Zero Punctuation: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
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Not really. Mostly just gameplay quirks and base management stuff.Multiverseman said:
I've never really followed this series, but this game doesn't look too bad. Maybe after a few inevitable patches and a good Steam sale I might give it a try.
Except for the possible game breaking bug of using Quiet as a buddy in missions 29 and 42.C117 said:
My take on Metal Gear series is that even if you've played all the games, it's kinda difficult to understand what's going on. The only possible way to enjoy them is to turn off your brain and just roll with it, never asking questions when something doesn't make sense. If you're not the sort of person who can do that . . . well, tough luck.Catasros said:
Soooo not a 10/10 then?
Yeah, I find it quite hard to distinguish between Ocelot and Not Ocelot during the briefings, cassette tapes, etc. That's one annoyance. But the rest is just great game!
And yes, you new people should be fine playing this. It's been a while since I picked up a MGS game, and it plays well as a stand alone. If you really want back story, you can listen to the audio tapes and the conversations in your base.
Yeah, I find it quite hard to distinguish between Ocelot and Not Ocelot during the briefings, cassette tapes, etc. That's one annoyance. But the rest is just great game!
And yes, you new people should be fine playing this. It's been a while since I picked up a MGS game, and it plays well as a stand alone. If you really want back story, you can listen to the audio tapes and the conversations in your base.
Catasros said:
Yes....and no. On it's own merits the game is excellent and worth playing. It has a stealth system which should set the bar for any stealth games to come. The game uses audio logs to give you the preceding story of Big Boss (Snake) but only /very/ lightly. On the one hand, the game has considerably less and smaller cut scenes than any other games in the series to the point of the same length of cut scenes as you'd have in an FPS game so the story isn't at the forefront this time.BrotherSurplice said:
However, you will miss out on a lot of the nitty gritty and reference material. Most characters know each other, will act accordingly and although the story is more or less self contained, reasons for doing things would seem unclear to someone who hasn't played the series before now and some things will just mean nothing. You will understand the story that is presented within the game, but it is part of a much larger story, which you wont.
I'd recommend picking up a copy of the MGS HD collection which will get you up to speed on Big Boss story (Snake Eater and Peace Walker which are excellent games). Its bound to be quite cheap now.
But I will say, it's the final and 7th entry in a series(Or 4th entry in Big Bosses part). Much like books or films, I question why you'd even attempt to jump onto something at the 7th installation, much less the final one.
Reminds me of a Warhammer 40k audio drama that was a growlly shouting match between a World Eater and a Flesh Tearer. Every other line was a scream of rage/denial and while one Marine spoke the other growled and snarled. It was very silly.
I too would be interested in an answer to this. Metal Gear was never a series that I was terribly invested in, but this one looks interesting.BrotherSurplice said:
Also to the review, "Grim Growly Men Growling Grimly" made me chuckle. Well Done Yahtzee.
Good video, just one point to make, you don't actually have to go back the helicopter to start missions, you can start the missions and go to the start point while in free roam at anytime. Personally my only gripes with the game are from the lack of dialogue from Big Boss, you seriously couldn't get a few more lines out there from Sutherland? BB is almost as mute as Quiet. Not really a big fan of mute protaginists at all, especially one that is important to the overall story of the whole franchise as BB.
Well spoiler from the prologue to tell you the kind of story we're dealing withCatasros said:
A fire-whale eats the helicopter trying to kill you before a man on a Unicorn starts chasing you
I have been informed by long-time fans that this makes exactly as much sense in context
Enough with the dick jokes already, they're the white noise of comedy at the expense of MGS.
But what the fuck is with the loading times? Do the MENUS have to actually load like that?
But what the fuck is with the loading times? Do the MENUS have to actually load like that?
Having done just about every major thing inside the weird world of MGS except end Peace Walker (My PSP died but I'm emulating it as we speak). My answer would be that the only building block that you are really missing is MGS3 as long as you play Ground Zeroes and to a lesser degree: Peace Walker.Catasros said:
Firstly: Story-wise, the series starts at MGS3 (Yes, that's a bit confusing and Kojima wanted to change the naming for 3 to fix that but Konami wouldn't let him). Secondly: It sets up a great deal of Big Boss' motivation for building his own PMC.
After MGS3 is Portable Ops, and Peace Walker specifically has Kaz tell Big Boss to "Fuggetaboutit" as it relates to the events there so think of that as just some pissing match between the Pentagon and CIA that Big Boss got involved in.
After PO is PO+ which is not story driven at all and is jut a refinement of PO's gameplay.
After PO+ is Peace Walker, which does have story elements that lead directly into Phantom Pain such as why Paz and Chico are relevant but the character dialog and audio tapes can catch you up on a great deal of that as well.
Gameplay-wise though: MGS5 is setup with some the least story of any major MGS so you can dive in and ignore the story if you want.