gamegod25 said:
Therumancer said:
Someone like "Angry Joe" finds it more in their interest to back down and keep making money from other things than to seriously fight.
Uhh and just how else exactly is he supposed to "fight" back? It's not like he can take legal action since, while a shitty thing to do, Nintendo does have the legal right deny using their content. All Joe can do is either take a hit and surrender part of the video revenue (and/or effectively work for Nintendo) or to boycott the games entirely. He can raise awareness and call Nintendo out for it (which he and others have already done) but that's pretty much all that can be done about it. I suppose they could makes signs and protest outside of NOA or something but I doubt that would be any more effective.
Well, he could do pretty much what I suggested and find ways to do his show extra-legally by moving off Youtube or other sites and doing whatever he can to otherwise stay off the grid IRL. For an established personality this is difficult of course, but not entirely impossible. The big reason you won't see that happen is because of the money and the fact that he, like a lot of other similar personalities, have become almost mainstream and complacent which is what has made them vulnerable to these kinds of tactics to begin with. Due to making money he'll of course wind up capitulating to whatever Nintendo demands like he's doing now, they gave him one of two choices, do things on their terms or not cover them, he chose not to cover them. If he was of course to go back to doing this kind of thing as a hobby like when he first started he'd be much harder to target. He could say put his videos up on torrent sites or anyone willing to host him from outside the country, move to Mexico or Europe or someplace where it will likely to be a pain in the arse to extradite him (basically I don't see Nintendo pushing things that far, and if they did he could always go someplace where there isn't an extradition treaty) he could of course perhaps make some revenue through something like Patreon or other donation sites, but it wouldn't be as reliable as being paid for X number of hits by advertisers through a well known site.
Yes, what I am describing is kind of extreme but the point is that it could be done. At the end of the day Joe wants an easy time of things (like most people) which is what Nintendo is relying on. He's pretty much bending over and spreading his cheeks for them despite the defiant smack he talks. After all he's not stopping his coverage on his own terms, he's doing what they tell him to do on their terms so as to minimize how much it effects the rather sweet deal he's got right now by pretty much supporting himself talking smack about geekly topics. He'd rather bend over for Nintendo and take it than compromise that, and no amount of smack talking is going to change what he's doing, it's almost guaranteed Nintendo expected this kind of response when it put these policies into force. At the end of the day even if people don't like what Nintendo does, they are still going to line up for the new Mario or Zelda. That's one of the big problems with dealing with the gaming industry as a whole, it can be nearly impossible to influence because as "toxic" as gamers might get they still buy the product. Of course it also helps that the only way to genuinely tell if a game is good or not is to buy it, by which point the industry has your money so it doesn't much matter if they handed you crap. This is especially true of brand name franchises where they can usually turn out multiple bad installments without any long term effects since it only takes a good, or mediocre one, to redeem any bad blood they might generate. At this point a company like Ubisoft can poop out the same games much like Nintendo does and guarantee a revenue stream even if some of them wind up lacking. I've honestly wondering if Nintendo could REALLY kill it's flagship brands if it tried, since even if they literally had people with Irritible Bowel Syndrome pooping in boxes, there would be die hard fans still following it just in case it gets good again. Look at Sonic for example, it's like an undying zombie, no matter how bad it gets there is enough of a fan base holding on "just in case", deviant art alone probably shows an unspeakably entrenched fan base despite some of the games being borderline insults.... the point I'm getting at is Nintendo doesn't care what Angry Joe or fans think of them. Mostly I imagine they are POed because they see someone making money they don't have a cut or control of, and really at this point they get nothing positive from it, merely some slight tremers of annoyance if he costs them a few sales, but it's borderline impossible for anyone to do enough damage.
