Well the tank colony doesnt respond to radio calls anymore and the metro in ST. Petersburg... well lets say that it isnt clear if all that shit in the Metro tunnels are really because of the radiation or if they have been before and now just have more tasty meals than before. There is a story of how the construction worker got eaten and the people of the next shift just found their bones.Rainboq said:In Metro 2033, you can hear several conversations talking about the metro system in St. Petersburg, and even about a small column of tanks who set up a little outpost in the wastes.KDR_11k said:I guess the "disregarding other cities" thing is just a result of the area around Moscow being so inhospitable that you have no realistic way of even checking what happened to the rest of the world. For all you know they could have turned Russia into a giant monster zoo while the rest of the world is fine and happy.
Oh god yes.Akichi Daikashima said:I'm surprised that he didn't gripe on the crappy romance with the sniper, Anna.
Seriously, to me, it was like Russian Twilight, but whatever.
I think it's because that London or New York or *pick-a-city* subways were just designed as underground train networks, whereas during the Cold War the stations of the Moscow Metro were reinforced to be fully functional nuclear fallout shelters each in their own right, complete with blast doors and all that jazz.KDR_11k said:I guess the "disregarding other cities" thing is just a result of the area around Moscow being so inhospitable that you have no realistic way of even checking what happened to the rest of the world. For all you know they could have turned Russia into a giant monster zoo while the rest of the world is fine and happy.
Well yeah, but those bits imply that there are potentially other human populations. Rural areas might have even been unaffected by the bombing due to their distance from strategic targets.Kyrdra said:Well the tank colony doesnt respond to radio calls anymore and the metro in ST. Petersburg... well lets say that it isnt clear if all that shit in the Metro tunnels are really because of the radiation or if they have been before and now just have more tasty meals than before. There is a story of how the construction worker got eaten and the people of the next shift just found their bones.Rainboq said:In Metro 2033, you can hear several conversations talking about the metro system in St. Petersburg, and even about a small column of tanks who set up a little outpost in the wastes.KDR_11k said:I guess the "disregarding other cities" thing is just a result of the area around Moscow being so inhospitable that you have no realistic way of even checking what happened to the rest of the world. For all you know they could have turned Russia into a giant monster zoo while the rest of the world is fine and happy.
That'd be a bit tricky to do. I think you know why.DarkhoIlow said:Ah, I was so very looking forward to this one from you Yahtzee and you didn't disappoint.
I really enjoyed Metro LL so much that I had to replay it again to get the good ending. I wonder if there's going to be a third game, regardless I hope it does well.
Yeah, the soppy music during the scene, and the fact she is literally the first woman Artyom sees in the game is sooo not trying to be romantic(!)Charcharo said:Whilst I have gripes with Anna as a character, this was NOT a romance. Both Artyom and her were just doing it because they expected to die any moment or at the very least soo. Whilst there were feelings into the mix, it was not Love, at least not yet.Akichi Daikashima said:I'm surprised that he didn't gripe on the crappy romance with the sniper, Anna.
Seriously, to me, it was like Russian Twilight, but whatever.
And I too, felt that the supernatural elements lost a crap-ton of meaning when they actually happened to be true and not ambiguous, ie: when Artyom was proceeding to Riga station both in the game and in the novel, it was never explained whether it was other-wordly powers that caused everyone to die/go insane, which built up the tension and made the Metro seem like a creepier place.
But in Last Light, and in 2033(the book) too, they decided to say "Oh, there ARE ghosts in the Metro, Artyom IS psychic", which killed the suspense and mystery somewhat.
I did like the lack of direction though, in some parts of the game; it evoked memories of Half-Life's level structure.
As for those powers... Artyom is no psychic. He just has more resistance to SOME of the otherworldly powers and can talk to the Dark Ones. Apart from them, there are many things that occur in the game or are spoken about by characters that fit the term "horro"quite well.
