Zero Punctuation: Call of Duty: Black Ops 2

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catalyst8 said:
Because Whites are never the victims of racism. Oh, wait:
'That?s makes 4 attacks that we know of so far related to blacks engaging in lynch mob mentality to attack whites because they feel "justified".'
http://thegraph.com/2012/04/another-white-man-critically-beaten-20-black-racist-thugs-assault-him-citing-justice-for-trayvon/
Holy shit! 4 Attacks!? Maybe even more? That seems ridiculous.
 

mjc0961

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Yeah, the plot twist wasn't even a plot twist really. A plot twist is supposed to be something unexpected, and I knew who it was the moment they pulled a guy with a bag on his head out for you to shoot.

First of all, the mission is in the past. It's already been established in the future missions that the guy they SAY is the one you're shooting is already alive, so it is clearly NOT that guy. So right away I started trying to figure out who it actually is. Actually that's a lie, I didn't even have to think about it. Right away I said aloud "It's Mason". In every other past mission you play as Mason, but this time you play as Woods instead for what at first appeared to be no apparent reason but was made insanely obvious as soon as they brought out "Menendez" and told you to shoot him in the head. But even though you'd been playing as Woods, Mason was right there with you for the entire mission, EXCEPT the part where they tell you to shoot bag-on-head guy as he has suddenly vanished. And of course Hudson is randomly being a complete **** on the radio for no apparent reason. Even Mason and Woods say they're not sure they trust him (and yet they keep listening, idiots).

So yeah Treyarch, next time you want to do a surprise protagonist execution, don't make it so fucking obvious. ...Unless you wanted it to be obvious all along, in which case good job I guess...?

That said, yeah, more spunkgargleweewee, no reason to play it. Was far more fun to watch someone else play it on YouTube than it has ever been for me to actually play any previous CoD game.
 

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My friends and I decided the only thing that would make this game good was if the USS Barack Obama was a playable character in zombies (kind of like how JFK, Kissinger, and Castro were).
 

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I might disagree with his points,but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy the entertainement he brings with every video.

Had some fantastic laughs with this one.
 

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Gearhead mk2 said:
CentralScrtnzr said:
There's a theme that's become more and more apparent lately in Yahtzee's work--mean-spirit towards the US, hatred of all things particularly associated with the US, false association of guns with gun-nuts.

Anyways, I got bored and had to do something else.
In fairness, when America stops making midless racist pro-imperlist America Fuck Yeah games where the main goal is to protect America from any arab or russian that looks at the US funny, he'll probably stop complaning about them.
No he won't. Go watch the Killzone 3 review. We got a bitchfest about how changing the name of "USA" to "ISA" isn't clever and that having British Nazis makes no sense as the British were allies in WW2, which would have made sense if not for the fact that Guerrilla Games, the developers of Killzone, are fucking Dutch.

Or just go watch the Uncharted reviews. If games don't actually contain racism "fuck yeah" whatever, he'll just pretend they do and ***** the game out for it anyway.
 

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Father Time said:
Blachman201 said:
catalyst8 said:
Because Whites are never the victims of racism. Oh, wait:
'That?s makes 4 attacks that we know of so far related to blacks engaging in lynch mob mentality to attack whites because they feel "justified".'
http://thegraph.com/2012/04/another-white-man-critically-beaten-20-black-racist-thugs-assault-him-citing-justice-for-trayvon/
You can throw up all the cherrypicked right wing rag articles about "reverse racism" and "scary black people" you like. It isn't in any way comparable to institutionalized racism, still inherent in the Western system as it was build by the white man and by far and large still works in favor for him both on the small and large scale.

You are just using stuff like that an convenient excuse to ignore this fact (and doesn't it sort of imply you believe one wrong justifies another?)
This conversation is always the same

A: There's no racism against whites
B: Here's an example of racism against whites
A: *Moves the goalposts and plays oppression olympics*
It's all about framing. Anything can be made to sound ridiculous and petty if the debaters are skilled enough at rhetoric.

In any case, regardless of what side one is on, logic means nothing. You can lead a horse to water, and that sort of thing. It takes a change of heart, one way or the other, to change ones mind. So, whatever rhetorical strains one makes, trying to contort every single amount of potential influence, as though to jedi mind trick the other side into accepting your righteousness, it won't work if they won't listen. Otherwise it'd be easy to evangelize.
 

