Zero Punctuation: Fable 3
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
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Not first (yes, irony), but why are those your only two options in the game? Why are the only paths to fighting the monstrosity paying it off or letting everyone die? I'd be throwing my money into finding ways to do away with the thing besides killing it by lobbing gold bars at it. It seems like a failure of imagination on the part of Peter Molyneux... something that would turn me even further off from playing this game (don't have the right console, sorry).
Not as funny as usual but good nonetheless.
My hopes for Fable 3 (I live in the past so I haven't played it yet...) have been slightly crushed but I'll still probably try it out.
My hopes for Fable 3 (I live in the past so I haven't played it yet...) have been slightly crushed but I'll still probably try it out.
i knew there was something after the old king was overthrown but i had no idea THAT is was happens
Yahtzee, you are officially my hero. The ending was what pissed me off the most about Fable III. I mean as useless as the NPCs were, they at least made the world seem somewhat alive, and I can't help but feel that Peter Molyneux seems very bad at deciding what to do with his NPCs. Anyway, loved the review more than ever, and I don't say that lightly!
Yahtzee, you are officially my hero. The ending was what pissed me off the most about Fable III. I mean as useless as the NPCs were, they at least made the world seem somewhat alive, and I can't help but feel that Peter Molyneux seems very bad at deciding what to do with his NPCs. Anyway, loved the review more than ever, and I don't say that lightly!
Huh. Now, I feel glad that I didn't buy the game. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Fable, and I thought Fable 2 was decent, but I suspected that Fable 3 would pretty much be the same as Fable 2, and it looks like I was right. Plus, I just finished playing one game where a Lovecraftian monstrosity turns out to be the final boss FOR NO ADEQUATELY EXPLAINED REASON, so I guess I dodged a bullet there.
Honestly, the Fable games have an interesting premise, and they fill the rpg-comedy niche well sometimes, but if you don't innovate sufficiently between games, then they're not going to sell (unless you have a massive fanbase like Halo, but even then it feels like you're cheating your fans).
If Fable threw out the good-evil axis for a truly open moral choice system that relied on consequences instead of arbitrary points (and made the game like 20 hours longer), THEN I'd buy it again. In the mean time, the Elder Scrolls will continue to beat Fable in pretty much every category.
P.S. The above is my opinion, you don't have to agree with it, and it doesn't mean that I'm right.
Honestly, the Fable games have an interesting premise, and they fill the rpg-comedy niche well sometimes, but if you don't innovate sufficiently between games, then they're not going to sell (unless you have a massive fanbase like Halo, but even then it feels like you're cheating your fans).
If Fable threw out the good-evil axis for a truly open moral choice system that relied on consequences instead of arbitrary points (and made the game like 20 hours longer), THEN I'd buy it again. In the mean time, the Elder Scrolls will continue to beat Fable in pretty much every category.
P.S. The above is my opinion, you don't have to agree with it, and it doesn't mean that I'm right.
I hate it when games use an arbitrary days counter and then flip forward a random number of days so that you have no idea how much longer the game will be.
This was one of the problems I had with Kingdom Hearts 358 days/2 (Another problem being the stupid name). At one point near the end of the game I was starting to get sick of it and just hoped that I could finish it soon. I was about to give up and put it down for a while when all of a sudden the game jumps forward a huge amount of days and I'm now on day 357. I wish they would just keep jumping forward a set number of days so that I would have known I was almost done. Or just not have the stupid days counter in the first place.
This was one of the problems I had with Kingdom Hearts 358 days/2 (Another problem being the stupid name). At one point near the end of the game I was starting to get sick of it and just hoped that I could finish it soon. I was about to give up and put it down for a while when all of a sudden the game jumps forward a huge amount of days and I'm now on day 357. I wish they would just keep jumping forward a set number of days so that I would have known I was almost done. Or just not have the stupid days counter in the first place.
I thought at first he wasn't going to review it after seeing his comment on his Twitter.
Oh well. I knew he was going to have the same feelings about the game as the other two prequels.
And is it just me or is the whole morale choicee things a little too boring in Fable III? Because I always thought Fable was an RPG game. This one feels more like a simulation game. And this is coming from a guy who doesn't own an Xbox nor an Xbox 360 and knows little to none about the Fable series.
