Zero Punctuation: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed

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Nohra

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MrLefty post=6.73484.799924 said:
I wouldn't be too optimistic about the Xbox 360 version, since it is also whole host of reasons [http://whengamessuck.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/star-wars-the-force-unleashed-xbox-360/] which make me wonder if the designers ever actually played the game before they shipped it.
And that reviewer seemed to be complaining about the fact that the game was balanced instead of letting him kill everything in one hit with any ability. DEAR GOD, A GAME THAT TRIES TO BALANCE OUT SOME OF THE SUPER POWERFUL ATTACKS YOU GET FOR THE SAKE OF MAKING THE GAME SOMEWHAT OF A CHALLENGE?! PAN IT!

Seriously though, the game had some flaws, but trying to keep you from going through the game on auto pilot force pushing everything off a cliff is perfectly fine. And the QTEs, while a bit obnoxious, were very consistent, and rewarded you with some really neat miniature cutscenes (though they got a bit repetitive).

Christ, is this what the gaming community has become? Bitching about every little thing possible that might fly in the face of Common Sense and/or Free Will? Is this why Boregasms like Halo 3 that play it extremely safe in terms of ground treaded get perfect tens?
 

Mikazuki

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Everyone kinda knew already that TFU would be complete and utter shit, but this only confirms it. I guess I'll just have to wait untill Wrath of the Lich King to come out.
 

Yash

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I liked the review and agreed with it for the most part, however, the Wii shouldn't be blamed for the game's faults. I looked up all of the games that Krome Studios has developed and none stuck out to me as being, well... good. Some of these developers were able to produce amazing games on the PS2, but the Wii comes around and it's "Oops, the specs are too low! Guess we can't make anything good~" and the whole industry buys into it.

Don't worry about the different versions, I played the 360 version and I'd say it's a pretty bad game across the board. It's a shame that LucasArts has come to a point where all they can turn a profit on are their half-baked Star Wars games.
 

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I liked the review and agreed with it for the most part, however, the Wii shouldn't be blamed for the game's faults.
Yes it should.
Everyone kinda knew already that TFU would be complete and utter shit,
*force chokes Mikazuki*
MrLefty post=6.73484.799924 said:
I wouldn't be too optimistic about the Xbox 360 version, since it is also whole host of reasons [http://whengamessuck.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/star-wars-the-force-unleashed-xbox-360/] which make me wonder if the designers ever actually played the game before they shipped it.
That reviewer is an asshat. The lightsaber being to weak is not valid when talking about "the force unleashed". Most enemies who are invincible to certain force attacks can be damaged by others. The quick time events are implemented nicely. I have no fucking clue what he was talking about when reffering to bringing down the star destroyer, I followed the commands perfectly and brought it down.
 

The Dream Walker

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I never played the Wii version, but i heard the controls were aweful. I played the PS3 version. The graphics looked stunning and the cinematics were badass! The apprentice is a really kool character and some the outfits/lightsaber blades you unlock look amazing. I gotta admit; fighting and killing darth vader on the deathstar with a sith robe and a black bladed, yes BLACK BLADED lightsaber was one hell of an epic time. The game pretty much played like a movie..... and thats why I can't recommend that any of you buy it. It was TOO FUCKING SHORT!! with absolutely no replay value whatsoever. There were also several bugs in the game which im sure a lot of gamers noticed, but that didn't stop me from having an awesome time. Don't get me wrong force was a really fun game, but it was just too damn short.
Also, in order to get the most out of this game you really needed the guide which just added another 20 bucks to the price tag. This game is definately worth a rent, but don't buy it. At the end of the day, I guess I just wan't another KOTOR game to come out and not have as many flaws as the second.
Im done, sorry for wasting the time of the poor fuckers who read this.
 

JojjeE

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I dunno what you're talking about, the game is a barrel of fun.
Well, on the 360 anyway. The Wii I'm not so sure about, I didn't get the game for the Wii..
 

