Zero Punctuation: Kinect

Giest4life

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I guess Yahtzee is taking it it easy since he has some heavy reviewing to do, you know, with the Shooter Season pumping into full swing now.

Also, I'd pay to see Yahtzee Riverdance.
 

cyber95

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I've actually had very few detection problems with my Kinect, and when I have had problems, it was because I was trying to cram two players into the same space at once.

I did have to move a couch out of the way, admittedly, but I can only assume Yahtzee's living room is larger than mine anyways.

Although I couldn't really get it to work while sitting down, which is a shame because I'd like to just sit down while playing The Gunstringer.
 

Baldr

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The Kinect hates disable people, especially people in wheelchairs.

With that said, besides the lack of good gaming choices, it is still a great piece of technology with it's true potential just being discovered.
 

DarkhoIlow

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Gotta love how intuitive you "critique" motion controls so I'm glad Kinect was next on the list.

Got a few chuckles along the way,so thank you for that.

And looking forward to see the "heavy games" that come out in the next weeks getting ripped to shreds.:p
 

ph0b0s123

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Battlefield 3 Review coming soon. I have a prediction. Rubbish single player game and no mention of multi-player (you know the thing the series was built on) as Yahtzee doesn't do multi-player....

Otherwise enjoyed the Kinect Review.
 

minuialear

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geizr said:
What I'm talking about would be a game where the progression of motion, postures, and gestures would look more like a smooth ballet or practicing of connected katas. The entire game would be an act of learning how to connect the motions and learning which motions, postures, and gestures naturally transition into each other such to create a singular, practiced flow of motion. Precision of angles, speed, and timing would all be important to the movements. Such a game could not only be entertaining but also provide great exercise, as well as improve dexterity and coordination. One could use such games to do things like actually learning how to dance, learning some martial arts, or, as mentioned, just engaging in some fun exercise(imagine a sci-fi space shooter with some rhythmically pumping trance or electronica that you have to actually dance to control, and I mean really dance, not the elephant-stomping DDR-style dancing).

So, in summary, motion controls generally suck because they are being used as simple mappings to traditional button-pushes rather than being used as the intrinsic new paradigm of control that they actually represent. One has to think outside the very small box of current traditional mainstream game design.
I agree; it's not the technology itself that's the problem, it's the way in which developers are using it in their games.
 

Pyramid Head

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I wonder if some day Microsoft will release a system that only needs three months of patching before it's functional as opposed to two years. Kinect being fucking broken was my sign that Rapture sadly wasn't coming this year.

Ah well. Looking forward to the Batman: Arkham City review and Yahtzee's reaction to Joker singing during the end credits.
 

walrusaurus

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Using kinect as your exclusive control system doesn't necessarily have to be bad, if developers could get over the whole 1-to-1 correspondence thing. is using my legs to control movement more realistic? Yes. Is it good game design? No. If we must eschew controllers altogether then map movement to the left hand and actions to the right. there are an infinite number of arm gestures we can make to analog to the various functions, using the legs for more than the occasional curb-stomp or w/e is only going to irritate your players.
 

robot slipper

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I liked Yahtzee's merging-with-the-couch thing, that is so what the Kinect encourages you to do, even if your living room is a decent size. "You will have a better experience if you move further back." Oh, ok, I'll just phase through the wall then!

I found it difficult playing a two-player game with my 7-year old son, as the Kinect seemingly dislikes having to track two people of very different heights. It especially had trouble detecting his movements, even though he was very patiently and precisely doing what it said.
 

remnant_phoenix

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Bacaruda said:
Indeed I agree with your last thought about the use of Kinect. It will never be any good for games unless you have an easy way of moving around. So, sitting in your couch with a controller and from time to time doing some gestures seems more logical to me.
Back when Kinect was called "Project Natal" that's one of the first ways they talked about implementing it. I don't remember who said it or the exact quote, but a Microsoft talking head said something along the lines of, "Imagine playing a Halo game with the standard controls you've come to expect, but instead of pushing a button to throw a grenade you (makes a grenade-throwing motion) to make it happen."
 

Aprilgold

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MichaelMaverick said:
Wow. Yahtzee will have a LOT of work after this. Assuming he'll care at all and doesn't just ignore half the games. Which will probably end up being the case.

Well, you have to THEN consider that Australia gets butt fucked money AND release date wise, Battle Field 3 just came out today, so he can't review it since he needs time.
OhJohnNo said:
Yahtzee is like the pope?

Well, from the way some fans treat him... :p

I knew he'd hate it, but still, it was funny. As always.
Oh so true, I'm waiting for him to get back to me on baptizing my non-existent baby.

ph0b0s123 said:
Battlefield 3 Review coming soon. I have a prediction. Rubbish single player game and no mention of multi-player (you know the thing the series was built on) as Yahtzee doesn't do multi-player....

Otherwise enjoyed the Kinect Review.
He says it has something to do with why implement a single player when your game is multi player designed. Also he said something about how you can never gurantee quality of multiplayer, FOR EXAPMLE in Left 4 Dead you could be easily trolled, therefore, the quality of multiplayer just dropped.
 

Dutch 924

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"6' 5" of solidified handsome"
That's good. I might start using it.

And the idea of Kinect being used as a side piece in games is a good concept. Shame that (like all your other good suggestions) it'll never be recognised.
 

daxterx2005

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MrDeckard said:
God I hope he trashes Arkham City next week...
Same, not because I dislike the game, because I want to see batman themed pictures thru out the review :)