Zero Punctuation: Halo Wars
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
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I agree, but if you try to micromanage in Sup Com you're going to be screwed. It's a game that small maneuvers and tactics are horrendously outclassed by thinking on a strategical level and economic finesse. Maybe when you're controlling your commander and trying something fancy like hitting an experimental with his death-ray, but Sup Com is about Macromanagement, not micro.LazyAza said:
I wonder if Yahtzee ever played the original C&C games, those are classics. It's to bad EA bought out westwood though 
Whoah.
Until now I was (blissfully) unaware that Yahtzee is a complete know-nothing in the genre of RTS. Maybe I had assumed from his intellectual persona and James-Bond-like demeanor that he was an adept in the art of office-chair strategy, and simply chose to use his powers for the good of the lost and shattered horde of consolites and FPS tards. Clearly I have been profoundly mistaken. I find it APPALLING that his first exposure and subsequent review would be of this steaming pile of horse excrement called Halo Wars. Of all the titles in the godforsaken universe why in blue blazes would he choose that one to introduce himself to the genre? A fatal mistake, mister Bond. Now witness the firepower of this fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL battle station!
**BELCH**
WarCraft II
WarCraft III
Company of Heroes
Homeworld
Homeworld 2
Sins of a Solar Empire
Command & Conquer: Red Alert
Total Annihilation
Rise of Nations
Age of Empires II
Medieval: Total War
Supreme Commander
Nexus: The Jupiter Incident
Empire Earth
Stronghold
STARCRAFT
"Halo Wars" is not even in the same league as these titles, and the idea that the entire genre would be represented as such is utterly disgusting.
And if Yahtzee thinks I am a loser for enjoying RTS, I think he knows where he can put his Branston Pickle.
Until now I was (blissfully) unaware that Yahtzee is a complete know-nothing in the genre of RTS. Maybe I had assumed from his intellectual persona and James-Bond-like demeanor that he was an adept in the art of office-chair strategy, and simply chose to use his powers for the good of the lost and shattered horde of consolites and FPS tards. Clearly I have been profoundly mistaken. I find it APPALLING that his first exposure and subsequent review would be of this steaming pile of horse excrement called Halo Wars. Of all the titles in the godforsaken universe why in blue blazes would he choose that one to introduce himself to the genre? A fatal mistake, mister Bond. Now witness the firepower of this fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL battle station!
**BELCH**
WarCraft II
WarCraft III
Company of Heroes
Homeworld
Homeworld 2
Sins of a Solar Empire
Command & Conquer: Red Alert
Total Annihilation
Rise of Nations
Age of Empires II
Medieval: Total War
Supreme Commander
Nexus: The Jupiter Incident
Empire Earth
Stronghold
STARCRAFT
"Halo Wars" is not even in the same league as these titles, and the idea that the entire genre would be represented as such is utterly disgusting.
And if Yahtzee thinks I am a loser for enjoying RTS, I think he knows where he can put his Branston Pickle.
Yes it would.uber. said:
and to remember what Yahtzee says about a game, I merely watch the video again. Many many times.
Thank god the guy from unskippable fucked off, I was about to stop the video and head to the comments page for another huge wall of text regarding the music festival-toilet-poor quality of that "show".
Awesome as usual, once it got going. They should release more real time strategy games on the DS. The stylus replacement of the mouse works extremely well in my opinion.
RTS + DS = Fun for all!
Awesome as usual, once it got going. They should release more real time strategy games on the DS. The stylus replacement of the mouse works extremely well in my opinion.
RTS + DS = Fun for all!
no, blizzard is just competent at making RTS games that are incredible (yes, warcraft 3 had too many races, but its still fun), while relic has made fun ones, they are not of a level of quality that meets my bench. also, if you notice, console game comes up more then blizzard. honestly, if it was commissioned by blizzard, it would have worked, but halo wars just blowsAcid Armageddon said:
yes, rts on DS would work, but the thing is, that if you are not working with a 13x11 screen, you cant see enough of the field anymoreDannyDamage said:
you forgot that StarCraft needs to be every other RTS on that list (it started pro gaming on a large scale), and agreed, thats a pretty descent list. Using that list as a benchmark (SC being number 1), halo wars comes up on the bench at about possition #10000 miles away from your bench.mtk2a said:
the major flaws with Halo Wars is that well, it has a massive great wall of shit in its way to stop it from even being anything short then a $60 frizbee
That list isn't in any particular order, I just belched them out as they popped into my head. But you're right, StarCraft is definitely my favorite, and probably the best RTS ever made, even today. I think originally I had it at the top, but decided I wanted the list to end with a knock-out blow.toapat said:
Well in the unskippable it sort of started with a fight about who had a harder job, so he said that it didnt take any skill to put stick figures, along with curse words and a yellow background. so he was Stark was going for the,"look at me im tottaly handling this" smug voice mokery. so just ignore itBUG.exe said:
If it matters at all there are a few possible RTS games that might be of interest. Warcraft 3 or the various civilization/Age of "insert noun here" could be possibly entertaining. Battle realms is a possibility too, just because I don't think too many people have actually played the damn thing and it might actually be enjoyable for you.
I take it you didn't spend more than a few weeks playing the game. This is the biggest misconception in StarCraft. The rush tactic is hit or miss in the intermediate level, and extremely risky in the pro scene. It's only ever guaranteed against noobs who know nothing about micro (in which case an intermediate player could probably win blind folded without even bothering to rush). After learning the basics and sprucing up my style of play, some simple scouting is all I needed to not only counter whatever rush tactic I came across, but also trample my opponent (and I'm a Protoss player).SandroTheMaster said:
A choke and decent defensive placement has yet to fail me in countering a rush on battle.net (1v1, of course).
It may appeal to the general public, but there's a reason why 60-90% of its players never make it beyond the beginner to intermediate level. The game is overflowing with strategic concepts, even in comparison to the more modern RTS titles. It's just that most people don't realize it.
Another misconception is that, unlike the majority of RTS titles, spamming a single unit doesn't work, especially when you understand the game. There's a reason why it's considered to be one of the most balanced RTS titles ever. There's a counter to each and every single unit. But, as I said, many don't realize this and are quick to dismiss it as mediocre. From my experience, it has just as much raw strategy to offer as the likes of Company of Heroes and Solar Empire.
Total war games are about the only RTS games out there that actually require STRATEGY.... Every other game I see is an un-realistic build up of resources & units until you steamroll your opponent....
Play:
Shogun Total war
Rome Total war
Empire Total war
Medieval Total war
I am a massive fan of the series, and those games are the only RTS games I play. The ability to send THOUSANDs to their deaths , muhaha
Play:
Shogun Total war
Rome Total war
Empire Total war
Medieval Total war
I am a massive fan of the series, and those games are the only RTS games I play. The ability to send THOUSANDs to their deaths , muhaha