Zero Punctuation: Fallout 4

el_emmens

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Imp Emissary said:
People really have that hard of a time finding screws? I've got like 800 of the things. Though, I do dismantle a lot of guns taken from enemies. The building materials I've found hardest to find are copper, fiber optics, nuclear material, and aluminium.
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Invest in both scrounger and scrapper perk, put ranks into those, scrounger helps you scavenge more stuff, ammo and various other things. also bent cans are good for aluminium. Scrapper gives you back things like screws and all the other carious weapon parts. honestly I think any guide for this game should highlight taking those perks as earliy as possible
 

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el_emmens said:
Imp Emissary said:
People really have that hard of a time finding screws? I've got like 800 of the things. Though, I do dismantle a lot of guns taken from enemies. The building materials I've found hardest to find are copper, fiber optics, nuclear material, and aluminium.
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Invest in both scrounger and scrapper perk, put ranks into those, scrounger helps you scavenge more stuff, ammo and various other things. also bent cans are good for aluminium. Scrapper gives you back things like screws and all the other carious weapon parts. honestly I think any guide for this game should highlight taking those perks as earliy as possible
Oh wait. THAT'S why I have so many screws. I got those Scrapper perks as soon as I could.
Well that explains that.

Also yeah. The cans are the easiest way to get more. Just got to find good spots to farm them.

I'd say the Lonely Chapel is a good place to go. Raider camp with lots of them. Tin cans for steal too.
Also tv dinner and surgery trays. You can find lots of those in hospitals. Normally filled with super mutants. Hospitals also have a fair number of microscopes which are good for fiber optics.

Havn't found a great spot to find copper yet, but it's in a lot of items you can normally buy for cheap enough or find here and there while exploring. Plus you can buy shipments of it.
Nuclear materials show up a lot in "glowing" enemies, some less common items, and in very modded weapons. You don't need a LOT of it though so it isn't too bad. Suppose to show up when you kill an enemy with energy weapons too, but I barley ever found any when killing them with lasers or plasma.

Also, another gripe for Fallout 4 is that it doesn't really go into enough detail with the settlement crafting. Had to experiment or find out about a lot of it online.
Also didn't know they had a cover system until I read about it on the Escapist. Saw a few companions and enemies use it (shooting around corners) but I just thought that that was something only the AI could do.
 

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remnant_phoenix said:
Weird. He seemed to lament the absence of a karma meter, yet in the past he's said, direct quoting here, "karma meters are bulls***". I wonder if he's changed his mind about moral choice systems.
There's better ways for a game to react to your actions than just a meter. The NPCs treat you differently, their dialogue changes, they might welcome you into their home, or attack you on sight. Making your choices feel like a meaningful part of the world, rather than some bar on your hub, or one of two linear paths, is a good thing i think.
 

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That awkward moment when you watch a joke review video and find that it entirely reflects your actual opinions regarding the game...
 

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Jandau said:
That awkward moment when you watch a joke review video and find that it entirely reflects your actual opinions regarding the game...
I've always found that with Yahtzee. For all that he jokes around he usually manages, in 5 minutes, to critique the games he reviews better than "proper" review sites do.

OP: The minute I found the protagonist was voiced and there was now binary speech options it immediately set off my warning alarms. I love me some Mass Effect; but Fallout is Fallout - the same style of conversations just won't work. I was really hyped to get Fallout 4 but the more I'm hearing, the less I'm enthused. I might just stick to playing modded Skyrim or Fallout New Vegas for my Bethesda RPG fix.
 

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Joshroom said:
Jandau said:
That awkward moment when you watch a joke review video and find that it entirely reflects your actual opinions regarding the game...
I've always found that with Yahtzee. For all that he jokes around he usually manages, in 5 minutes, to critique the games he reviews better than "proper" review sites do.

OP: The minute I found the protagonist was voiced and there was now binary speech options it immediately set off my warning alarms. I love me some Mass Effect; but Fallout is Fallout - the same style of conversations just won't work. I was really hyped to get Fallout 4 but the more I'm hearing, the less I'm enthused. I might just stick to playing modded Skyrim or Fallout New Vegas for my Bethesda RPG fix.
The thing is, he usually exaggerates and focuses on a small flaw and blows it out of proportion. Even when I agree with him, I usually feel he's not being fair (and he isn't supposed to be, that's the point of ZP). But this time, it's literally what I felt - especially the crafting and ESPECIALLY the sudden focus on hoarding random junk which interferes with the rest of the game. If someone had given me a transcript of this ZP video without the series name and simply told me it was a review on a site somewhere, I'd find that perfectly acceptable...
 

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Sansha said:
I knew it. I knew this would be disappointing, bland, overblown, committee-design Skyrim-meets-Minecraft half-assery with needy factions and poor companion planning, with a contrived, 'serious' main plot - IE a missing child - that you can happily discard so you can collate power armor and build a fucking town.

