"This week, we repost one of Yahtzee's videos from June, as Mr Croshaw is incapacitated due to Christmas indulgence."Yahtzee Croshaw said:Next Gen Buyer's Guide
This week, Zero Punctuation takes a look at the three next gen consoles.
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I'm not disagreeing with you, but here's how I think about the value I get from my computer.Second World said:In 4 years, I can purchase a new console for $100-200 and ensure absolute compatibility, no loss of frame rate (unless the inherent port was flawed), and optimized absolutely to the games I will be buying for $10-15 each (of which I can own physical copies that I will play 20 years down the road), and I will buy up to two games per year.
From my perspective, relying on a computer I built myself to smoothly run ANY game I want for $230 for the next 8 years is far-fetched and the amount of time I could save head-scratching over finding the reverse of this could be spent earning enough money to relegate the differences.
Others have time to harp over deals, investigate product, and build electronics before they can be entertained. I choose my job. Good for them. Good for me. We all have options.
IMHO, as of both Sony and Microsoft taking after the original Xbox in using (almost) off-the-shelf (laptop) PC components, the PC vs Console argument has been rendered moot.tikalal said:XBone and PS4 have no backwards compatibility
This actually sounds really interesting and relevant to my interests. I just wish I had a better handle on what you're actually saying.QUINTIX said:Snip.
Simple. The Xbone still sucks after the changes. They moved it from "much worse than the PS4" to "slightly worse than the 360 in terms of everything but graphics." The conclusion is still the same: Don't.Arnoxthe1 said:Why was this episodewat? Microsoft reversed... all of their former policies for check-in's and used games. How is this video up to date on that?WarpZone said:Nice to see this is still up-to-date.
It's got a better controller, much slicker OS, and voice commands that actually work for the most part. And that power can serve for MUCH more than just graphics, not to mention all the sweet new IP's that are about to come out for the system. So yes, you definitely might want to check it out. This all for the most part goes for the PS4 too as well.WarpZone said:slightly worse than the 360 in terms of everything but graphics.
It can, but it won't.Arnoxthe1 said:And that power can serve for MUCH more than just graphics...
...expect more of the same, perhaps with a new name....not to mention all the sweet new IP's that are about to come out for the system.
Actually, I read a couple articles detailing how the current gen of consoles are holding back what they can really do with games and there are a lot of devs that are quoted with saying how excited they are for the next gen.Atmos Duality said:It can, but it won't.Arnoxthe1 said:And that power can serve for MUCH more than just graphics...
Because programming better AI, creating more intricate/interactive level design and making new mechanics in general takes more effort than increasing the degree of whatever Taylor Series they use in the physics engine or jacking up the gradient on the textures/lighting/geometry effects.
And the name of the game right now, at least for AAA, is "maximum pandering to the lowest common denominator at minimal effort". Which means boosting the most superficial elements of the game, like graphics and physics, while continuing to rely on the same narrowing set of "golden gameplay mechanics" they've been relying on for the last 5 years.
So...
Nah, trust me. I've seen a detailed list on all of the exclusives that are coming out for the One and they all look pretty awesome. Also, have you seen this game? [http://www.lichdom.com/index.html] It's not an exclusive for any system but man, it looks amazing and it's just indie.Atmos Duality said:...expect more of the same, perhaps with a new name.
Honestly, I can find absolutely no reason get excited for this next console generation.
Mostly, though outside of DosBox 386 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_80386] semi-emulation I am actually not talking about emulation. At all.commasplice said:What I'm getting from this is "backwards compatibility and emulation is actually a lot more feasible than we've been led to believe." Is that accurate?
Interesting. So instead of emulating old console games on the Xbone/PS4, they can do a negligible amount of work on the PC versions of those same old games and run them on the new consoles.QUINTIX said:Mostly, though outside of DosBox 386 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_80386] semi-emulation I am actually not talking about emulation. At all.commasplice said:What I'm getting from this is "backwards compatibility and emulation is actually a lot more feasible than we've been led to believe." Is that accurate?
Let me put it this way: The "uncore" parts responsible for input/output, video compositing/recording and system memory interface are custom, but the central and graphics processors [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_(microarchitecture)] are parts (technically die masks) straight from AMD's catalogue. In fact, they are available in ordinary desktops and laptops right now. When Sony said "super charged PC architecture" they meant it. Well, maybe not so much the super-charged part... anyways
Essentially, if any of [a href=http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&Subcategory=32&N=100006740 600165139 600451679 600451669&IsNodeId=1&IsPowerSearch=1]these laptops[/a] can run an old game, be it directly in Windows or running under DosBox, there is very little stopping Microsoft from allowing the game to run on Xbox One. A little more is stopping Sony from running old windows games because the OS they made for the PS4 has the same foundation (BSD Unix) as Apple, but iirc there should already be a DosBox port to BSD Unix.
When I was Googling murder rates I was pretty surprised at far they had gone done. In the 90s several countries had rates well over 100, which is insane considering the current rate in the U.S. is around 4. Now though, the highest is Honduras with a rate of 91.6, which is 22 higher then #2, El Salvador.Branindain said:Lol, you got me. Deservedly so, since you actually bothered to fact check. I certainly didn't, hence the hyperbolic figure. Nonetheless, we have [a whole lot] less.Your Fearless Captain said:I looked this up and for that to be possible you would have to live in either Monaco or Palau both of which have a murder rate of 0. It's unlikely that you live in either but it is possible.Branindain said:Oh, and as someone who lives in a country...100x less murders than America
Funny. I recall industry figureheads claiming the same exact thing about the previous generation (PS2/Xbox/Gamecube era), and that generation had even more variety in games and genres than the last one (PS3/360/Wii).Arnoxthe1 said:Actually, I read a couple articles detailing how the current gen of consoles are holding back what they can really do with games and there are a lot of devs that are quoted with saying how excited they are for the next gen.
What list?Nah, trust me. I've seen a detailed list on all of the exclusives that are coming out for the One and they all look pretty awesome.
Well...that was a random plug but...Ok?Also, have you seen this game? [http://www.lichdom.com/index.html] It's not an exclusive for any system but man, it looks amazing and it's just indie.
I really try to not be so cynical, but damn does this business make it difficult.I know that it's tempting to be cynical but you'll be a lot happier if you also consider the good things as well as the bad.