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yourkie1921 post=6.73484.801740 said:
I liked the review and agreed with it for the most part, however, the Wii shouldn't be blamed for the game's faults.
Yes it should.
Everyone kinda knew already that TFU would be complete and utter shit,
*force chokes Mikazuki*
MrLefty post=6.73484.799924 said:
I wouldn't be too optimistic about the Xbox 360 version, since it is also whole host of reasons [http://whengamessuck.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/star-wars-the-force-unleashed-xbox-360/] which make me wonder if the designers ever actually played the game before they shipped it.
That reviewer is an asshat. The lightsaber being to weak is not valid when talking about "the force unleashed". Most enemies who are invincible to certain force attacks can be damaged by others. The quick time events are implemented nicely. I have no fucking clue what he was talking about when reffering to bringing down the star destroyer, I followed the commands perfectly and brought it down.
You've also gained my respect.
 

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COR 2000 post=6.73484.801811 said:
yourkie1921 post=6.73484.801740 said:
I liked the review and agreed with it for the most part, however, the Wii shouldn't be blamed for the game's faults.
Yes it should.
Everyone kinda knew already that TFU would be complete and utter shit,
*force chokes Mikazuki*
MrLefty post=6.73484.799924 said:
I wouldn't be too optimistic about the Xbox 360 version, since it is also whole host of reasons [http://whengamessuck.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/star-wars-the-force-unleashed-xbox-360/] which make me wonder if the designers ever actually played the game before they shipped it.
That reviewer is an asshat. The lightsaber being to weak is not valid when talking about "the force unleashed". Most enemies who are invincible to certain force attacks can be damaged by others. The quick time events are implemented nicely. I have no fucking clue what he was talking about when reffering to bringing down the star destroyer, I followed the commands perfectly and brought it down.
You've also gained my respect.
I second this.
 

COR 2000

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The_Oracle post=6.73484.801832 said:
COR 2000 post=6.73484.801811 said:
yourkie1921 post=6.73484.801740 said:
I liked the review and agreed with it for the most part, however, the Wii shouldn't be blamed for the game's faults.
Yes it should.
Everyone kinda knew already that TFU would be complete and utter shit,
*force chokes Mikazuki*
MrLefty post=6.73484.799924 said:
I wouldn't be too optimistic about the Xbox 360 version, since it is also whole host of reasons [http://whengamessuck.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/star-wars-the-force-unleashed-xbox-360/] which make me wonder if the designers ever actually played the game before they shipped it.
That reviewer is an asshat. The lightsaber being to weak is not valid when talking about "the force unleashed". Most enemies who are invincible to certain force attacks can be damaged by others. The quick time events are implemented nicely. I have no fucking clue what he was talking about when reffering to bringing down the star destroyer, I followed the commands perfectly and brought it down.
You've also gained my respect.
I second this.
You now have fully earned my respect too, Oracle.

EDIT: Also, that reviewer is just a whiny, insignificant little S(Explicit).
 

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From what I've heard and got from the demo, the 360 and PS3 versions, while a step up don't live up to the hype either...
 

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ok i can totally understand the whole lucasarts should stop milking star wars thing it is beggining to annoy everyone..... but why does everyone rip on the prequel trilogy... sure they weren't perfect (nothing and noone is not even yahtzee) but they made the story feel.... complete.....
 

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COR 2000 post=6.73484.801836 said:
The_Oracle post=6.73484.801832 said:
COR 2000 post=6.73484.801811 said:
yourkie1921 post=6.73484.801740 said:
I liked the review and agreed with it for the most part, however, the Wii shouldn't be blamed for the game's faults.
Yes it should.
Everyone kinda knew already that TFU would be complete and utter shit,
*force chokes Mikazuki*
MrLefty post=6.73484.799924 said:
I wouldn't be too optimistic about the Xbox 360 version, since it is also whole host of reasons [http://whengamessuck.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/star-wars-the-force-unleashed-xbox-360/] which make me wonder if the designers ever actually played the game before they shipped it.
That reviewer is an asshat. The lightsaber being to weak is not valid when talking about "the force unleashed". Most enemies who are invincible to certain force attacks can be damaged by others. The quick time events are implemented nicely. I have no fucking clue what he was talking about when reffering to bringing down the star destroyer, I followed the commands perfectly and brought it down.
You've also gained my respect.
I second this.
You now have fully earned my respect too, Oracle.
:D

If only I could have an ego sig.....alas, 'twasn't meant to be.
 