And now I am narcissistically proud of myself for, as a massive Fo3 fan, never giving into the hype, looking at the new title objectively, and almost never being at all interested in buying it.
But Fo3 was also a disappointing, bland, overblown, committee-design blah blah blah game.
 

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Matey said:
JagerBombastic said:
I understand why people like Fallout as a game series, I just never really got on with it personally.
I played Fallout New Vegas, which is supposedly the best one of the series and I thought, 'to hell with this' in about 2 levels worth. Still far be it for me to have a go on other peoples favourite games I love playing Destiny and MMORPG's in general.
Since when is New Vegas the best of the series? The argument has always been between 1 and 2 (i vote 2).
No, it's New Vegas.
And it was the best since it came out.
 

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Having never played any Fallout game I'm kinda disappointed by this critique. Doesn't really sell the series to me.
 

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Matey said:
Since when is New Vegas the best of the series? The argument has always been between 1 and 2 (i vote 2).
Fallout 2 is probably the most... interesting of the Fallout series.

Fallout 2 has a lot of amazing highlights. Being a porn fluffer, talking albino deathclaws, Pinky and the Brain, Scientology and, of course, being able to "get married and pimp out your spouse for chump change" (from the Fallout 2 box blurb). Oh, and it happens in some post apocalyptic wasteland. A wasteland in some corner of the Twilight Zone.

Fallout 2 has a lot of unique "content". Fallout 1 was a lot of content that was "borrowed" from Wasteland.
 

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Wilco86 said:
JagerBombastic said:
I understand why people like Fallout as a game series, I just never really got on with it personally.
I played Fallout New Vegas, which is supposedly the best one of the series and I thought, 'to hell with this' in about 2 levels worth. Still far be it for me to have a go on other peoples favourite games I love playing Destiny and MMORPG's in general.
Well, as far as I can analyze the problem, you haven't played Fallout 1 nor Fallout 2.

It's a common misconception that game series start with 3 (Fallout 3, TESIII: Morrowind, Persona 3, Devil May Cry 3, etc.). =P
To be fair you are completely right I have not played Fallout 1 & 2, they probably are the best 2 games of the series but I just can't get on with the game series.

Saying that their are a lot of games out their to play and I just will never find the time for all of them.
 

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Matey said:
JagerBombastic said:
I understand why people like Fallout as a game series, I just never really got on with it personally.
I played Fallout New Vegas, which is supposedly the best one of the series and I thought, 'to hell with this' in about 2 levels worth. Still far be it for me to have a go on other peoples favourite games I love playing Destiny and MMORPG's in general.
Since when is New Vegas the best of the series? The argument has always been between 1 and 2 (i vote 2).
It was just something my friends who played a lot of Fallout back in the they said to me, I believe it was after their big world at war binge, still like I said just not a fan is all.

It was the combat system that I just couldn't come to terms with, which is kind of annoying because it dose look like a really fun story with great ideas. I guess the closest I will ever come to an story like that is the Metro series.
 

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earlier Fallouts are much better than 3, nv, 4. Out of new ones NV sees to be the best. 3 being digusting and 4 turned into fps minecraft abomination with me dialogue system. I am supried 4 didnt have towers to climb to uncover map.
 
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nyysjan said:
As a person with 325 hours of time played on Fallout 4 (for comparison, i have around 450 on Skyrim,quarter of which was me trying to get my game look just right with mods, and failing).
I have to say that i agree with almost everything Yathzee said.
If anything, he left lot of things out that i would have complained about (settlement system, inconsistent voice acting for male MC, forced characterization, story and gameply dissonance, some obvious flaws in crafting system, etc...).

Having said that, i'm of to play some more fallout, those raiders won't (usually) kill themselves.
...Wtf. How do you have 325 hours in F4 already? DO YOU SLEEP?
 
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Agree with Yahtzee on the baby. I've barely played the game but every moment of the beginning in which the baby was present, I had to look away. I don't think it was uncanny valley creepiness, but that baby was just horrifying. The adults look better, as long as they don't smile. Really wish they couldn't smile. :|

And for everyone disliking the game, I kind of understand. Fallout's intended audience falls into two categories: the OCDers (Fallout scratches that itch but good) and people who enjoy some of the randomness of the encounters. I still fondly remember walking out of a shack in the middle of nowhere while playing F3 and seeing a giant albino radscorpion and a a military robot fighting the Brahmin in the pen next to it. The Brahmin lost, of course. And then I lost. :( Then there was that time I fast-traveled, auto-saved and then proceeded to get hate-killed by the same Deathclaw for the next hour. Annoying, but kind of fun at the same time.

Really, Fallout doesn't need a story or crafting or a skill system. It just needs to be a giant open world with completely randomized enemy and NPC encounters.