Zero Punctuation: Scribblenauts

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Captain Pancake said:
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It seems a moot point saying a DS game is bad, seeing as most of the people who have DS's are little brothers and geriartrics who can't remember what 2+2 equals.
The sum of 2+2 is four and geriatrics can remember that. As well as "little brothers."

Where the fuck are you getting this statistic, because most of the people I see with DS's are college students and people who don't have the money to plonk on a 360 or PSP.

Think for yourself and stop being Yahtzee's sheep.
Would you mind not trying to demean me? if I say i'm sorry, will you people stop trying to execute me over such a trivial thing? you know, it may be the internet, but words still hurt regardless.
If you're going to insult both a system and the people who play it, you shouldn't be surprised nor should you complain if you get insulted in return.
Well, I'm sorry. I have been well and truly humbled. I won't voice my opinions again on a ZP review, that's for sure.
I'm not saying "don't voice your opinions." I'm saying "don't voice your opinions in an insulting manner, and then whine when people do the same to you."

On the E3 front, I think one of the reasons it got such an enthusiastic reception was that I doubt people played it for a lengthy period of time. I've never been to E3 myself but I assume you only get a certain amount of time per game. Most of the complaints Yahtzee brought up seem to be things that would start to bother players after playing for a while, hence the noticeable difference between the super-enthusiastic reception at E3 and the more lukewarm (79.46% on Game Rankings) reception when it was released.
 

justnotcricket

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Truer words have never been spoken. Why, just why does the game have to have 'big' maps you want to scroll around, but then zap back to your character the minute you stop to look at something? Why, when trying to pick up something you just created does the game assume you actually intend your character to jump into lava?

And indeed, practically every puzzle quest can be solved with a helicopter/pegasus and a rope - if you can get the rope to behave.

Man, I thought I'd hit rock bottom with Mini Ninjas last week in terms of fist-through-the-screen gameplay, but no, Scribblenauts is giving it a run for its money...
 

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Screw this review, I'm still buying this game. Funny as always, though.

On another note, who or what is Chutulu?
 

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I havn't laughed this much since the GoW2 review. I almost fell over when he talked about the star in the icecube on the back of the car.
 

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Lord_Seth said:
Captain Pancake said:
Lord_Seth said:
Captain Pancake said:
Flying-Emu said:
Captain Pancake said:
It seems a moot point saying a DS game is bad, seeing as most of the people who have DS's are little brothers and geriartrics who can't remember what 2+2 equals.
The sum of 2+2 is four and geriatrics can remember that. As well as "little brothers."

Where the fuck are you getting this statistic, because most of the people I see with DS's are college students and people who don't have the money to plonk on a 360 or PSP.

Think for yourself and stop being Yahtzee's sheep.
Would you mind not trying to demean me? if I say i'm sorry, will you people stop trying to execute me over such a trivial thing? you know, it may be the internet, but words still hurt regardless.
If you're going to insult both a system and the people who play it, you shouldn't be surprised nor should you complain if you get insulted in return.
Well, I'm sorry. I have been well and truly humbled. I won't voice my opinions again on a ZP review, that's for sure.
I'm not saying "don't voice your opinions." I'm saying "don't voice your opinions in an insulting manner, and then whine when people do the same to you."
Well, I really don't know what to say. I can only ask myself why I would spend so much time on an internet forum arguing with people I don't know or care to know, when there are much more important things to do in life. I have friends that would be willing to spend time with me, yet instead I use it here. And there's the crunch. I really don't even know why I come here anymore, and this argument is testament to the ultimate triviality of the matter. Will this mean goodbye? who knows. Does anybody here care? not for me.
 

Diggah

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Showing your age with a comment about Bob Monkhouse :) Just as long as you're not mentioning Russ Abbot we'll be ok.
 

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Kage Me said:
On another note, who or what is Chutulu?
Look up HP Lovecraft (oh and is Cthulhu ;) ) .. actually don't its quite disturbing. Essentially big demon thing.
 

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I actually love this game, but I do agree that there are some annoying flaws. Also, I should look up Cthulu some time. When I summoned him, he looked freakin' cool.
 

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My favourite summons as I call them are God, the Devil and Death, all fighting in a death match cage with of course our all star champion Cthulu.

Than again I got Scribblenauts for free so I don't have the 45 dollar drag down tugging at the fun of being creative by summoning an axe, a top hat, a saddle and a polar bear and go Conan the Barbarian on the NPC's ass.
 

