Zero Punctuation: Sonic Generations
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Well I never really liked Sonic games. To me they were always kinda shit. Too fast to see whats going on, confusing level-design and some traps and enemies you could only dodge by having clairvoiance.
In spite of that I love Sonic in more then a few perverted ways.
In spite of that I love Sonic in more then a few perverted ways.
Lol, the review goes with the ad at the start. Probably local for me (ad according to your location), but having an ISP who's ads are for 'fastest speed of anyone' while recently losing at court for trottling that speed for game players, doesn't bode well for anything coming after.
Ha! As if something as mindnumbing as the internet could possibly hinder my escape!PunkRex said:
*Walks away*
OOOH!! Nostalgia!
*Few more steps*
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*SQUEEEEEE* PONIES
Well I like to think that THIS game is the exception.oktalist said:
I mean it captures all the nostalgia that those Rose-tinted Glasses wearing bastards crave so much along with the modern update and repaired mechanics from Sonic Unleashed.
I mean I'm freaking happy that I don't have to die millions of times over to know whether to go one way or another now. I can go fast and avoid whatever obstacles are coming.
Boss fights were enjoyable except for the last one. I don't know wtf it is with Sonic the Hedgehog, but their good to bad last boss ratio is severely in favor of bad and lackluster
Yeah, the plot is silly. Its best to ignore it. but the gameplay and level design were great. They captured the essence of sonic, and used mechanics that worked well. The speed boost thing works great, and feels like a very sonic-like ability. The levels have all the diverging paths and secret routes I would expect for sonic, and manage to work on multiple levels; you can play through them in a more careful manner, esp. when you are still learning, but even once you have learned the level, running through it at top speed brings in a new challenge all its own. It captured the very essence of the old sonics, reproduced it with the 2d levels, and properly integrated it into the 3d levels.
Fun video, Yahtzee, you charismatic stallion. I feel blessed not to have experienced Sonic beyond the original Sonic game(which was fun) and Sonic and Knuckles(which didn't make sense to me for some reason).
He wears that hat for everything. And by everything I mean eve-ry-thing.008Zulu said:
Wow. I was really not happy to see yathzee review this game but I'm kind of relieved that people did indeed like it. Gameinformer gave it a six (a bad review because that's how broken scores are) and some people mailed them about it. One person found there choices to be hypocritical in terms of other games who were equally guilty of sonic generation's faults. While the other just ranted and decided to buy sonic generations out of Spite. In a convenient manner they didn't address the valid complaint and mocked the rant (the people who write for Nintendo power do this too so maybe it's a writer thing).
When it comes to Sonic I just don't want to hear it anymore. Good reviews are fine. Bad reviews are reasonable. Nothing would be preferable.
When it comes to Sonic I just don't want to hear it anymore. Good reviews are fine. Bad reviews are reasonable. Nothing would be preferable.
you know, going through these comments I see a lot of people bashing Yahtzee for "not liking the game." But...it didn't come across that way for me, I mean, we all love him for his endless snark and how he finds ways to bash on all the stuff he reviews, so OF COURSE he's going to say stuff like that even if he LIKES a game. And despite all the constant bashing he did have a few nice things to say about it, which for him is like high praise. You probably won't find a bigger Sonic fan than me out there but I'm not going to get offended when someone says something negative about a game.
Actually, those Sonic games have been re-released on every system under the sun. First in a compilation on the Sega Saturn, then in the Sonic Mega Collection for Gamecube, PS2, PC, and Xbox, then as the Sonic Classic Collection for DS, and now you can buy them individually on XBLA, PSN, and Steam. Sonic 3 & Knuckles by itself has gotten no less than 4 PC releases over the decades.Sabrestar said:
Anyway, I'll add my voice to those praising Generations, it was the most fun I'd had with a Sonic game since I was 8.
apart from the fact that sonic has a horrible fanbase and history of 3d games Yatzee didn't really review the game. He pretty much kept saying soinc sucked, sonicc kept sucking, sonic sucks now, sonic will suck forever, etc. Well i played the game and i had fun and ran through beautifull stages at light speed without falling off rails or ramps for the first time.
When talking about stagnant franchises he does tend to pad out his episodes with broader topics, but I thought he made a solid amount of points on this title:That Greek Guy said:
You can agree or disagree with that, but he made a fair amount of points.
- Why does everyone see this from a single point of view? The 3d and 2d stages are equally fun and if you prefere one better than the other its you. For example i like the 3d stages WAY more than the classic ones. But i realize that that's just my personal preference and it doesn't mean that one is better than the other.Marik Bentusi said:
-The story is okay. Sonic team knows that no one buys sonic games for their story and no one should. The story has chaos emeralds eggman, sonic and tails playing the only main roles. Looks perfectly fine for me. The side characters make so little of an appearance and are so insignificant that i believe they are not even worth mentioning.
-What's this about the hub? Do you really think it matters? Did you personally have a problem with it because i find it fun to do a little platforming to get to the side missions and run to select a stage.If your point is that its nothing special i agree but a mediocre hub cant be a major flaw in any game.
-Its funny because from what i understand you have played and are familiar with old 2d sonic but you get confused with the play styles. Well my first sonic game was sonic adventure 1 but in the classic stages i didnt have a single issue. It felt perfect and i never got confused when switching sonics so i dont know what to say about that. Draw your own conclusion.
-The collectibles can be a little too hard sometimes but it adds to the challenge because they are located in the hardest/quickest routes of the level.
-Why do people care so much about them. They so barely make an appearence and even the ones you fight dont get any damn lines. I don't think they could have downplayed them more without making them disappear.
I'm genuinely disappointed that he didn't like this...oh well, time to play Rooftop Run Act 2 for the umpteenth time to cheer myself up (seriously, I fucking love that level)
Also, SEGA, why did you feel like you needed to 're-record' the Sonic 3 & Knuckles unlockable music? I have all those tracks recorded in their original form on my laptop in high-quality if you want them, all you had to do was ask.
Also, SEGA, why did you feel like you needed to 're-record' the Sonic 3 & Knuckles unlockable music? I have all those tracks recorded in their original form on my laptop in high-quality if you want them, all you had to do was ask.