I love it how youre saying GTA4 is a bad game. I myself didnt catch that fully untill I played Saints Row 2. I was playing GTA4 as any earlier GTA game and thought to myself that I was grown too old for that GTA kind of humor, I wasnt laughing when I drove over people, the radio stations werent that funny, and I didnt find much joy in becoming a crime boss.. then I played Saints Row 2 and it hit me like a ton of bricks.. GTA4 sucks as a GTA4 game, Saints Row 2 became the game I was expecting GTA4 to be. I love your brutal honesty Mr. Yahtzee, and would love to see what other game sites would say about GTA4 if they would take a second knock at it.