Youtube terminates Teamfourstar.

[Worgen]

I was just was checking my subscribed channels and it looks like youtube terminated the teamfourstar account because of multiple copywrite strikes. Fortunately they still have a site you can go to, so their work isn't lost but youtube has been pulling a lot of this shit lately. Are there any better video streaming sites around?

Update: Teamfourstar's channel has been restored. Some vids are still down but they are on top of it.

 

[kiri3tsubasa]

Funimation had nothing to do with this. It is all but certain to be false DMCA claims by a third party.

 

[axlryder]

Here we go again. If I didn't know better I'd say they're exclusively targeting channels I watch on the regular. Thankfully they are the largest channel that's recently fallen victim to this scourge of false copyright claims, so hopefully they'll be up and running again soon

 

[Xeorm]

Heh, do a google search for Team Four Star to see who they were (DBZ abridged and other abridged series) are high up there, along with this tweet:

FUNIMATION IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CLAIMS.
FUNIMATION IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CLAIMS.
FUNIMATION IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CLAIMS.

https://twitter.com/teamfourstar/status/702326627649216513

So yea, looks like false claims. Joyous. Isn't the law great?

 

[Scarim Coral]

This isn't the first time it has happened so it may or may not be restored given to the whole thing going on with Youtube at the moment.

 

[Neverhoodian]

Talk about concidence; I just started re-watching DBZ Abridged a few days ago. Good thing their website isn't bound to Youtube's shitty "shoot first, ask questions later" policy.

Youtube can't really help this. If they switch to a 'complainant provides proof' system, they'd be shut down by the copyright mafia themselves. This abuse of the copyright system can't really be prevented, but you can of course sue the party filing the false strikes. It is a form of fraud after all.

But as long as people don't do that, killing off your competition or your critics (looking at you feminists) using false copyright strikes is an appealing tactic because it carries no penalties for yourself.

Which is all the more reason why the copyright system is broken and needs serious revision...but that's not going to happen as long as ruthless media giants like Disney, Warner and Viacom have their way.

I'm no expert in "legalese," but would it be possible to implement a system where those who file copyright claims are automatically slapped with a hefty fine if said claims are proven to be false? It would require more legwork on Youtube's part, but at this point hiring some real people to at least try to monitor this stuff is the least they could do. Even if only a fraction of offenders were fined it would still be a powerful deterrent.

 

[Fox12]

Youtube can't really help this. If they switch to a 'complainant provides proof' system, they'd be shut down by the copyright mafia themselves. This abuse of the copyright system can't really be prevented, but you can of course sue the party filing the false strikes. It is a form of fraud after all.

But as long as people don't do that, killing off your competition or your critics (looking at you feminists) using false copyright strikes is an appealing tactic because it carries no penalties for yourself.

How does that work with international law, though? Sure, I can sue someone for making a false claim of it affects my livelihood, but is that only for America? I imagine that it would be complicated by a Japanese anime studio, or a foreign video game publisher. Copyright law is such a complex legal mess, I'm not even sure how one would go about fixing it.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

From what I heard on TFS's Facebook, Toei Animation launched the claims that took out their YouTube.
EDIT: That's what I get for not looking at dates. Still, given their history, I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Worgen]

Doug Walker of nostagiacritic fame had a pretty good vid about this sort of thing since it seems to be hitting a ton of channels lately.

 

[gigastar]

Doug Walker of nostagiacritic fame had a pretty good vid about this sort of thing since it seems to be hitting a ton of channels lately.

Theres also this from MundaneMatt who started a Thunderclap to try and get an answer out of Youtube;

And an update video posted yesterday;

And this from Jim Sterling not even an hour ago;

 

[Mr.Mattress]

Man, even though I'm not a fan of Anime in general, and I only ever saw Dragon Ball Z as a little kid when it was on 90's Toonami, I really do enjoy Dragon Ball Z Abridged. Youtube really needs to fix it's Copyright Claim problems. I'm certain they'll be back (I Hate Everything suffered the same problem earlier this year and he's back now), and if they aren't, that'd be tremendously terrible for Youtube.

