Zero Punctuation: Let It Die

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Vendor-Lazarus said:
I've caught myself sniggering more and more at Zero Punctuation as of late.
By Jove, I thinks he's coming back into another apex again.
Ta, Sir.
The Venn diagram about things in your mouth vs things you should throw got me.

Jacked Assassin said:
Main Stream Media


It's called media, bro.
 

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Worgen said:
mysecondlife said:
Worgen said:
A trump refrence at the end would have worked better. Hillary ran a good campaign, trump failed his way into winning. Mostly because he could say he was an outsider and apparently president is the only job that we want negative qualifications for.
Except Hilary played right into Trump's hands by saying "I am running to be the first women president! I am an outsider!"
especially when she's lived in white house for 8 years and was Senator and Secretary of State ever since. She should have used her qualification as a positive but decided to go with the opposite.

Also, her campaign focus was more on "Why we can't let Donald Trump win" more than why she's qualified for the job.

If Trump's campaign was a failure, I'd argue Hilary's campaign to be even more so.
I don't remember her ever claiming to be a political outsider. Shes been invovled in politics too long to be able to make that claim, then again every politician tries to claim that since for some reason we want people with no experience leading us.

There are lots of good reasons on why he shouldn't ever have been allowed to win. Hell, he pretty much was advocating rape. But, its Hillary, for some reason she has a ton of political baggage despite the fact that her scandle sheet isn't really that different from most long time politicians. But she has been constantly hit for it since she was the first lady. The baggage is more from the never ending barrage rather than any of them really being that noticeable.
You're smart enough to know that even if you don't remember it doesn't mean it never happened. Just google search "Hillary Clinton Outsider"and you're bound to find video clip, articles, etc.

The point of argument is simple really.. Hilary couldn't win because her campaign wasn't strong enough to overcome her political baggage. Donald Trump ran more effective campaign and won despite the sexism, racism and other isms. There really is nothing to argue about.
 

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mysecondlife said:
Worgen said:
mysecondlife said:
Worgen said:
A trump refrence at the end would have worked better. Hillary ran a good campaign, trump failed his way into winning. Mostly because he could say he was an outsider and apparently president is the only job that we want negative qualifications for.
Except Hilary played right into Trump's hands by saying "I am running to be the first women president! I am an outsider!"
especially when she's lived in white house for 8 years and was Senator and Secretary of State ever since. She should have used her qualification as a positive but decided to go with the opposite.

Also, her campaign focus was more on "Why we can't let Donald Trump win" more than why she's qualified for the job.

If Trump's campaign was a failure, I'd argue Hilary's campaign to be even more so.
I don't remember her ever claiming to be a political outsider. Shes been invovled in politics too long to be able to make that claim, then again every politician tries to claim that since for some reason we want people with no experience leading us.

There are lots of good reasons on why he shouldn't ever have been allowed to win. Hell, he pretty much was advocating rape. But, its Hillary, for some reason she has a ton of political baggage despite the fact that her scandle sheet isn't really that different from most long time politicians. But she has been constantly hit for it since she was the first lady. The baggage is more from the never ending barrage rather than any of them really being that noticeable.
You're smart enough to know that even if you don't remember it doesn't mean it never happened. Just google search "Hillary Clinton Outsider"and you're bound to find video clip, articles, etc.

The point of argument is simple really.. Hilary couldn't win because her campaign wasn't strong enough to overcome her political baggage. Donald Trump ran more effective campaign and won despite the sexism, racism and other isms. There really is nothing to argue about.
I don't think he "won" because he ran a stronger campaign. If anything he showed how unstable he was through the entire thing. I think that just didn't matter to a lot of people. Every now and then people want an outsider, they get tired of people who they see as part of the establishment and will vote for anyone who looks like they aren't part of the problem. Spoiler, it doesn't tend to work out. Carter was an outsider and hes considered one of the worst presidents we had in a lot of circles.

