Zero Punctuation: Killzone 3

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Erdie

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Wow. A little sad how quick you are to jump into anti-American bullshit, especially since this game is Dutch-developed. Who's the bigot again?
 

Cooperblack

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There is really no excuse for not having fully customizable controls in games any more , hell both Sony and Microsoft will freely GIVE the minuscule programs to any dev team(we're talking kilobytes here) - it's not like it's a huge programming nightmare to have a screen with a photo of the controller and allow the player to place his/her own controls as he/she wishes.

Really whats scarring the devs teams?

That this will lead to some sort of anarchistic nightmare?

Dev one :"look at OUR players.. they are playing OUR game that WE made their OWN way it's bedlam!!"

Dev two :"I can't stand it..it's It's Anarchy..I'M pulling the plug!!!"
 

maninahat

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soldier9501 said:
Yahtzee seemed to miss the fact that this game was made by a company based in Amsterdam.

And you could switch the crouch/aim buttons. It's called the "Alternate" control scheme.
Doesn't change the fact that the game is clearly aimed at Americans and the protagonists are obviously American surrogate characters in their WWII analogy. Hence their American accents and rugged, brown-haired, manly appearance; the default look of practically every Western protagonist.
 

maninahat

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Jack Phoenix said:
I like most of your reviews and the hate comedy on them but if america is so fucking stupid and gay then why do more people move from their countries to ours? The only reason why its hard to get a green card is because we want productive people who can actually help other people in this country and because so many people are flooding toward us faster then a Tsunami in Japan.
I think you're taking his reviews too seriously. He is after-all only reviewing a silly game, and not launching a polemic dissertation against the US.
 

Orinon

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Helped defeat? You make it sound like it was America that truly beat the axis while the rest of the Allies gave minor contributions.
Britain Canada and France defeated the Nazis America kinda helped but only during the end when Japan Broke their dock. Seriously why do so many people think America was the Big hero in WWII, they showed up at the last minute and Only because Japan attacked I'm pretty sure America was doing trade with Germany.
 

mchoueiri

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wow He didn't like it I am so shocked. -___- I mean we all knew what kind of game was coming out after you played the first one no need to expect anything else.
 

Nightbringer

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I bought KZ2 and got about 20 minutes in before I shelved it. The graphics have potential, but if you peer past the (admittedly nice) post-processing the base textures are alarmingly low resolution. Everything runs together in an uninteresting muddy sameness and lacks sharpness. The characters and setting are poorly realized, unrealistic and unrelateable, and I don't recall being impressed by any animation (particularly facial).

I watched some KZ3 videos to get a grip on how things have changed, but from what I've seen they haven't. :(
 

Gaming King

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Is it just me, or was that one kinda dull? The jokes just weren't as good as usual. But at least it wasn't for another obscure piece of crap nobody's ever heard of. SONIC COLORS FOR THE Wii NOW, PLEASE. PLLLLLEEEEEEAAAAASSSSSEEEEEE!! I want to see it SUFFER!!
 

irani_che

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from now on
whenever i see an advert on the escapist i will think,
another buck for Yahtzees Kinect move
 

The Electro Gypsy

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Gods damn it, Bulletstorm was NOT a fucking cover based shooter, if you honestly think that Yahtzee, you've approached it the wrong way.

And Killzone sounds about as terrible as I always thought it'd be!

Also, on the topic of the ZP's humour, I personally found that it goes through phases of being extremely funny and then being more serious, Dead Space 2 has started off this unfunny phase, but that's not surprising tbh
 

secretsantaone

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Therumancer said:

We're talking about pop culture, not the culture in of itself. This revolves around fantasy and how the Britan likes to portray itself, not reality. You'll notice I haven't mentioned ONE source of role-playing games, but tons of differant things all around a similar theme, including one of the longer running comic universes out there.

The point here being is that with all of this stuff being produced, I don't see where there is any room to complain about Killzone, which is just another work of fantasy in a similar vein. The only possible reason to say "well this is differant" is simply because it seems to be being made by someone who isn't British. Sort of like a black person shooting off the "N" word every 15 seconds and then getting all upset when someone else does it.