#WTFU
#WheresTheFairUse?
#MakeYoutubeGreatAgain

 

[Something Amyss]

Which is all the more reason why the copyright system is broken and needs serious revision...but that's not going to happen as long as ruthless media giants like Disney, Warner and Viacom have their way.

Sheppie's literally wrong here. The incentive for YouTube is financial. They actually have legal grounds to shift the system, and legal backing. But automated claim handling and favouring the claimant are literally the path of least resistance. YouTube and Google, being corporations with an interest in making massive stacks of money first, are a huge part of the problem.

 

[Fappy]

It's probably Toei. Those fuckheads go after sub groups too. We wouldn't need sub groups if they would pull their heads out of their asses and simulcast Super in the west like everyone else does these days. Also, the fact that they haven't signed the dub over to Funi yet is mindbogglingly stupid. They do realize Funimation is 90% of the reason DBZ is as popular as it is in the US, don't they?

EDIT: The biggest Youtubers in the business should pool their resources, build a dev team and finance a streaming platform to compete with Youtube. The only reason this is happening is because they have a monopoly and see no reason to make the changes people are demanding.

Also, if Youtube is really fucking over their content creators this bad there should be some kind of legal or contractual recourse they can take. A lot of them are associated with Disney, so I imagine if this gets bad enough Youtube will have some big wig lawyers breathing down its neck.

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

And this from Jim Sterling not even an hour ago;

Figured he was going to do it. Going to have to watch it when I'm in a place where I can listen.

OT: It happens a lot to them. The more often this happens to high-profile folks, the less it seems Youtube is changing (or at least changing for the better). <.<

 

[CrazyGirl17]

The more I hear about the frequent copyright claims, the more incensed I get. I think it's about time we have a class-action lawsuit... We have to do something to stop the big companies from taking over, right?

#WTFU

 

[CrazyCapnMorgan]

There's a lot of commotion all over YouTube now about #WTFU. The three big names that I've yet to hear opinions about this are TotalBiscuit, AngryJoe and, of course, PewDiePie. I'm still unsure if Google and YouTube would do anything in response, though. The only things that would get their attention is any one or combination of: a humongous class action lawsuit, mass exodus of creators and content or a complete reworking of copyright laws in the US.

I don't expect either of these to happen anytime soon, though.

 

[The Bucket]

The more I hear about the frequent copyright claims, the more incensed I get. I think it's about time we have a class-action lawsuit... We have to do something to stop the big companies from taking over, right?

#WTFU

How could you have a class action lawsuit over it? As wrong as they might be, I dont see how Youtube isnt perfectly legally entitled to choose whatever content they let on their platform

 

[Something Amyss]

EDIT: The biggest Youtubers in the business should pool their resources, build a dev team and finance a streaming platform to compete with Youtube. The only reason this is happening is because they have a monopoly and see no reason to make the changes people are demanding.

While this is true, one of the main reasons for that is the massive scope necessary here. I'm going to bet the top content creators pooling their resources would still be a fart in a stiff breeze.

 

[NeutralDrow]

Wait, really? I can still see their stuff on Youtube, and their channel is still there. There's some videos missing (like episode 52), but is that part of it?

 

[CaitSeith]

The more I hear about the frequent copyright claims, the more incensed I get. I think it's about time we have a class-action lawsuit... We have to do something to stop the big companies from taking over, right?

#WTFU

How could you have a class action lawsuit over it? As wrong as they might be, I dont see how Youtube isnt perfectly legally entitled to choose whatever content they let on their platform

Simple: false content ID claims strip the video creator from their revenue and give them to the claiming party while the claim is being disputed (and the video is still generating views in this case). Once all is cleared up, that money is never returned to the video creator.