Zero Punctuation: Ninja Gaiden 3

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mGoLos

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Awww ...

I really liked the second one, hard as nails but immensely satisfying.

What a jib.
 

King of Asgaard

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Aiddon said:
MatsVS said:
"What was one of the last bastions of actual challenge..."

But! Wait! What!? Nooo...

That's Demon's- and Dark Souls and Yathzee raged against that shit for being "too hard" and "unfair" and other such assorted nonsensical bullshit.
Note the "actual" next to challenge. Dark Souls, while very good, had a really bad habit of finding the right amount of challenge...and then arbitrarily sticking three or four extra things in that shoved it the realm of "cheap." The Four Kings, some sections of Anor Londo, Blight Town, Sen's Fortress, and the Capra Demon were particularly bad in that regard
That's untrue, friend. If there's ever been a series based on cheapness, it would be Ninja Gaiden.
Also, your comment on Dark Souls being cheap is without any basis. Explain to me what's cheap about:
A boss that fights one-on-one but summons replicas if you take too long.
A swamp area.
A dungeon with traps that are easily dodged with good timing.
One of the easiest bosses. (before dogs are brought up, you can run by them quickly and get them in a choke point)
I will admit that there are two instances of cheapness; the Bed of Chaos boss fight and the Anor Londo spot where two archers are shooting at you at the same time.
But other than those, Dark Souls is pretty fair overall.
 

Lord_Gremlin

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King of Asgaard said:
Aiddon said:
MatsVS said:
"What was one of the last bastions of actual challenge..."

But! Wait! What!? Nooo...

That's Demon's- and Dark Souls and Yathzee raged against that shit for being "too hard" and "unfair" and other such assorted nonsensical bullshit.
Note the "actual" next to challenge. Dark Souls, while very good, had a really bad habit of finding the right amount of challenge...and then arbitrarily sticking three or four extra things in that shoved it the realm of "cheap." The Four Kings, some sections of Anor Londo, Blight Town, Sen's Fortress, and the Capra Demon were particularly bad in that regard
That's untrue, friend. If there's ever been a series based on cheapness, it would be Ninja Gaiden.
Also, your comment on Dark Souls being cheap is without any basis. Explain to me what's cheap about:
A boss that fights one-on-one but summons replicas if you take too long.
A swamp area.
A dungeon with traps that are easily dodged with good timing.
One of the easiest bosses. (before dogs are brought up, you can run by them quickly and get them in a choke point)
I will admit that there are two instances of cheapness; the Bed of Chaos boss fight and the Anor Londo spot where two archers are shooting at you at the same time.
But other than those, Dark Souls is pretty fair overall.
And I must say that Bed of Chaos and Anor Londo archers are not exactly cheap. Bed of Chaos uses predictable attacks and floor crumbles in predictable pattern. The only hard moment is landing on the root in the end, but that's not really cheap, just requires some precision. As for archers, you need to come prepared, aka with Ring of Fog on. Although it all may seem cheap on your first try, before you figure out how to deal with them. Although I've destroyed Bed of Chaos on my first try on my first playthrough. That's Dragon God all over again.

The Ninja Gaiden story is really sad. Ninja Gaiden Black was superb, and Ninja Gaiden Sigma even better. With Ninja Gaiden 2 Itagaki himself admitted that they ran out of time and screwed the balancing. In Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 Team Ninja tried to fix that, but since they removed the gore game failed. And now in Ninja Gaiden 3 they removed gore and difficulty...

Well, you can always buy Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus for Vita. But only Asia/Hong-Kong version is fine, as it's the only one that is uncut and has Japanese voices.
 

RDubayoo

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Yahtzee. Portraying a conflict in the Middle East isn't racism. Please stop spouting PC nonsense. "But all those guys I shoot are Arabs!" Yes, because that's who you're likely to find there, durrrrrr
 

JohnnyDelRay

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Even after the witty comments about CoD rip offs and the way the female NPC's are dressed, I laughed hardest at those stun-combo and air-combo animations for some reason. I mean really laughed. Just diddling them about with the sword, which is what cheap stun-locking combos are.

Oh and climbing with alternating shoulder buttons could be considered a CoD rip off as well, no? Unless there's another game that did that first, I don't know.

I have been playing Ninja Gaidens since the NES, and my biggest complaint was usually that they were too hard. But then, platforming ninja games have always been hard (one of my favourite was Shinobi 3 on the genesis). So I can agree with comparison if "ninja game being too easy like a FF game being too short". Still like to try it though. See how it measures up with the difficulty of the previous ones, or other 3rd person slashers like DMC or Bayonetta.
 

thepyrethatburns

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So what is it with Ninja Gaiden and the number 3?

On the Nintendo, for the U.S. version of Ghost Ship of Doom, the creators decided to double the damage and knockback, nerf the continues to 5, make every continue start you at the beginning of the level, and put in areas where you have to sacrifice one of your three lives. In other words, make the game so stupidly hard that most never beat it. (I myself have only seen the ending through the magic of the Internet.)

Now, with the new series, they decide to make the game so stupidly easy that you just sleepwalk through the whole thing.

Is this a 3 Bears things? This trilogy ends on too hard a note. This trilogy ends on too easy a note. Do we need a third trilogy to have a third game that finally strikes the balance between too hard and too easy?
 

TheSchaef

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Hmmm, I guess that makes it official, then: the best boss battle between human and T-Rex is still the cyborgasaurus battle in the original Turok, fifteen years gone.
 

RagingStormX

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I've beaten this game on Master Ninja difficulty and it was not an easy time. Did you play the game on Hero mode or Normal Yathzee?
 

CopperBoom

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I never not laugh at a ZP but this one made me laugh out loudly in a way this series has not in a few episodes, bloody great!

Shame about the lame game but it was the right lame at least to get Yahtzee's wit focused well.

Just finished his latest four part LP so I am having a very good lunch break!
 

Mahoshonen

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RDubayoo said:
Yahtzee. Portraying a conflict in the Middle East isn't racism. Please stop spouting PC nonsense. "But all those guys I shoot are Arabs!" Yes, because that's who you're likely to find there, durrrrrr
And we all know that every games must have a significant portion in the Middle East! It would be preposterous to say otherwise!
 

Hyakunin Isshu

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Why does Mr.Croshaw *always* have to complain about women's breasts in games? I guess this means he's gay or something.
 

FallenMessiah88

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Japanese game developers just confuse me nowadays. It's like they're trying to appeal to a western audience and so they try to emulate western game design and trends, but they only do it half heartedly.
 

Iampringles

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I had no idea this game even existed.

On another note, why the hell would they set part of it in Britain? It seems most incongruous.