I never said the British were goosestepping through the streets to planning campaigns of facist world domination in reality, simply that there is a definate trend to show that within british pop culture. You can protest it all you want and say that it's contrary to the British mentality as a whole, and that's fine, I believe you that people don't act that way in public or go around screaming that idealogy, but at the end of the day it's a popular escapist concept. I'm sure part of the whole appeal is specifically BECAUSE it's "wrong" sort of like kids wanting to be pirates, or going through a phase where they are interested in criminals and seriel killers. People don't go watch horror movies and cheer for the bad guys (hey it happens) due to some actual desire to go out and committ sadistic acts of murder. People go to see "A Nightmare On Elm Street" to see Freddy Kreuegar kill people in messed up ways, which is why he's iconic, and they sell action figures of him, not of the teen girls who ultimatly defeat him. :)

Yahtzee has no reason to pick on this aspect of things like it's in some way unfair, because it really isn't.

If you want to get technical as well, for all of the "OMG, we suffered so much" stuff from World War II, remember The British Empire was at one time the dominant world power, and engaged in a LOT of very aggressive wars of conquest before overextending itself. For all pretensions of "oh well we grew out of that" it's foolish to try and claim with a straight face that people don't look back at the time when their people were dominant, and the techniques and tactics they used to do it. Because of how relativelty recent he was people will point fingers at Hitler, but on a lot of levels he wasn't all that differant from other conquering powers. You can draw as many analogies between a lot of these really fascist and aggressive British fantasy concepts, and the time of The British Empire. Heck, Kipling probably would have found a lot to like in "Warhammer 40k".

Every nation wants to publically present itself as being peaceful, reactive, and nice guys, well unless they are the dominant world power usually. When fortunes change pretty much every former power goes "Ummm, yeah about all that fascism, racism, conquest and brutality... we're really sorry, we've outgrown that" and then whine about being on the receiving end.

The bottom line is that there is no reason to get defensive about it, or try and deny it, it's all right there so you can't anyway. My point isn't to be judgemental of any point except the hypocricy of the complaint... and again, nobody is saying that the British guy on the street right now is secretly some kind of militant maniac, not even fans of the materials being mentioned, no more than someone who likes horror movies is secretly planning to go on murder rampages.
Well done for not reading my post at all.

Firstly, most of the things you listed aren't supportive of facist regimes, quite the opposite in fact.

Secondly, the Helghast are specifically portrayed to be similar to Nazis, from the uniforms to the German sounding name. It's all fine and dandy talking about the British empire, I'm no apologist, I know the empire was brutal, but it was not in anyway Nazi Germany, nor was it particularly facist, and the point is that the British are portraying the side they fought so hard against. It's like making a game based around the American revolution where the French fight for independance from the Americans.

Finally, are you seriously saying that because 'V for Vendetta' and 'Warhammer 40K' Britain is now asssociated with facism to the general audience? Really?
 

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putowtin said:
BlueInkAlchemist said:
Ekonk said:
...You do know this game was made by the Dutch, not by Americans, yeah?
So the Dutch are taking the piss out of the US of A?

I can get behind that.
as can I!
But as a brit... what did we do to the Dutch to upset them? Remember Jedward are Irish and have nothing to do with the rest of the British Isles!
I get it now. This game is a Dutch plot *puts on sunglasses* to drive a wedge between the USA and UK... *dramatic music*

Also, nice play on words, Yahtzee. "Fuck it right in the cutting edge. ouch!" Classic!
 

FallenMessiah88

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Killzone 2 was a really great game...However what killed it for me was the controls. It was virutally unplayable on the highest difficulty setting. As far as i understood the controls had been rewamped for this installment. Seems i was somewhat wrong.
 

fangsandflames3133

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They aren't British.....they are just British actors....
British actors (or at least the British accent) are the generic stand in for all Europeans...current or ancient.
Like in Gladiator...
or Troy...
or Alexander...
or just about any movie set in Europe...
 

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Ekonk said:
...You do know this game was made by the Dutch, not by Americans, yeah?
Yahtzee would never pass up a chance to make fun of Americans, even if he has to lie to us for it.
 

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I liked it, but can see why others wouldn't. Review was strange though, focusing more on the aesthetics than the core gameplay. Multiplayer is a big part of the game too, but Yahtzee never mentions or plays that segment so I can't give him any shit for not mentioning it, but if you were curious about it, it has been reworked quite a bit.
 

TheECP

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Hating on the US is a ZP theme that's getting a little old now. But he's got a clear point about the Bad guys always being British, haha.