Interestingly too, Hillary had a ton of lies circulating about her also. I know someone who is profoundly alt right so I ended up seeing a decent number of those. Like Hillary was deathly ill and would die, or that the election was rigged against trump, or that she was actually a secret muslim. Yeah they got weird but it kinda worked against Obama.
 

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Worgen said:
mysecondlife said:
Worgen said:
mysecondlife said:
Worgen said:
A trump refrence at the end would have worked better. Hillary ran a good campaign, trump failed his way into winning. Mostly because he could say he was an outsider and apparently president is the only job that we want negative qualifications for.
Except Hilary played right into Trump's hands by saying "I am running to be the first women president! I am an outsider!"
especially when she's lived in white house for 8 years and was Senator and Secretary of State ever since. She should have used her qualification as a positive but decided to go with the opposite.

Also, her campaign focus was more on "Why we can't let Donald Trump win" more than why she's qualified for the job.

If Trump's campaign was a failure, I'd argue Hilary's campaign to be even more so.
I don't remember her ever claiming to be a political outsider. Shes been invovled in politics too long to be able to make that claim, then again every politician tries to claim that since for some reason we want people with no experience leading us.

There are lots of good reasons on why he shouldn't ever have been allowed to win. Hell, he pretty much was advocating rape. But, its Hillary, for some reason she has a ton of political baggage despite the fact that her scandle sheet isn't really that different from most long time politicians. But she has been constantly hit for it since she was the first lady. The baggage is more from the never ending barrage rather than any of them really being that noticeable.
You're smart enough to know that even if you don't remember it doesn't mean it never happened. Just google search "Hillary Clinton Outsider"and you're bound to find video clip, articles, etc.

The point of argument is simple really.. Hilary couldn't win because her campaign wasn't strong enough to overcome her political baggage. Donald Trump ran more effective campaign and won despite the sexism, racism and other isms. There really is nothing to argue about.
I don't think he "won" because he ran a stronger campaign. If anything he showed how unstable he was through the entire thing. I think that just didn't matter to a lot of people. Every now and then people want an outsider, they get tired of people who they see as part of the establishment and will vote for anyone who looks like they aren't part of the problem. Spoiler, it doesn't tend to work out. Carter was an outsider and hes considered one of the worst presidents we had in a lot of circles.

Interestingly too, Hillary had a ton of lies circulating about her also. I know someone who is profoundly alt right so I ended up seeing a decent number of those. Like Hillary was deathly ill and would die, or that the election was rigged against trump, or that she was actually a secret muslim. Yeah they got weird but it kinda worked against Obama.
I don't think he ran a strong campaign. But I do think his campaign was really effective in dismantling his opponents. Hence my word choice. Worked against Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz and finally Hillary Clinton.
 

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mysecondlife said:
Worgen said:
mysecondlife said:
Worgen said:
mysecondlife said:
Worgen said:
A trump refrence at the end would have worked better. Hillary ran a good campaign, trump failed his way into winning. Mostly because he could say he was an outsider and apparently president is the only job that we want negative qualifications for.
Except Hilary played right into Trump's hands by saying "I am running to be the first women president! I am an outsider!"
especially when she's lived in white house for 8 years and was Senator and Secretary of State ever since. She should have used her qualification as a positive but decided to go with the opposite.

Also, her campaign focus was more on "Why we can't let Donald Trump win" more than why she's qualified for the job.

If Trump's campaign was a failure, I'd argue Hilary's campaign to be even more so.
I don't remember her ever claiming to be a political outsider. Shes been invovled in politics too long to be able to make that claim, then again every politician tries to claim that since for some reason we want people with no experience leading us.

There are lots of good reasons on why he shouldn't ever have been allowed to win. Hell, he pretty much was advocating rape. But, its Hillary, for some reason she has a ton of political baggage despite the fact that her scandle sheet isn't really that different from most long time politicians. But she has been constantly hit for it since she was the first lady. The baggage is more from the never ending barrage rather than any of them really being that noticeable.
You're smart enough to know that even if you don't remember it doesn't mean it never happened. Just google search "Hillary Clinton Outsider"and you're bound to find video clip, articles, etc.

