Zero Punctuation: Metroid Other M
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She fought Ridley in Metroid, Metroid Prime, Metroid Prime 3 and Super Metroid. Metroid: Other M takes place directly after Super Metroid which takes place after the other 3. Why would you say something like that when you have no idea what you're talking about?Nintenfan81 said:
I would assume some of them are, given the prescience of Metroid Queens.Scrumpmonkey said:Metroid is a girl?
GloatingSwine said:
It's why I make the distinction of theory versus execution. There's a lot they did right, but the parts they did wrong have got the most attention.SAMAS said:
So him being a soldier makes it more bearable? Top tier bounty hunters just get the shaft, eh? That they start out alone means they get to stay alone, not allowed to form meaningful attachments?Space Jawa said:I would assume some of them are, given the prescience of Metroid Queens.Scrumpmonkey said:Metroid is a girl?
GloatingSwine said:It's fine that Dom cared about his wife, but as a soldier who has an assignment that could very well decide the fate of all mankind? Though honestly, Marcus should get more of the blame there for not getting Dom to focus on the big picture and letting his friend pretty much repeat his own mistake.BehattedWanderer said:
Yeah, I'll stop that now. Take that a bit sarcastically, if you don't mind.
Oh, I'm a idiot? Mr. Croshaw nails almost everything on the head. Graphics and gameplay aside that it's good, it's only the long cutscenes, the boring monotone, monologues that then calls "Baby" a thousand times, Electra complex, and the cutscene that feature Samus quake in her boots for seeing Ridley.Argol228 said:
You may not see Mr. Croshaw's review as serious, I played Other M before his review, as well as the other Metroid games.
Simply don't judge a book by it's cover.
Also, something tells me you didn't play Other M.
This review makes me think about the interview with the developers of this game.
I did want to believe that those guys weren't just fulfilling some contract-binded marketing for the game, but alas, employers they were and creators they very little could be.
I did want to believe that those guys weren't just fulfilling some contract-binded marketing for the game, but alas, employers they were and creators they very little could be.
MovieBob has always had some extreme fanboy issues but they've only really become a massive detractor after he was picked up by Screwattack, for me anyway. Recently he seems to be going on tirade about how much he hates FPS and it culminates in his most recent episode where he flat out states that FPS are the reason for all of gaming's problems, without actually saying why of course. It comes to no surprise to me that he hates the thought of Metroid being an FPS, probably sees it as some sort of mutation of a beloved childhood franchise or something.Flamma Man said:
Anyway, as for the game and the review; Yahtzee seems to have pretty much hit the nail on the head. A lot of people are trying to avoid the pathetic characterization of Samus by saying that it takes her from a 1D character to a 3D character which is pretty much false, it takes her from a silent 1D character to a 1D character that bitches a lot and needs saving from the final boss, and that this is good writing. It isn't good writing folks, it's terrible. She's a whining ***** who exposits everything, basically becomes a damsel in distress during the cut scenes but turns into the hero during gameplay. The story is contrived and tries to cram it's imagery and metaphors down our throats and generally treats us like morons. That's bad writing folks, it's really bad writing and as Yahtzee is a published Author while Moviebob and his ilk are not I know who I'll trust in regards to story. Not to say that Yahtzee is always 100% right, however here he definitely has more credentials than Moviebob and random Nintendo fanboys.
I also want to address the Real Women Never Wear Dresses [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealWomenNeverWearDresses] trope that this thing is likely going to come down to, if it hasn't already. I hate that female characters have to have 'male' attributes to be considered a positive role model. She can't bake, clean, be a mother, wear dresses, have any real weaknesses and can't dare have high levels of affection otherwise she be considered sexist. I hate that for two reasons, one) it encourages cookie-cutter characters, and 2) it's complete bullshit. A good aversion of this trope is found in Sailor Moon and I actually have to recommend checking out a couple of episodes of the original Japanese version because it's interesting stuff.
Anyway, defense of Samus' new character direction seems to be falling back to this with people claiming haters don't like her because she isn't there vision of a 'perfect female protagonist' and for a female to be a liked character she has to be as close to a 'male character' as possible. Bullshit I say. Samus has gone to far into the deep end and isn't hated because she has weaknesses and emotions, but because she is those weaknesses and emotions. She has become a ball of angst and whining which is what people hate, not because she doesn't fit into the preconceived notions of what a 'feminist' female character should be.
My thoughts exactly.Argol228 said:
I had the opportunity to play the game before this review. It's a real shame that so many would see the game as "crap" rather than see that the video is critiquing the game, because it's his job to nitpick and be very critical of a game, hence video game critic.
I really enjoyed playing other M and would have never guessed that there would be such an opinion on the voice acting, as she spoke very honestly and intelligently. "Robotic" or "dry" voice? "Over the top emotional"? No, I don't think so, she was very composed and her responses were very human.
A great video, it's just a shame that they ruined Samus character. What Yahtzee said was right, she just was a woman in previous games. I always respected her character since she managed to be a woman without being one of the god awful stereotypes in the entertainment industry. I'll just go play Metroid Fusion to remember how she used to be.
You know I could have also guessed from the box art that Samus' armour was going to fall off every 5 minutes. There are seemingly 2 picturs of Saumus, one where she is not wearing her armour and another where we can see her through her face through her armour.
Admittedly, I didn't get into the Metroid franchise til just last year. I played Prime and then Fusion and enjoyed both, but I'll never understand why people almost exclusively compared this game to the Prime trilogy rather than what Metroid originally was and what even the gameplay currently pays homage to. The Prime series was the first drastic step towards drastically changing the gameplay and the reason why I think people universally accept it here in the West because we're comfortable with this style of play already. Admittedly, Retro did an amazing job regardless to keep Metroid's original feel, but if it weren't for a comfortable controller and the level of detail/execution, I would have gotten frustrated with its slow, clunky controls and annoying camera.
Haven't people been asking for Nintendo to do something radically different anyway? Be careful what you wish for.
I am pretty much indifferent to this whole squabble of RUINED FOREVER! [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuinedFOREVER] probably due to my limited time in the fanbase, so to speak. I don't see Samus' character getting ruined probably because I don't feel the connection with what little there was to character her by and therefor, don't care too much, but this thread sounds nothing more than a raging feminist column.
Haven't people been asking for Nintendo to do something radically different anyway? Be careful what you wish for.
I am pretty much indifferent to this whole squabble of RUINED FOREVER! [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuinedFOREVER] probably due to my limited time in the fanbase, so to speak. I don't see Samus' character getting ruined probably because I don't feel the connection with what little there was to character her by and therefor, don't care too much, but this thread sounds nothing more than a raging feminist column.