyes everytime he sees an online ad, this doesn't concern me, as in my eyes are not affected by these ads anyway. Sucks for someone like Cr1tik4l or HowToBasic. Hilariously stupid imo (the policy, those two I mentioned are only stupidly hilarious).

I just think he is a hypocrite. While I know not every "big youtuber" is loaded as some think, he is. He acts like he doesn't care about the money, but his actions don't show that. If he would perhaps use his money and influence on youtube to help smaller channels who don't have anything close to what he has, Id be less critical, but he could so a lot and seems to choose not to.

Plus YouTube Red is terrible, and it only really helps people like him.

That's not to say I wouldn't mind being rich playing video games, but Id imagine most people here would feel the same.

 

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

I know people are claiming that youtube are targeting videos based on ideology. If that's true, I'll join in the outrage. As it stands... We just knew this was going to happen, right? I'm utterly unsurprised.

Well, considering Youtube has built its reputation as a free platform for anyone anywhere to talk about anything and post anything short of porn, snuff videos, doxxing and such, I don't think this kind of move was entirely to be expected. Fuck, Youtube's most subscribed channel is a guy who's made jokes about rape, often swears copiously and has played some of the goriest games in existence. To think they now would suddenly go "oh, we want to be family friendly" is just fucking retarded. It'd be like a news station suddenly deciding their whole programming is going to consist only of the lighthearted end segments.

One of the most fucked up things to come out of this is that youtuber who went to North Korea and made a vlog series about it focusing only on the positive will not be affected in any way. Those videos will stay monetized, whereas videos discussing politics, mental health, sexual assault, feminism, racism, anything the like, will get hit. So what is basically North Korean propaganda is okay, but criticizing feminism, that's a no-no. Fuck fucking fuckety fuck fuck fuck.

Only the kind of big-meany that no business would ever want to even vaguely be associated with would ever criticise feminism.

I always felt like this was the logical end-result of the set-up. If I can sell advertising space on my forum posts you can expect them to suddenly become completely milquetoast. Unrelated... Is anyone else thirsty? How about a Gatorade? Available at a store near you.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

MundaneMatt has a good video about this. Basically he just points out YouTube's policy has been in place for over a year and smaller channels have been getting hit and no one cared. And the only reason people care now is because Philip Defranco and Boogie are complaining about their videos.

 

[Kina]

The truth is that basing your entire income off YouTube ads is a poor business model and was doomed from the start. It was a bubble, and the fact YouTube even paid content creators was more of a favor than an actual commission project. And it was based entirely on marketability, not personality or content. I think some creators got too involved with themselves and forgot they aren't getting paid for how awesome and smart and clever and kewl they are, they're getting paid for how marketable they are.

And as the people who buy the ads, companies are fully within their rights to pick and choose what channels they're associated with. Basically if you think it was okay for Speedo to drop that swimmer guy because of the stories about him, then you have no right to complain about YouTube demonetizing videos they don't like.

Also its not censorship. Not in any way. No one is stopping anyone from producing videos and saying what they want. YouTube is just going to stop paying them to do so, which is their right to do.

100% right. All of it.

Content is king, and if you have a show on Youtube with a solid amount of followers and you don't like the set of guidelines given to you, set up a Patreon or find another way to monetize your content elsewhere. Simple as that. I don't understand where people get off feeling entitled to the money in the first place.

 

[Captain Marvelous_v1legacy]

Well this is... interesting. So, YouTube is effectively giving the finger to a large chunk of content creators. Wont Google lose money off of this? They're effectively telling their content creators to stop creating content. If they can't make money off of it, then what the hell is the point anymore? The amount of content on YouTube is going to take a nose dive, and YouTube will make dramatically less in the process. Maybe Google just wants to get rid of YouTube. They honestly shouldn't have bought the damn thing in the first place. Every time they do a thing, every time they breathe, they just piss everyone off. God dammit, Google.

 

[bartholen_v1legacy]

Sit down.

Sit down.

Sit down.

Good luck, and please sit down.

Why do you keep putting that at the end of your posts? It comes off as incredibly smug, disrespectful and condescending. Please stop it.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

MundaneMatt has a good video about this. Basically he just points out YouTube's policy has been in place for over a year and smaller channels have been getting hit and no one cared. And the only reason people care now is because Philip Defranco and Boogie are complaining about their videos.

My feeling is from watching Phil the past month or so he didn't know, or he would've been getting on the rooftops about this. He seems pretty passionate about the youtube community there and wants to see it continue to grow.

 

[Naraku578]

Why would they do this they already have Youtube for kids. How much do you guys wana bet that CNN, FOX, CBS, BBC do not get demonetized.