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ZZoMBiE13 said:
I had high hopes for Scribblenauts. But I'm glad I didn't buy it on day one. Thanks Yahtzee!
Wow you people are just plain stupid -.- following 1 single persons review like they're god. I LOVED scribblenauts. X play gave darkest of days 1 out of 5. BUT it was just really good and i enjoyed it. Yatzee has good points but my point is you twats decide for yourself. so please go back to your dark rooms and play Halo ( ya fan boys). Nintendo is a perfectly good company. Oh btw dont you just love this long rant. FLAME ON!!!!!!!
 

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Captain Pancake said:
Would you mind not trying to demean me? if I say i'm sorry, will you people stop trying to execute me over such a trivial thing? you know, it may be the internet, but words still hurt regardless.
I apologize. Just don't make wide, sweeping statements like that without source.
Journeythroughhell said:
First of all, it's funny that you explain the point of the game to a professional reviewer and think you're 100% right. If a game should encourage different approaches and creativity, it at least shouldn't be broken. By the way, it's fucking irritating to hear the words "your argument is flawed and idiotic". I mean, I disagree with Yahtzee on a lot of games but I don't just outright say that he is wrong and I am right.
Yahtzee is a critic, it is his job to point out the flaws of the game he is reviewing. Still, he does enjoy games (Batman: Arkham Asylum, Cod 4, Portal, Burnout Paradise etc.) that suit him much better than an improperly functioning sandbox.
It's funny that you assume that, because he's a critic, he's correct. The game is not broken in any way; as I said before, the only people who complain of this sort of thing lack the creativity necessary to pull the full level of enjoyment from the game. Have you played Scribblenauts? I'm assuming not. Remember that Yahtzee is paid to do these things; if his ratings start to fall, he loses his job. Therefore, he's almost certain to care more about entertainment than actual journalistic quality.

You want a really unbiased review? Visit the User Reviews section of the forums. That's where you'll find reviews that are at least mildly reliable. Or you could, you know, form your own opinion.
chalkin said:
I don't see where all the "idiotic" parts are coming from. Yahtzee never made any flawed "arguments", he simply said that the game isn't fun because if someone has every means to achieve something, it just doesn't hit them as fun because certain people probably need limits to a game in order to generate fun. Even in the Sims, the omnipotent player has limits to what they can do, measured in simoleons. He never personally assailed anyone who likes the game and I certainly don't see a reason why anyone who likes the game would rage over criticism of a game by a game critic.

Unless the designers of Scribblenauts are paying you a large sum of money to put a shield over their game on escapistmagazine.com, none of that was necessary. Moreover, none of his arguments were flawed. Most people, even those who enjoy the game, agree that the controls are screwed up and him not finding the game fun is just his opinion. Needless to say, when he told the designers of the game to look up the definition of "fun" at the end of the video, he was being facetious while accrediting to his dislike of the game.

By the way, what's this sense of freedom that you speak of when the one and only goal in the game is to get the starites? That just sounds a lot like Super Mario (hey I'm alluding to Super Mario again) with extra props. Or, if you didn't like my analogy with Super Mario, we can use your own: that just sounds a lot like playing World of Warcraft and raiding all the end game instances with 24 priests and a rogue; it's wacky.
I'm assuming you haven't played the game, since you don't understand the "sense of freedom". It's simply awe-inspiring how much you are able to do; if you can think of a solution to a puzzle, 99% of the time, you can try it. Yahtzee completely glossed over that in his review in favour of trashing on the control scheme (which, as I've stated earlier, takes roughly five puzzles to get control of) and the ability to solve every puzzle the same way. Which is hilarious, considering that the point of the game is not to "win", which is something that we as Westerners seem to have difficulty grasping.

That's my gripe. That he avoids talking about the positive aspects of a game in favour of trashing the most minute criticisms. That is idiocy. Or, some as some might put it, entertainment.

The problem is that most people don't realize that his reviews aren't meant to be unbiased; Yahtzee goes into a review looking for nothing but flaws. He doesn't care about the positive aspects, only destroying it to satiate his sheep.
Ramthundar said:
Scribblenauts is one of those few games that gives you almost as much choice as Life does. If you just chose the easy way out, that's your own fault, not the games.
So great it had to be said twice. Excellent way to put it, Ramthundar.
 

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I'm assuming you haven't played the game, since you don't understand the "sense of freedom". It's simply awe-inspiring how much you are able to do; if you can think of a solution to a puzzle, 99% of the time, you can try it. Yahtzee completely glossed over that in his review in favour of trashing on the control scheme (which, as I've stated earlier, takes roughly five puzzles to get control of) and the ability to solve every puzzle the same way. Which is hilarious, considering that the point of the game is not to "win", which is something that we as Westerners seem to have difficulty grasping.