The point of argument is simple really.. Hilary couldn't win because her campaign wasn't strong enough to overcome her political baggage. Donald Trump ran more effective campaign and won despite the sexism, racism and other isms. There really is nothing to argue about.
I don't think he "won" because he ran a stronger campaign. If anything he showed how unstable he was through the entire thing. I think that just didn't matter to a lot of people. Every now and then people want an outsider, they get tired of people who they see as part of the establishment and will vote for anyone who looks like they aren't part of the problem. Spoiler, it doesn't tend to work out. Carter was an outsider and hes considered one of the worst presidents we had in a lot of circles.

Interestingly too, Hillary had a ton of lies circulating about her also. I know someone who is profoundly alt right so I ended up seeing a decent number of those. Like Hillary was deathly ill and would die, or that the election was rigged against trump, or that she was actually a secret muslim. Yeah they got weird but it kinda worked against Obama.
I don't think he ran a strong campaign. But I do think his campaign was really effective in dismantling his opponents. Hence my word choice. Worked against Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz and finally Hillary Clinton.
He is good at mixing tough talk with charisma. Plus hes politically an outsider and as I said before, some people will just vote for that no matter what.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
I like how Suda's origin story changes every time Yahtzee reviews one of his games.
What was it he said how Suda 51 began? One time it was the 51st attempt to bio-engineer the quirkiest auteur game designer, and another time it was a pseudonym like "Alan Smithee".
 

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As someone who doesn't give a rat's ass about the US election (or saying "rustled jimmies" in the year 2017) it sure seems like this game is just an amalgamation of mechanics put to better use in other games, with a layer of suda51 paint on top.
 

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You know, it is a bit funny. I remember how I used to be saddened by how Yahtzee would tear a second one on a game I had looked forward to, and going all "but, but, but...!" when he generalized whole groups of people to an unfair degree, just because they happened to identify with a game. Given how long forum threads those reviews would cause I think it's safe to say I wasn't alone in those feelings. Nowadays I've learnt to have a more distanced approach both to the games I'm interested in and Yahtzee's reviews. He is after all just a man in a funny hat who has his own preferences and opinions, and his opinion is just that: his opinion. And I shouldn't tie any identity to a game: just be aware that a game has flaws but it can still be worthy of love.

Judging by what people actually respond to nowadays it seems I'm not alone in this approach. The majority of the posts seem more interested in talking about the very brief political jab at the end than anything else in the review. One of the few things worthy of actually tying one's identity to, since that fundamentally is about how one thinks society should be run, a lot more important than if a game is good or not.
 

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Infinite grind cycles are how they beat the money out of you if you're invested in a game.
 

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Worgen said:
A trump refrence at the end would have worked better. Hillary ran a good campaign, trump failed his way into winning. Mostly because he could say he was an outsider and apparently president is the only job that we want negative qualifications for.
Nah, I can understand your political bias and detesting of Trump - I'm no fan of the prick, myself - but to say that Hillary ran a good campaign that ended with failing to defeat a man who was caught on tape arrogantly bragging about how he likes to go around grabbing women in their nethers is just silly. If Hillary had truly run a good campaign, then the notion of her being the historic First Female President alone would have been enough to easily sail her right into the White House.

That she couldn't become the first female president while running against a man who was a proven sexist (or at least the very least never shied away from making blatantly sexist comments) says a lot about her failings as a candidate. :^)
 

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So...Umm... Basically what the point is it's alright for the soulsborne peeps to have a blast at till it starts threatening your wallet. This is from a tightarse poor person who also somehow appreciates the soulsborne design. And when I have the option of playing between Bloodborne and Let it Die, I'll let you guess which is the more enticing. Yes, one is free, but damnit, my time is finite!
 

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Hillary won the popular vote...in the US of A.

Trump won the popular vote...in the USS of R.


