Zero Punctuation: Mass Effect 3

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Maybe the ending of this week's Zero Punctuation was supposed to be disappointing and leave more questions raised than answered, just like the end to Mass Effect 3? :D
 

CardinalPiggles

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Yay for not spoiling the story! I know I could have just not watched it but I would rather have it spoiled for me than miss a ZP, it'd be like standing over the toilet trying not to, well, you know. Damn it, now I'm doing Yahtzee jokes!
 

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"You did say all life in the galaxy, right? Because they're leaving us alone." I haven't played the whole thing yet, but the first half of the game is everyone saying "Dude, we're dealing with the same shit, we can't help you." And you convincing them that Earth is extra super special. My big complaint about the game is that Shepard and everyone on the ship doesn't seem to realize that the aliens homes are being invaded too, so stop being so pissy when they don't help your planet out.
 

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Blueruler182 said:
"You did say all life in the galaxy, right? Because they're leaving us alone." I haven't played the whole thing yet, but the first half of the game is everyone saying "Dude, we're dealing with the same shit, we can't help you." And you convincing them that Earth is extra super special. My big complaint about the game is that Shepard and everyone on the ship doesn't seem to realize that the aliens homes are being invaded too, so stop being so pissy when they don't help your planet out.
Actually, Thessia and Sur'Kesh aren't under full Reaper attack during the first half of the game. The Reapers are just "encroaching" on their respective species' space.
 

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The thing that kills me about the ending is that they're not making high art here.

They are making an entertainment product where the PRIMARY GOAL is supposed to be pleasing the consumers of that product.

Instead of even attempting to do this they kicked every fan square in the nuts (or ovaries, as the case may be) and destroyed 5 years of a franchise in 10 lazy, idiotic, totally fucking insulting minutes.
 

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i just don't think that 4 days is really not enough to get a good scale of the game. and i disagree that it was more like a wimper, then again i was sucked into the series more than anything ever, so i maybe a little to forgiving.
 

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Soggy Toast said:
I have a feeling he didn't rip on the ending because he didn't want to agree with everyone else.
I like it better this way. I didn't want a whole minute wasted on the ending just to satiate those who think likewise.
 

ms_sunlight

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What? Could it be he didn't rip on the ending because, while the fanrage is not unjustified, the scale and venomousnous of it is completely bloody absurd and disproportionate and even Yahtzee isn't that much of a prat?
 

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Well I'm surprised about the fact that he didn't mention that not playing MP directly affects you in SP.
If he said that he'd be lying. Playing multiplayer makes it easier to get your effective military strength up, but you don't need to play the multiplayer.

However you should, because it's pretty fun.
 

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Yahtzee Croshaw said:
Mass Effect 3

This week, Zero Punctuation reviews Mass Effect 3.

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So i think every game "critic" has to say -Well, the ending wasn't so bad- nowadays. From Penny Arcade, to CAD, to zero now.... this is an annoying pattern, seeing as most gamers couldn't give a shit... but the will of the masses will slowly be swayed by these loud voices we so cherisly, foolishly, follow.
 

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I'm shocked that there was no mention of how many times you had to switch the disks in ME3. If you're someone who likes side missions (and I am.), then it was hard to tell when you had to switch. They only made you switch the disks in ME2 3 times that I counted. In ME3, I've already counted 6 times, and I don't think I'm halfway through the game yet. This breaks game flow, and takes away from the game as a whole.

Overall, from what I've played, I like ME3. I like how that the gameplay seems to move faster, BUT I haven't seen this "ending" everyone is talking about, so I might want to hold back on my full opinion of the game until then... To me, the ending of a game is supposed to be the climax, and in most cases, it's what makes the most impact on someone, and what most people will remember from their gaming experience, so if the ending is truly bad enough, it can ruin the entire thing as a whole.
 

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The ending at every stage of it expects you to believe characters teleporting around like a star trek crew and like a star trek crew pulls last minute crap right out of it's arse.