Oh well. I knew he was going to have the same feelings about the game as the other two prequels.
And is it just me or is the whole morale choicee things a little too boring in Fable III? Because I always thought Fable was an RPG game. This one feels more like a simulation game. And this is coming from a guy who doesn't own an Xbox nor an Xbox 360 and knows little to none about the Fable series.
Wow. That actually was a pretty good twist in the storyline, providing a justification for the stuff everyone hated the king and wanted him dethroned for. Too bad they had to royally fuck it up by deciding he was still evil for doing it. I mean, really, what the hell. I can only assume this came from the gameplay mechanics designers and the writers working separately with no communication between them.
Thank you Yatzee for pointing out that the worst part about any game's moral choice system is that everything is good or evil based upon the game designer's perspective of what good and evil are.
I find most epic fantasy in general to have fascist undercurrents, of the kind satirized by Norman Spinrad in The Iron Dream [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Iron_Dream]. Another reason I appreciated Dragon Age so much: the king-making is a necessary evil so you get on with your mission to save the world, and even then you get your choice of regicidal paranoid xenophobe, rudderless whiny emo bastard, and deceitful opportunistic *****.
But it sounds like the Fable III final choice had so much storytelling potential that was just squandered. Ah well, another reason I never need to own a 360.
But it sounds like the Fable III final choice had so much storytelling potential that was just squandered. Ah well, another reason I never need to own a 360.
Sounds a bit better than Fable 2 but the end choices make it worse... oy...... you'd think by now Bethesda, bioware and lord god Peter M would have realized that a 2 choice pathing system for stories just blows.
It wooks pwetty!!
yeah that's definitely gonna take priority in the grand scheme of themes
hahaha and this was really funny
don't have anything new to say about the gameplay so...
love it when it's just an analysis of a game's [sequel's sequel's] story or whatever
yeah that's definitely gonna take priority in the grand scheme of themes
hahaha and this was really funny
don't have anything new to say about the gameplay so...
love it when it's just an analysis of a game's [sequel's sequel's] story or whatever
Same here. Luckily I borrow Fable 1 TLC from a friend and recognized the horrible game it was. Since then I have just followed all the others releases through the press. 0:25 to 0:50 of the review covers my take on the franchise. I keep hearing "good" stuff about them so I look up reviews and they are "good" technically by score but all of the features in them I hated in 1 are now there and more pronounced in the latest sequel be it 2 or 3. I don't get how these games score so highly.Okysho said:
So glad that my decision not to get into fable has been rewarded. Now I'm off to swat some fanboy wasps and break an xbox lovers heart XD
Yeah, the time jump kinda caught me by surprise, too. I was only a few rent payments away from having the 6 million, but even with the final portal waiting for me to enter, I can still just let the game sit, collect the cash, pause to the Sanctuary, and drop the gold in the treasury from there. Hazaa, I saved everyone with the good ending.
Even though the description for the achievement was written by someone that expected only evil asses to get it. I had all but the lakefront homes on Low rent and most shops on low, too. I never had any on high, so I was a shining beacon of sunshine and happiness as far as anyone cared. Really, what's the big deal? Oh no, I have to donate my gold to save everyone? There goes my condom cash. I already bought every property in the world by the time I became King and seemed to have a world where the weapon shops were populated by evil blacksmiths, so I wasn't motivated to buy anything with all the gold flooding into my pockets.
EDIT: Really, I think Molyneaux makes games in character interaction for years and at the end of development realizes he forgot to make an ending with all the time spend designing holding people's hands.
Even though the description for the achievement was written by someone that expected only evil asses to get it. I had all but the lakefront homes on Low rent and most shops on low, too. I never had any on high, so I was a shining beacon of sunshine and happiness as far as anyone cared. Really, what's the big deal? Oh no, I have to donate my gold to save everyone? There goes my condom cash. I already bought every property in the world by the time I became King and seemed to have a world where the weapon shops were populated by evil blacksmiths, so I wasn't motivated to buy anything with all the gold flooding into my pockets.
EDIT: Really, I think Molyneaux makes games in character interaction for years and at the end of development realizes he forgot to make an ending with all the time spend designing holding people's hands.