Zero Punctuation: Homefront The Revolution

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What little I remember from the first game's charitably-labled-story (before I got bored and quit) was my character was BARELY a character, with no speaking while the other NPC's yelled at me and each other, while making one terrible decision after another. How that got a "sequel" or whatever it is boggles my mind.
Goliath100 said:
One day I will get a great guerilla warfare game, but that day is not today.
Do the FarCry games count? Particularly 3 and 4?
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RJ Dalton said:
Now that you've said it, I do want to see a game with real-world North Korea as the bad guys. It would be refreshing to play a game where the big bad guy is totally insane in that goofy sort of way that makes him torture scientists until they publish reports that unicorns are real so he can claim to have ridden one.
That game exists and it's called Mercenaries (which is basically Grand Theft Korean-warzone gameplay-wise). I recall it being one of my favourites but this was a long time ago so I may be nostalgia-blinded. One of the best parts being you get to sorta pick the level of goofiness you want as there are 3 Player Characters to select from, two of which are serious and one of which is a jolly violence-loving psychopath.
I agree, the first Mercenaries was the tits. Amazing soundtrack, a plethora of vehicles and weapons, airstrikes you can buy, and it wasn't a ham-fisted political allegory, unlike it's sequel. They should make another one, and do it better than last time.
 

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Barbas said:
Nobody going to make the joke about it being the second revolution caused by Americans being catty and late with their payments? Noooooooooooooooooo???

Fair enough, then.
Why did north korea take over half the world? because the americans were getting so fat that they were worried there wouldn't be any space left on earth. Badum-tish
 

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Steve the Pocket said:
Hmm. This game was announced by THQ shortly before they went under and then got bought up by Deep Silver. Given the QA issues, I wonder if they handed it over to the same team that made Ride to Hell Retribution 1%.

...Wikipedia says it wasn't. Disappointing.

Also, points to the developers for apparently retconning away the original backstory in favor of an even more ludicrous one. So is this a sequel or a reboot?
Its kind of like Airport simulator. first there was airport simulator 2014 which was awful and one of the lowest scoring games on steam. then there was airport simulator 2015 which was a slightly more tolerable kind awful, but made by a different dev under a different publisher. i'm guessing that the IP was picked up by somone else after THQ collapsed and then they just rewrote it so that people wouldn't have to play homefront 1 first since they would make no money off it and but they could still rake in some cash from the people who remembered the first one. it's all speculation though. a lot of game companies nowadays have execs with no experience in game design who were just hired because they made money selling something else
 

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I wonder if those two guys that cornered you remembered when you were inadvertently humping one of you comrades in combat...

Other than that, you're not kidding about the sound...
 

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If they want a North Korean villain, how about making a shooter in the fucking Korean War? Go at it, Call of Duty. There doesn't seem to be much love for your sci-fi settings anymore, so how about a period that feels like the WW2 setting that made you, but is just different enough to score some originality points.
 

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I think the problem with using China as villains is that even if they do have the resources to do it they don't really (at lease as far as I can see) have a real reason to invade and/or destroy America. They don't have a real beef with us other then the Boxer Rebellion that they got over a long time ago.
 

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Steve the Pocket said:
Hmm. This game was announced by THQ shortly before they went under and then got bought up by Deep Silver. Given the QA issues, I wonder if they handed it over to the same team that made Ride to Hell Retribution 1%.

...Wikipedia says it wasn't. Disappointing.

Also, points to the developers for apparently retconning away the original backstory in favor of an even more ludicrous one. So is this a sequel or a reboot?
Nope, that game was done by Eutechnyx. This game was made by Dambusters(a company mostly made up of employees from Crytek UK)- which Yahtzee may be surprised to learn is actually not based in the USA but rather in the U.K.
 

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bificommander said:
If they want a North Korean villain, how about making a shooter in the fucking Korean War? Go at it, Call of Duty. There doesn't seem to be much love for your sci-fi settings anymore, so how about a period that feels like the WW2 setting that made you, but is just different enough to score some originality points.
Plenty of people still love sci-fi settings, those dislikes on IW's trailer are mostly just from people jumping on the bandwagon. People forget that the initial reveal trailer for Black Ops 2 also had a large amount of dislikes, but that didn't stop from selling like hotcakes, and i'm sure the same will be true this year as well.
 

