Zero Punctuation: Metro: Last Light

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Wow, this actually looks pretty good!


Also what's up with Train Puns?
 

Vzzdak

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For that bloke you were sitting next to on the bus, the driver has the pleasure of dealing with all the live long day. So yes, "Thank you, sir" is the enthusiastic cry following by well wishes.
 

FallenMessiah88

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I like public transportation, although I only ever travel by bus. It's quite nice when it's not completely packed.

Also, train puns lol.
 

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I have the same issue with public transport! Do you say "thank you" to them? I mean, it's their job. In any case, I still think public transport could be the future of transportation if it were improved to a point where it's at least remotely usable.

On topic: does anyone get recent ZPs where the video is out of sync with the audio?
 

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themilo504 said:
Personally I kind of like public transport, does anybody know if public transport is better in the Netherlands compared Australia?
It probably is considering Australia is huge, and it's hot as fucking shit, and the Netherlands is quite tiny by comparison.
 

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Muspelheim said:
Now, I do have a theory to both why Artyom actually never speaks to anyone and why he have some resistance to psionic influence that most people around him doesn't. Maybe he's severely autistic, and can't actually speak, other than inside his head? And maybe his autism somehow gives him extra psionic resilience, so he can look at a Dark One without bad gangsta-rap immediately flooding his head.
It's kind of funny that someone brought up how silent Artyom is, because in the book he never seems to be able to shut up. It's not like they couldn't get a voice actor for him either; as he narrated the opening of each chapter in the first game.
 

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Think I might look into getting this now. Two questions for anyone who has played it:

1. Is it absolutely necessary to play Metro 2033 to understand what's going on in this one, or can a newcomer play comfortably without it?

2. Does this game play well on Xbox 360?
 

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The train puns would've been funnier if Yahtzee hadn't just made the -exact- same pun three times and then blatantly signaled it (train puns lol) after each one. Yes, stories often railroad you, we get it. But there's so many other train puns that you could shunt into the same place.
 

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This game is fantastic, buy it with no hesitation. Ridiculous amount of attention to detail, with possibly the greatest FPS idle animations [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPaKNFnb1cs]. I've been playing it completely non-lethal and it's very satisfying as a stealth game. Bloody gorgeous, too.




But I hope you're not scared of spiders, because this game has the most amount of spiders and the variety of them you'll see in quite some time. Yup, there's a spider/scorpion hybrid.



geldonyetich said:
I'll probably wait until it hits $30, 'cuz the trouble with these games is I play them once, am riveted for about 15 hours, but them I'm done with it forever.
Is there anything wrong with that? Are we this cynical that 15 hours doesn't cut it for us? What's that magical game length for a $50 game? Games aren't meant to be long-time commitments, unless if they're MMOs. You had a great experience, that should be enough.
 

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Welp, I guess I'm going to annoy the Metro 2033 fan club. Stop reading if you liked it.

I heard mixed reviews about 2033, even from STALKER-nuts like me. I picked it up cheap on Steam, and I really did try to like it. But it's not a game, its the novel 'Metro 2033'. Oh its certainly true that you have a fair amount of freedom in some areas, like that excruciating escort mission (which I passed by killing all the goo-generating things from Very Far Away), and the multiple paths you can take through the neo-Soviet vs. neo-Nazi battlefield. For much of the game, it does seem to play like a game, if a bit rail-shootery with an economy in name only. I was still going along with it; I had my disbelief suspenders set to maximum.

Then I took stock of the game's problems.

> The story's ending is telegraphed very early. Not foreshadowed; telegraphed. That's poor presentation of the story, which did deserve better. Maybe it was not obvious to every one else?

> Infinitely respawning mutant whatevers in some set-pieces. Even mutants would roam in packs. Packs usually comprise a number less than infinity. I don't get why Yahtzee didn't pick up on this, because infinite mutants is effectively another way of 'raising the stakes' or 'peril level' or whatever to 11. Shouldn't be necessary.

> I couldn't tell if Y.C. was disparaging Metro's stealth, but I certainly am. Stealth set-pieces looked good, but I was undetectable when I should have been obvious, and couldn't stealth through other areas no matter how dark I made it or careful I was. The broken glass was a neat mechanic. Stealth still broken.

> Set pieces where you cannot (usually) be killed. I'm not kidding, once I realized what I had found, I went back and found more in my saved games. That's not a game, that's Dear Esther with a violent backdrop.

> Quick Time Events. Deity Condemned Quick Time Events.

> The entire last part of the game was nothing but busywork until the 'game' got around to the big reveal that I already knew about. Complete with QTE's.

> The game kept wanking off to itself and 'Roadside Picnic'. 'Roadside Picnic' is a great story, but the self-adulation belongs in Duke Nukem Forever. Put your 'weapon' away and tell the story.