Also: I don't think a guy whose claim to fame is being a dick should be saying much about anything when it comes to US politics.
 

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Darn it, Yahtzee. Can we get some more classic reviews in here please instead of all these obscure indie games nobody cares about?
 

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Darth_Payn said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
I like how Suda's origin story changes every time Yahtzee reviews one of his games.
What was it he said how Suda 51 began? One time it was the 51st attempt to bio-engineer the quirkiest auteur game designer, and another time it was a pseudonym like "Alan Smithee".
In his No More Heroes review, he's the 51st clone in an experiment to create "the world's most auteur game designer" (a joke he repeats in No More Heroes 2).
No comment in his Shadows of the Damned review.
In Lollipop Chainsaw Yahtze compares him to a friend on a perpetual drug trip, whose career you follow "because he might hurt himself or do something really funny". And here's where he starts saying Suda's trying too hard.
In Killer is Dead, he's "some kind of mythical pixie" akin to the Tooth Fairy who visits game developers at night (after being tucked in by their moms) to bestow their games with an "anarchic post-punk sensibility" by sprinkling "Morrissey's tears" on them.
In Let It Die he's just a guy named after his license plate.
I forget where he made the Alan Smithee reference (maybe in a Let's Drown Out?).
 

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Worgen said:
A trump refrence at the end would have worked better. Hillary ran a good campaign, trump failed his way into winning. Mostly because he could say he was an outsider and apparently president is the only job that we want negative qualifications for.
Nah, I can understand your political bias and detesting of Trump - I'm no fan of the prick, myself - but to say that Hillary ran a good campaign that ended with failing to defeat a man who was caught on tape arrogantly bragging about how he likes to go around grabbing women in their nethers is just silly. If Hillary had truly run a good campaign, then the notion of her being the historic First Female President alone would have been enough to easily sail her right into the White House.

That she couldn't become the first female president while running against a man who was a proven sexist (or at least the very least never shied away from making blatantly sexist comments) says a lot about her failings as a candidate. :^)
What you don't seem to understand is that the campaign against Hillary has been going since the late 90s. The fact she won the popular vote by a decent amount shows that even with all that trump only managed to win by an outdated system. She ran a good campaign, if she didn't then he wouldn't be whining about illegal votes in cali.
 

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Worgen said:
RJ 17 said:
Worgen said:
A trump refrence at the end would have worked better. Hillary ran a good campaign, trump failed his way into winning. Mostly because he could say he was an outsider and apparently president is the only job that we want negative qualifications for.
Nah, I can understand your political bias and detesting of Trump - I'm no fan of the prick, myself - but to say that Hillary ran a good campaign that ended with failing to defeat a man who was caught on tape arrogantly bragging about how he likes to go around grabbing women in their nethers is just silly. If Hillary had truly run a good campaign, then the notion of her being the historic First Female President alone would have been enough to easily sail her right into the White House.

That she couldn't become the first female president while running against a man who was a proven sexist (or at least the very least never shied away from making blatantly sexist comments) says a lot about her failings as a candidate. :^)
What you don't seem to understand is that the campaign against Hillary has been going since the late 90s. The fact she won the popular vote by a decent amount shows that even with all that trump only managed to win by an outdated system. She ran a good campaign, if she didn't then he wouldn't be whining about illegal votes in cali.
It's quite simple, really. She lost, therefor she's a failure. That she won the popular vote just means that "the campaign that's been going against her since the late 90s" had little to no impact, were it truly a factor then she would have lost in a landslide.

Blame the electoral college system, blame the people of the nation, blame the crappy government that has utterly alienated itself from the population it represents thus fostering a deep-seeded anger towards the political class (thereby prompting the desire for an "outsider" to lead), but the fact remains that no matter how you gussy it up: she failed to convince enough people that she would be better for this country than an orange-haired egotistical baboon who starts Twitter fights with anyone who criticizes him.

I'm sorry my friend, but no matter how you slice it: if you can't win against that guy, you're a failure.
 