I can't accept sheperd suddenly becoming an apathetic puppet for a literal deus ex machina in the form of the "god-child" nor can I make my brain accept my crew would teleport to the normandy and they and joker would then flee just as fast as they could.

I didn't expect my shep to walk away from 3 intact so that any "happy" ending was already gone, but what I got was a color coded illogical mess that gave no answers. For an ending to a saga that every step of it's development we were told would have closure there's a remarkable lack of anything resembling it.

And then at the end it turns out your story is a tale told by a grandpa to his favorite grandson and that all you achieved not only made no difference to the ending but probably didn't happen the way you played it anyway.

Yahtzee summed the ending up perfectly in a short sentence that after harbingers beam the entire ending is a balloon slowly, squeakily letting out air as it just gets worse until a final farting noise.
 

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endtherapture said:
lord.jeff said:
I say all trilogy bashing is proven wrong simply by mentioning Toy Story, but outside of that if it's really so near impossibly hard to keep up a series past the first story, how do you explain TV shows, comics, and books then?
Lord of the Rings. The second film was the worst, first the best overall, and the third was the most emotional.
Actually, the second one did the best on rotten tomatoes.

Also, he didn't say that all trilogies were crap. Just most of them.
 

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I can't believe that Yahtzee didn't take note that instead of beating up on America or Undisclosedistan, a game is finally beating up his old country!
 

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DarkPheonix13 said:
I'm shocked that there was no mention of how many times you had to switch the disks in ME3.
Not on PC. Anyway, I got the impression from the review that he didn't do a lot of the side missions.
 

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Thunderous Cacophony said:
Qitz said:
ZP and Mass Effect 3? Well, Escapist, say good by to your servers because this will cause some trouble.
Yep, it's time to retreat to the fallout shelters. I give it 20 minutes until the thread is 100 comments long, 80 of them complaining about how he didn't trash the ending as much as they wanted him to (which he will probably do in Extra Punctuation), 10 of them complaining about the people complaining, 7 people actually trying to talk about the video, two spambots, and a brony in a pear tree.


Am I doing it right?
 

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So, I'm on my third playtrough and there is just one thing that I'm really mad about. It was enough to make me rage-quit the game.

Why did they nerf the vanguard class so much? Are they crazy?
I play on Insanity and you can't do shit with the Vanguard. Vanguard is a class that can't do shit on medium/far range. I need to come closer. But how the hell am I going to come close when the kill me the same moment I come out of the cover. The shields are pathetic.
If there is more than 1 enemy, you can't come close, you can't deal any real damage from afar. You have to fight for over 5 minutes against 5 cerberus troopers which don't even have shields.

Vanguard was really overpowered in ME1 and 2, but here it's just pathetic.

I'm gonna restart with Sentinel. At least I can pick the enemy from afar with my Black Widow.

Aside from this, I loved the game. Finished it 2 times. First time as a Technician on normal, the second time on Insanity as a Solider (looks like Solider is the most powerful class in ME3).
 

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I've always played as a soldier in the Mass Effect games. The squadmate AI is pretty lousy at combat. The squadmates are mostly useful as specialists. I use them if I need a hacker or a boss requires some special biotic ability, that kind of thing.
 

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Though I didn't play this one. I got sick of mining materials in the second. I Like how Yahtzee attacked the fact that the ME series got too big for its britches. I've said it before. I didn't see how the ME universe was going to be able to cope with its technological prowess in a realistic shooter sense. I mean if society gets to the point that interstellar travel is possible and weapons can open singularities from a handheld weapon its hard to justify the whole grit and grind of the action when automation could easily have been implemented. Obviously the justification was "because its awesome" which I tend to agree as a sci fi enthusiast. Nevertheless, when your enemy already almost purged a galaxy of sentient life and your culture is as advanced as the game I didn't see it panning out. The real conflict would be from ships and we would probably lose because as stated....The reapers destroyed a GALAXY of sentient life. The series kinda glosses over a lot of human psychology in order to justify its existence. The simplest case goes back to orbital weapon automation. Who would fight a ground war when your spaceship is worth a planet in sci fi tech? Human psych, take the path of least resistance.