Zero Punctuation: Monster Hunter Tri

[Raykuza]

Hmm. I don't think he even fought the first boss, but he's almost there. Methinks Yahtzee needs to put about 20 more minutes into the game. My only problem is that for a lot of people, this is the only information they are getting about this game. They are going to take this 'review' as the final word, write off MH3 completely, and miss out on a pretty good game. Mr. Croshaw is doing his viewers a disservice by reviewing an entire game based on its tutorial.

Of course, the video was hilarious as always.

 

[milskidasith]

Dreyfuss:

You and I both know that gathering isn't 1/100th of the game. It's more like 99/100th of the game.

No, it really isn't. The gathering quests in the game take five minutes and are only mandatory for the first rank of six, while the monster hunting quests take longer, are far more numerous, and are, you know, the point of the game.

Plus, all the items you could ever want infinitely regenerate from the farm and the fishery, so the only gathering you ever *need* to do to upgrade weapons is either from dead monsters or mining ore, and you usually don't need to mine more than ten ore for a new monster set, so it's about ten minutes of gathering, at best, for a set that can last you ten or more *hours* of fighting baddies; most weapons require you to kill baddies to make, so they aren't much grinding, unless you consider playing the actual game grinding, in which case, go play Starcraft and enjoy grinding more zerglings out, or grinding out kills on CoD, or grinding out missions on Red Dead Redemption, or grinding out intel caps on TF2.

 

[crypt-creature]

Dreyfuss:

You and I both know that gathering isn't 1/100th of the game. It's more like 99/100th of the game.

If you make it out to be a chore... then guess what it turns into? A chore.
You don't need hacks for this game to enjoy it, but if all you want to do is kill crap then maybe you should be playing a different game. MH has never just been about the killing of monsters, after all Hunter is also in the title. That means, expect slow-paced times and possibly grinding.

 

[N3mis]

nice rewiev, though you missed the point with Monster Hunter......

 

[pwndnoob]

The point of the game is to make you think big monsters will come if you play long enough. It's a cruel trap. I'm surprised Yahtzee didn't note this, but we already know he doesn't have the patience (and rightfully so) for MMPORGZQXs

 

[fnph]

Wow, Yahtzee completely missed the point of the game. Me thinks he didn't play long enough to fight some of the bigger monsters.

Yeah, this. Gathering items is like 5 or 10 minutes to stock up on potions and whetstones between quests to take down huge monsters, not the central aspect of the game that Yahtzee makes it out to be.
Monster Hunter Tri's biggest problem really is the ridiculously slow start.

 

[milskidasith]

The point of the game is to make you think big monsters will come if you play long enough. It's a cruel trap. I'm surprised Yahtzee didn't note this, but we already know he doesn't have the patience (and rightfully so) for MMPORGZQXs

Big monsters do come, an hour in. And they stay for the next few dozen.

I don't see what the point of this post is. Sure, the tutorial doesn't instantly have you get smashed to pieces by a Rathalos, but when that happened in Demon's souls (well, minus the rathalos bit) Yahtzee complained about not having enough time to get used to the game, so there's clear hypocrisy here, and Yahtzee would be better served just saying he hates the genre in general.

 

[pwndnoob]

Soon he will be doing Red Dead Redemption and Super Mario Galaxy 2. Recently he has been reviewing shit games, and calling them shit. Give him some allegedly great games and then bring this topic up again. Not on a crap game like this.

 

[Turbowombat]

Wow, this after the FF13 5 hour review, my respect for Yahtzee is starting to drop. I know if it takes a game 3 hours to get into the swing of things that's a pretty big flaw, but that doesn't mean the other 30 hours are worthless. Great job Yahtzee, if you didn't even get past the Qurupeco that's like declaring Mario shit before jumping on anything's head.

Given that this game is 30 hours and a good MMO is 30 days, this is just a streamlined MMO experience, good and bad. You do boring shit for a little while then hit a difficulty curve of stupendous boss fights that you should probably bring your friends along for while you work on gear.

 

[heinieee]

you dont seem to have played very much. The beginning is really fucked and it takes arround 5hours before something happens but it gets really good. Thats a weak point i know, BUT considering that it will take arround 80hours for a normal person to finish the single player thats alright i guess. The seamonster you found is by far not the biggest monster you will encounter but it takes a bum of time to get there.
If you have preposterous amounts of free time try and play it some more.
You might like it.
Keep making stuff.
schönen tag noch

 

[Burst6]

I didn't laugh this time. It's probably because i love the monster hunter series, and think the combat is 100 times better than any game on the market. It's a special type of game, not for the type of people who want instant gratification. Yahtzee himself said he was one of those people.