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Worgen said:
Jacked Assassin said:
Worgen said:
A trump refrence at the end would have worked better. Hillary ran a good campaign, trump failed his way into winning. Mostly because he could say he was an outsider and apparently president is the only job that we want negative qualifications for.
Hillary who also in 2008 was known to be pro establishment.
Hillary who would change her views based on her donors.
Hillary who would pretend to back people if she thought it could get her more votes.
Hillary who could've lost to Bernie Sanders if she didn't have Democratic Establishment.
Hillary who had an easier time dismissing Black Lives Matter.
Hillary who probably only needed Wall Street to win New York.
Hillary who probably cost us our first progressive female president, Elizabeth Warren, by running.

That Hillary ran a good campaign?

Also Larry Lessig could've beaten Hillary too if Main Stream Media didn't quickly silence him.
Pro establishment doesnt mean anything by itself.
I have yet to see a politician who doesn't reflect the views of doners.
citation needed.
I've heard she stepped down in 08 for obama so she could run when his term was up so there might have been a preexisting deal kinda thing.
citation needed
Trump was losing new york no matter what. Aside from the fact they know about his crimes, new york tends to go dem.
citation needed.
Pro Establishment as in she has been backed by large corporations & banks.
The thing is Hillary was going reflect the views of 0.1% compared to Bernie who had a grass roots movement.
The Young Turks on YouTube.
Part of that deal was Debbie Wasserman Schultz who helped screw over Bernie Sanders.
The Young Turks on YouTube.
I was referring to the fact that Bernie won the majority of counties but Hillary only needed NYC.
The Young Turks on YouTube.

L377UC3 said:
Jacked Assassin said:
Main Stream Media
It's called media, bro.
Sounds like you can't tell the difference between independent media like TYT & Main Stream Media like CNN.

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Beyond all of that Bernie Sanders continues to fight for us via ourrevolution.com.
Unlike Hillary who might not until she can pretend in 2020.
 

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Jacked Assassin said:
Worgen said:
Jacked Assassin said:
Worgen said:
A trump refrence at the end would have worked better. Hillary ran a good campaign, trump failed his way into winning. Mostly because he could say he was an outsider and apparently president is the only job that we want negative qualifications for.
Hillary who also in 2008 was known to be pro establishment.
Hillary who would change her views based on her donors.
Hillary who would pretend to back people if she thought it could get her more votes.
Hillary who could've lost to Bernie Sanders if she didn't have Democratic Establishment.
Hillary who had an easier time dismissing Black Lives Matter.
Hillary who probably only needed Wall Street to win New York.
Hillary who probably cost us our first progressive female president, Elizabeth Warren, by running.

That Hillary ran a good campaign?

Also Larry Lessig could've beaten Hillary too if Main Stream Media didn't quickly silence him.
Pro establishment doesnt mean anything by itself.
I have yet to see a politician who doesn't reflect the views of doners.
citation needed.
I've heard she stepped down in 08 for obama so she could run when his term was up so there might have been a preexisting deal kinda thing.
citation needed
Trump was losing new york no matter what. Aside from the fact they know about his crimes, new york tends to go dem.
citation needed.
Pro Establishment as in she has been backed by large corporations & banks.
The thing is Hillary was going reflect the views of 0.1% compared to Bernie who had a grass roots movement.
The Young Turks on YouTube.
Part of that deal was Debbie Wasserman Schultz who helped screw over Bernie Sanders.
The Young Turks on YouTube.
I was referring to the fact that Bernie won the majority of counties but Hillary only needed NYC.
The Young Turks on YouTube.

L377UC3 said:
Jacked Assassin said:
Main Stream Media
It's called media, bro.
Sounds like you can't tell the difference between independent media like TYT & Main Stream Media like CNN.

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Beyond all of that Bernie Sanders continues to fight for us via ourrevolution.com.
Unlike Hillary who might not until she can pretend in 2020.
Your response is too complicated and I'm too drunk to respond. You should have replied earlier, I'm going to assume you are wrong.