I have to conclude that Yahtzee decided that he liked 2033 because he did not play past the escort mission, and enough time had passed that he remembered it fondly. Strangely enough, I'm keen to play it again sometime just to make sure that it deserves all the aforementioned comments. I think that it is the story along with certain gameplay elements that create enough tension for it to be memorable. I like the gas mask mechanic in the above-ground sequences, but if you're having trouble reading your majik compass, chances are that you're also really thin on gas masks. Oh, and why can't you just take the gas mask off the last bloke that you killed? I'd complain about it being cutscene-heavy but they did a better job of telling the story than the gameplay did.

There are certainly worse games, I just think that the Metro 2033 story deserved better execution.
And I'm a little disappointed in Yahtzee for giving it a solid 'meh'.

I do hope that Last Light is a better game.
 

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I considered Metro a failed opportunity. I hoped that the new one would be better. Wrong... it has exactly the same problems. You're being pushed from station to station, with no possibility of exploring or choosing your patch, or even backtracking. I'd rather they made a movie about it so I can eat my pizza in peace. If you want to explore metro lines, install Fallout 3 again.

Now Metro is not a BAD game... oh wait.. yes it is. It's a bad GAME. But it's still a nice story and experience. But why Nazis? Why does it have to be Nazis again?!!! In Moscow?! Which reminds me... hoverboards aside... why don't we have a good freeroaming fps in Stalingrad? Is it so much to ask? Why do I have to install the first CoD's again and again to get my russian charge/sniping/sock-bomb fix?
 

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I use public trasnprot every day and i think it is a GREAT way to gettign around.
 

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If I recall correctly they do talk about survivors in other nations, or rather how none of them have responded to radio calls. Come to think of it that may have been in 2033.

Artyom isn't psychic, rather it's the child dark one that is psychic. It's able to project thoughts into Artyoms head or share information (like when you get predator vision). I think the link the dark ones made with Artyom when he was a child is what makes him resistant to the anomalies of the Metro and also why the dark ones can communicate with him.
 

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SkarKrow said:
Barciad said:
themilo504 said:
Personally I kind of like public transport, does anybody know if public transport is better in the Netherlands compared Australia?
The buses in Australia weren't so bad. The air con was a bit overdone. I think I ended up with pneumonia by the end of it. Public transport in the UK on the other hand, the less said about the better.
Public transport in the UK? I can summarise it very quickly: late, expensive, smells of toilet, lots of tourists and crazy people, very rude staff.

See, not much to discuss, it's just really terrible. At least when it was state owned it was terrible but free.

OT: I still need a job to pick up all the shiny new games suddenly coming out. Where were they in the run up to Xmas when I actually had money? Oh yeah, hiding from Call of Duty ¬_¬
Now that's not entirely fair. If you know exactly where you need to be two months before you set out and are inexplicably aware which of the 5 competing bus companies will have taken over the route you need in your destination area by then, then it can be merely late and smelly.
 

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ClockworkPenguin said:
SkarKrow said:
Barciad said:
themilo504 said:
Personally I kind of like public transport, does anybody know if public transport is better in the Netherlands compared Australia?
The buses in Australia weren't so bad. The air con was a bit overdone. I think I ended up with pneumonia by the end of it. Public transport in the UK on the other hand, the less said about the better.
Public transport in the UK? I can summarise it very quickly: late, expensive, smells of toilet, lots of tourists and crazy people, very rude staff.

See, not much to discuss, it's just really terrible. At least when it was state owned it was terrible but free.

OT: I still need a job to pick up all the shiny new games suddenly coming out. Where were they in the run up to Xmas when I actually had money? Oh yeah, hiding from Call of Duty ¬_¬
Now that's not entirely fair. If you know exactly where you need to be two months before you set out and are inexplicably aware which of the 5 competing bus companies will have taken over the route you need in your destination area by then, then it can be merely late and smelly.
You're right there my distinct lack of clairvoyance does make using public transport in the UK significantly more difficult. Particularly as I can't forsee when some idiot commiting suicide or some leaves on the train tracks will delay a 20 minute commute to Lancaster by 3 hours.
 

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karamazovnew said:
I considered Metro a failed opportunity. I hoped that the new one would be better. Wrong... it has exactly the same problems. You're being pushed from station to station, with no possibility of exploring or choosing your patch, or even backtracking. I'd rather they made a movie about it so I can eat my pizza in peace. If you want to explore metro lines, install Fallout 3 again.

Now Metro is not a BAD game... oh wait.. yes it is. It's a bad GAME. But it's still a nice story and experience. But why Nazis? Why does it have to be Nazis again?!!! In Moscow?! Which reminds me... hoverboards aside... why don't we have a good freeroaming fps in Stalingrad? Is it so much to ask? Why do I have to install the first CoD's again and again to get my russian charge/sniping/sock-bomb fix?
Why Nazis? Because in reality Russia has the highest concentration of Neo-Nazis in Europe. In the book it's even mentioned that they descended from an IRL group.