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erttheking said:
Gearhead mk2 said:
ARCTIC_EAGLE said:
Dude. Either you're a horribly unfunny troll, or you're the kind of moron that actually enjoys spunkgargleweewee. Either way, you're not welcxome here. Either play Spec Ops: The Line and get some perspective, or get out.

Also, I know this is a Halo song, but I still feel this is apropos given your attitude.
Insulting people for actually enjoying a type of game? That's completely uncalled for man. Come on.

OT: Eh...no offense Yahtzee, but that review was bland as Hell. Didn't laugh once. Also I kinda feel like there's a bit of a mob mentality going on around here with Yahtzee ranting about how much he hates modern warfare games and the people that play them and everyone going into a frenzy agreeing how much it sucks and insulting everyone that disagrees with them. It's rather unpleasant and kinda sickening.
It happens with every game he reviews unless he praises it; the attitude isn't just because people hate CoD, its because Yatzee shares the same opinions as them so they feel like they have a license to be as nasty as they want to be. Happened in the Halo 4 review as well.

Honestly I tend to feel rather uncomfortable around these games as they do have a ton of gun porn and xenophobic tendencies. I know that there is no proof, but I feel like there is a hidden agenda.
 
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Father Time said:
This conversation is always the same

A: There's no racism against whites
B: Here's an example of racism against whites
A: *Moves the goalposts and plays oppression olympics*
Don't be willfully dense. You can't compare racism on a low level to institutionalized racism.
 

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Blachman201 said:
catalyst8 said:
Because Whites are never the victims of racism. Oh, wait:
'That?s makes 4 attacks that we know of so far related to blacks engaging in lynch mob mentality to attack whites because they feel "justified".'
http://thegraph.com/2012/04/another-white-man-critically-beaten-20-black-racist-thugs-assault-him-citing-justice-for-trayvon/
You can throw up all the cherrypicked right wing rag articles about "reverse racism" and "scary black people" you like. It isn't in any way comparable to institutionalized racism, still inherent in the Western system as it was build by the white man and by far and large still works in favor for him both on the small and large scale.

You are just using stuff like that an convenient excuse to ignore this fact (and doesn't it sort of imply you believe one wrong justifies another?)
Citation needed.

Catalyst made a claim, backed it up with evidence. You said, "Nuh uh, you're wrong and racist," while providing absolutely no evidence to back your claims up. So unless you have proof that, "institutionalised racism is still inherent in the Western system," then Catalyst has a superior argument.
 

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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Maybe because over the last century, no country is responsible for more civilian deaths across the globe as the United States. In fact, it isn't even close.

Maybe it's that over the last decade, the US destroyed two entire counties, with civilian death tolls in excess of 300,000 between Iraq and Afghanistan, due to the actions of a group estimated to have 1,500 members? An action that has caused lasting political backlash across Europe, leading the overwhelming majority of British, French, and German citizens to say that they would vote for Obama over Romney because Romney shared a party with Bush Jr.

Maybe its the conflicts around the globe that the US has destabilized a growing nation because of financial or political reasons, including Nicaragua, Panama, Bosnia, Kosovo, and Libya. Or that we financed and paid known terrorists in Afghanistan in the 1980's to fight the evil communists.

Or that the US is the largest Theocracy in the world, without the balls to admit as such? Or that the US was the last first-world country to abolish Slavery? Or that the US is one of the few first-world countries without universal homosexual rights?

There is plenty of reason to hate on the US, especially on the field of battle.
Now I feel just embarrased that I forgot all of that. Mostly the cold war stuff because its the most recent (remember, both sides were equally dicks throughout it all, which is A LOT of shit).

Yeah, carry on Yahtzee.
 

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Blachman201 said:
Father Time said:
This conversation is always the same

A: There's no racism against whites
B: Here's an example of racism against whites
A: *Moves the goalposts and plays oppression olympics*
Don't be willfully dense. You can't compare racism on a low level to institutionalized racism.
Just to be clear, so that there is no vagueness in terms:

Would you say that a lack of privilege, as well as institutionalized racism, can mitigate responsibility for a 'low level' act of racism, or other crime?