It would be, but the subtitles aren't exactly friendly in such situations. I'm happy to know a language that's more or less close to Russian (thanks to which I could understand most of the bystander's conversations and read all the signs), but most other people just won't understand most of it. And that'd be a shame, considering how much those bystander's conversations tell you about the world.Longstreet said:One advice to people that are gonna play the game, put spoken language on Russian. It's improves the game, and makes it WAY more immersive.
I Actually stopped playing the first one (With spoke on English) because i couldn't get into it. When LL was going to be released, I decided to replay it but did put spoken on Russian this time. Loved every second of it.
I heard some youtube vids where it was on English. And it was just bad. Bad bad bad bad bad.
Seriously, Russian is the way to go.
Stripers? ... I guess I understand the need for entertainment, but where would they get sexy clothes from?Charcharo said:Anyways there were also the strippers
Yeah, I really liked the Polyanka segment and that bit about the Kremlin, but I liked them because they were ambiguous; it wasn't clear if there was some fucked up shit going on, or if it was part of the Metro residents going insane.Charcharo said:There was such music :O . Anyways there were also the strippers and... and that poor woman in the dark tunnelAkichi Daikashima said:Yeah, the soppy music during the scene, and the fact she is literally the first woman Artyom sees in the game is sooo not trying to be romantic(!)Charcharo said:Whilst I have gripes with Anna as a character, this was NOT a romance. Both Artyom and her were just doing it because they expected to die any moment or at the very least soo. Whilst there were feelings into the mix, it was not Love, at least not yet.Akichi Daikashima said:I'm surprised that he didn't gripe on the crappy romance with the sniper, Anna.
Seriously, to me, it was like Russian Twilight, but whatever.
And I too, felt that the supernatural elements lost a crap-ton of meaning when they actually happened to be true and not ambiguous, ie: when Artyom was proceeding to Riga station both in the game and in the novel, it was never explained whether it was other-wordly powers that caused everyone to die/go insane, which built up the tension and made the Metro seem like a creepier place.
But in Last Light, and in 2033(the book) too, they decided to say "Oh, there ARE ghosts in the Metro, Artyom IS psychic", which killed the suspense and mystery somewhat.
I did like the lack of direction though, in some parts of the game; it evoked memories of Half-Life's level structure.
As for those powers... Artyom is no psychic. He just has more resistance to SOME of the otherworldly powers and can talk to the Dark Ones. Apart from them, there are many things that occur in the game or are spoken about by characters that fit the term "horro"quite well.
Sorry, but it really took me out of the game.
But to me, I always felt that the Metro series was strong because of how grounded it was, and that the supernatural elements just dispelled that immersion.
Also, Artyom can speak to monsters with his mind, I'm pretty sure that qualifies as psychic, at least, in the literal sense.
CAPTCHA: knock off.
DAMN IT, CAPTCHA, I AM TOO BORED TODAY TO NOT GRIPE ON SOMETHING.
Anyways, for me the supernatural elements just added to the game, especially Polyanka (book), The Dead City(game), the various stories and the Kremlin.
Anyways, IMO Metro Last Light is the finest game I have played this year, despite some gripes which I have with some sections in the final 25 minutes in the game, the character arc for Anna and some design choices. For me, a GOTY for sure (and yes I have played Infinite)
Can you really call it a 'subway' if they're just trains?1337mokro said:Public transportation is quite excellent in my little country. Though all the subways move pretty much exclusively above ground which kind of fucks us over in case of nuclear war.
Personally, I really want to get 2034, and I can't wait for 2035!Charcharo said:Yes we can, and a REAL good example of how to combine both mediums to create an even better worldAkichi Daikashima said:Yeah, I really liked the Polyanka segment and that bit about the Kremlin, but I liked them because they were ambiguous; it wasn't clear if there was some fucked up shit going on, or if it was part of the Metro residents going insane.
Bottom line: we can both agree that the games and the book (EDIT: I just noticed you have read it) are awesome.![]()
I also have read Metro 2034 too, but REALLY want to get some of those other books here.