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Darth_Payn said:
What little I remember from the first game's charitably-labled-story (before I got bored and quit) was my character was BARELY a character, with no speaking while the other NPC's yelled at me and each other, while making one terrible decision after another. How that got a "sequel" or whatever it is boggles my mind.
Goliath100 said:
One day I will get a great guerilla warfare game, but that day is not today.
Do the FarCry games count? Particularly 3 and 4?
MoltenSilver said:
RJ Dalton said:
Now that you've said it, I do want to see a game with real-world North Korea as the bad guys. It would be refreshing to play a game where the big bad guy is totally insane in that goofy sort of way that makes him torture scientists until they publish reports that unicorns are real so he can claim to have ridden one.
That game exists and it's called Mercenaries (which is basically Grand Theft Korean-warzone gameplay-wise). I recall it being one of my favourites but this was a long time ago so I may be nostalgia-blinded. One of the best parts being you get to sorta pick the level of goofiness you want as there are 3 Player Characters to select from, two of which are serious and one of which is a jolly violence-loving psychopath.
I agree, the first Mercenaries was the tits. Amazing soundtrack, a plethora of vehicles and weapons, airstrikes you can buy, and it wasn't a ham-fisted political allegory, unlike it's sequel. They should make another one, and do it better than last time.
Mercenaries 2 wasn't really much of a "ham fisted political allegory" at all as the storyline didn't really mention politics all that often.
 

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bificommander said:
If they want a North Korean villain, how about making a shooter in the fucking Korean War? Go at it, Call of Duty. There doesn't seem to be much love for your sci-fi settings anymore, so how about a period that feels like the WW2 setting that made you, but is just different enough to score some originality points.
I could see Treyarch being the ones behind something like that since it could be placed as a midqual to World at War and the original Black Ops (Yes the latter is a sequel to the former).
 

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So, after watching this, I only have one, very important question...

...who's up for fighting zargons on Mars in the next Call of Duty game? It's already gone into space, might as well have aliens in it.
 

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Sonicron said:
I especially enjoyed him calling out these crapout devs for being cowards. The notion of 'North Chorea' is now firmly embedded in my brain.
Except they weren't being "cowards" since they clearly did want North Korea as a villain and not China.
 

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Michael Prymula said:
Sonicron said:
I especially enjoyed him calling out these crapout devs for being cowards. The notion of 'North Chorea' is now firmly embedded in my brain.
Except they weren't being "cowards" since they clearly did want North Korea as a villain and not China.
Bullshit. The enemy for the first game was China util they got cold feet and switched to the Norks. The stated 'reasons' were: http://kotaku.com/5732623/china-is-both-too-scary-and-not-scary-enough-to-be-video-game-villains
"They're just not that scary."
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Bilson recalls getting a word of caution from some of the personnel at his company. "The guys in our Chinese office said: Did you know that everybody on the exec team will be banned from coming into China for the rest of your lives? They were afraid the ministry of culture was going to wipe us out."



So take your revisionist bullshit and shovel it elsewhere please. Not to mention China is only not scary if you're not paying attention to the goings on in the South China Sea or the fact that by 2020 their military spending will equal the US's because they've been adding 10% year after year to it since the early 90's.
 

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bificommander said:
If they want a North Korean villain, how about making a shooter in the fucking Korean War? Go at it, Call of Duty. There doesn't seem to be much love for your sci-fi settings anymore, so how about a period that feels like the WW2 setting that made you, but is just different enough to score some originality points.
Korean War actually sounds like a great time to hold a shooter. Modern enough that it has jet fighters, but not so modern that you have fancy toys like drones. The Cold War means that you have a peer opponent in the USSR/China, and there's room for intrigue and twisty plots in the setting, like the USSR's "No, really, those are North Koreans flying those Migs" pretext. And of course, the threat of nuclear annihilation looming overhead to raise the stakes.
 

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Steve the Pocket said:
Hmm. This game was announced by THQ shortly before they went under and then got bought up by Deep Silver. Given the QA issues, I wonder if they handed it over to the same team that made Ride to Hell Retribution 1%.

...Wikipedia says it wasn't. Disappointing.

Also, points to the developers for apparently retconning away the original backstory in favor of an even more ludicrous one. So is this a sequel or a reboot?
To be fair this was an extremely bland and interchangeable enemy. Replace Plutocracy Korea with any hyper-capitalist state and can still be Homefront: The Revolution.


The original Homefront on the other hand gave us a frighteningly real desperate resistance against an enemy who knows no fear, mercy and a threat we can relate to. Norks in the original Homefront was utterly merciless and the "resistance" felt like a real life resistance, there is no hope for victory, only delaying the ineveitable as retribution from the Norks is way worse than what they give.
 

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Bob_McMillan said:
Damn, I forgot this game even existed. I wonder if Yahtzee will bother with Battleborn or Overwatch.
He said in his latest Let's Drown out video that he'll probably do a ZP of Overwatch alongside another game, which could be Battleborn I suppose. He actually seemed almost fond of Overwatch, aside from a slight grumble about the lack of content.

For anyone who's curious, he also said his favourite hero is Soldier 76.
 

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Not to mention China is only not scary if you're not paying attention to the goings on in the South China Sea or the fact that by 2020 their military spending will equal the US's because they've been adding 10% year after year to it since the early 90's.
After Iraq, Libya and Syria combined with the games the US wants to play in Russia's backyard (with the EU/NATO following along like good puppy dogs) I just can't be bothered being scared of China.