That's my gripe. That he avoids talking about the positive aspects of a game in favour of trashing the most minute criticisms. That is idiocy. Or, some as some might put it, entertainment.

The problem is that most people don't realize that his reviews aren't meant to be unbiased; Yahtzee goes into a review looking for nothing but flaws. He doesn't care about the positive aspects, only destroying it to satiate his sheep.
I think the issue you're having with Yahtzee is that you're having a hard time to grasp the fact that he criticises games. It's his job, he gets paid for it; it's not idiocy. Yes, it is entertaining to watch him pick apart various mainstream games; why else would you, along with presumably hundreds of thousands of other dedicated viewers, watch his videos? If you watch his videos to complain about how he doesn't mention some of the positive aspects of the game, that would be idiocy.

No, I haven't played the game. I don't doubt that the amount of freedom you have in the game isn't what the game is advertised to be; but neither does Yahtzee. He complained about the controls stating that it would have been better to just move the guy with the analog (left; right; up; down) buttons. I agree with that. I've never been a fan of point and click games (with the exception of Diablo 2) either.

Again, I just wanted to stress that it's probably true that Yahtzee criticises games for a living. If you wanted to read a reviewer talk about all the positive aspects of the game (although I can't really imagine why unless you have your own doubts about the game), then go read one of the reviews which praise the games; they're all over the internet.
 

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chalkin said:
I think the issue you're having with Yahtzee is that you're having a hard time to grasp the fact that he criticises games. It's his job, he gets paid for it; it's not idiocy. Yes, it is entertaining to watch him pick apart various mainstream games; why else would you, along with presumably hundreds of thousands of other dedicated viewers, watch his videos? If you watch his videos to complain about how he doesn't mention some of the positive aspects of the game, that would be idiocy.
hey, don't discourage discussion like that. do you really believe that there wouldn't be plenty of people that complain. I love complaining, and the complainers have plenty to say because they're not agreeing with the base topic

I mean, you don't want only the "sheepy" people to post do you? because in the end, without the complainers there's no discussion right? just nods of approval, bleh, people can be much more interesting than that


also, just to be on topic

I still don't like the physics at some points, completely random things can happen which leads to the repeated restarting of levels
 

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Flying-Emu said:
Journeythroughhell said:
First of all, it's funny that you explain the point of the game to a professional reviewer and think you're 100% right. If a game should encourage different approaches and creativity, it at least shouldn't be broken. By the way, it's fucking irritating to hear the words "your argument is flawed and idiotic". I mean, I disagree with Yahtzee on a lot of games but I don't just outright say that he is wrong and I am right.
Yahtzee is a critic, it is his job to point out the flaws of the game he is reviewing. Still, he does enjoy games (Batman: Arkham Asylum, Cod 4, Portal, Burnout Paradise etc.) that suit him much better than an improperly functioning sandbox.
It's funny that you assume that, because he's a critic, he's correct. The game is not broken in any way; as I said before, the only people who complain of this sort of thing lack the creativity necessary to pull the full level of enjoyment from the game. Have you played Scribblenauts? I'm assuming not. Remember that Yahtzee is paid to do these things; if his ratings start to fall, he loses his job. Therefore, he's almost certain to care more about entertainment than actual journalistic quality.

You want a really unbiased review? Visit the User Reviews section of the forums. That's where you'll find reviews that are at least mildly reliable. Or you could, you know, form your own opinion.
Oh' that's kind of unfair, I've told you that my opinion is that Yahtzee is right. And I didn't assume that he is always correct, I just said that he is, in fact, a professional at that which means that you could at least respect his opinion. To answer your question, I've never played Scribblenauts due to me not having a DS but I did watch gameplay videos and they looked pretty average. I know I can't form and educated opinion like that but it's not your opinion I dislike but your rather unfair accusations of Yahtzee because he dared to review something you've happened to like.
 

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hey, every action has an equal and opposite reaction, yeah?

Yatzee reviews and the people analyse his opinions and it leads to a back and forth. I usually like debate but it tends to grate when people debate about the purpose of debating

such as what I'm probably doing right now maybe
 

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ha knew it
gamespot have been speaking this game up since e3 about how amazing it is and i knew it would be rubbish.
(i believe in some award of the show thing it got more best ... of show than any other game im thinking what any game is better!)(that may of been ign though)
 

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Synetric said:
Brilliance ^^ Please review Wet
well im not sure itll be alowd as the games so bad itlld be like beating a rearded child in a hospital bed after surgery.

(yahtzee open with this to ur wet review)
(and lol i bet if he read this hes gunna go on about people telling him not to tell him how to do his job)