This game makes me wish i had a Wii though. Monster Hunter on the PSP took up 250 hours of my life, and unlike World Of Warcraft, i dont regret it.

 

[Jonci]

Soon he will be doing Red Dead Redemption and Super Mario Galaxy 2. Recently he has been reviewing shit games, and calling them shit. Give him some allegedly great games and then bring this topic up again. Not on a crap game like this.

Excuse anyone for not respecting the opinion of a 5 post newbie that's obviously hasn't played the game and doesn't even know that this "crap game" is one of Capcom's biggest markets.

 

[Jdb]

Monster Hunter Tri is a grinding game. I despise grinding games. But I wanted to give Monster Hunter Tri a chance because I thought it would be different. I thought it would be different because in Monster Hunter Tri, you only grind armor. This is opposed to every other grinding game, where you grind levels in addition to armor. Monster Hunter Tri is also a challenging game. And I love challenging games. But in the end, I was disappointed.

Offline and Low-Rank Online modes have tolerable levels of grind. But High-Rank Online is a grind fest. It is a grind fest because you will inevitably encounter equipment that requires items that have a low drop rate - Around a 10% chance or less. And this is equipment you can't skip out on either. Expect to fight the same boss monster 20+ times just for one item.

An example of the grind fest that is High-Rank Online - I fought a boss monster 12 times just for one item in High-Rank Online. The worst part is, this was for an item that is supposed to be common - Lagiarcus Horn+. Lagiarcus Horn+ is supposed to have a 40% chance to drop. It took me 7 regular Horns, 2 Lagiarcus Plates, and 2 Lagia Sapphires before I got one Horn+. And the items I just mentioned have a drop rate that is 20% or less. And I still needed 3 more Horn+ to make the item I needed. I didn't feel like playing anymore after that.

 

[TyrannoTitan]

This was disappointing. Funny as usual, but he didn't even try to get into the game itself. Just took the first few quests and called the game shit.

The first star rank of quests has 25% hunting quests yes. The second star? 70% hunting. Third? 90%. And by the third rank, you are hunting boss monsters, not minion monsters.

Hell, go to the first star rank in online. Ta da! 80% hunting quests right from the get go.

He didn't put any effort in this review.

 

[Wolfy4226]

I agree. The Game doesn't have any reason to be on the Wii other than cheap developers.

It would have been much better on the PS3 or 360, and they could have done a lot more with it.

 

[Dreyfuss]

A sh*t game on the wii - oh no, what a surprise....When the adverts don't show the actual game, you know there's something it's trying to hide.

And yet everybody seemed to love Bioshock, Halo 3 and the like. I don't recall those games showing any gameplay in their adverts.

 

[Tinneh]

No mention of the online and/or multiplayer aspect? Still good episode as always.

On a side note to people actually take what Yatzee says at face value? I mean you'd have to be pretty silly to do that since if you did every game apart from Adventure Island Dizzy would be shit and you'd never play anything, ever.

And Portal! And 'tis a shame, I was considering getting this game, but, I forgot that it was going to be a grindfest.

EDIT: And I think (I think!) that's Fantasy World Dizzy, I could be wrong though.

 

[Lemon Of Life]

I was hoping you'd do Red Dead, but great review as always, love the analogies.

 

[Jonci]

Actually the only other time I even heard about this game was a gamesradar article that explored how this game struck a cord with him due to him being a vegetarian...

Seriously, I believe I've never heard of this game again until now. And this is the third installment?

Monster Hunter has never done well in the western markets. It's a massive success in Japan. This is the third console release, with three PSP releases, too, and a fourth PSP release scheduled. Capcom has been wary about Monster Hunter's success in the western market and nearly didn't even do this release. Luckly, they did.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

I agree. The Game doesn't have any reason to be on the Wii other than cheap developers.

It would have been much better on the PS3 or 360, and they could have done a lot more with it.

Yeah, because Capcom are the cheapest of the cheapest right? Look at any console generation. The one with the best capabilities hardware wise, have never won the 'console war'.