yourkie1921

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The_Oracle post=6.73484.801832 said:
COR 2000 post=6.73484.801811 said:
yourkie1921 post=6.73484.801740 said:
I liked the review and agreed with it for the most part, however, the Wii shouldn't be blamed for the game's faults.
Yes it should.
Everyone kinda knew already that TFU would be complete and utter shit,
*force chokes Mikazuki*
MrLefty post=6.73484.799924 said:
I wouldn't be too optimistic about the Xbox 360 version, since it is also whole host of reasons [http://whengamessuck.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/star-wars-the-force-unleashed-xbox-360/] which make me wonder if the designers ever actually played the game before they shipped it.
That reviewer is an asshat. The lightsaber being to weak is not valid when talking about "the force unleashed". Most enemies who are invincible to certain force attacks can be damaged by others. The quick time events are implemented nicely. I have no fucking clue what he was talking about when reffering to bringing down the star destroyer, I followed the commands perfectly and brought it down.
You've also gained my respect.
I second this.
Thank you very much.
 

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This has dissolved into Star Wars fan boys protecting the pre-quel movies. Which is just plain sad, when somebody writes that much it's just a big message to me that you have too much time on your hands and I'm not gonna read it. So there.
 

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COR 2000 post=6.73484.800973 said:
Well, it's kind of hard to articulate this in a short period of time, but I think the prequels suffered largely from being unnecessary. I think the backstory was sufficiently explained in the original trilogy, and that the prequels were pretty repetitive and superfluous. They added nothing new and had far more noticeable flaws. In the end, I think this guy's YouTube summary of all three films says it better than I could. Feel free to watch it if you want.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=6ACD497626B01244

Also, my problem with them not rescuing Anakin's mom does not apply to the first film. It makes sense there - they have limited resources and time. But for them not to have done anything by the time the second film rolled around, when they had all the time in the world to do it, was just stupid.

Additionally, they had evidence of a conspiracy against them that went beyond what Dooku had told them. Like the fact that they could link the creation of the army TO ONE OF THE SEPARATISTS.
 

COR 2000

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Shadow-Knight post=6.73484.801888 said:
This has dissolved into Star Wars fan boys protecting the pre-quel movies. Which is just plain sad, when somebody writes that much it's just a big message to me that you have too much time on your hands and I'm not gonna read it. So there.
Well, I've obviously have school off for Thursday and friday, and I have noticed a lot of flaming here, especially from me. I'm just sensitive about this topic because I grew up with these prequels and seeing it flamed by everyone isn't the most pleasant sight for me. For those who do defend it though(I'm looking at you, Bakery, Oracle and Yourkie), at least you guys kept me from losing faith in the majority of the Escapist.
 

Yash

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Yourkie1921 said:
Yes it should.
No, it shouldn't.

There's nothing preventing a great developer from making a great game on the Wii.

There is something preventing a shitty developer from making a great game on the Wii, and I'll give you a hint: it's not the Wii.
 

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Yash post=6.73484.802005 said:
COR 2000 post=6.73484.801811 said:
Yes it should.
No, it shouldn't.

There's nothing preventing a great developer from making a great game on the Wii.

There is something preventing a shitty developer from making a great game on the Wii, and I'll give you a hint: it's not the Wii.
That wasn't me saying that, you idiot, it was yourkie who said that.
 

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Geo Da Sponge post=6.73484.801379 said:
Interesting thing I noticed while playing through the Xbox 360 version of The Force Unleashed; you can find Jar-Jar frozen in carbonite in the Imperial Commander's room on Kasshyk. Ok, I don't know for certain it's Jar-Jar, it could ust be any gungan, but his frozen look of suprise and terror suggests it's the idiot we all learned to hate.

It may well be the ultimate fan service in the history of man.
Tonight, I will pray that this is the case.
 

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Nohra post=6.73484.801587 said:
MrLefty post=6.73484.799924 said:
I wouldn't be too optimistic about the Xbox 360 version, since it is also whole host of reasons [http://whengamessuck.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/star-wars-the-force-unleashed-xbox-360/] which make me wonder if the designers ever actually played the game before they shipped it.
And that reviewer seemed to be complaining about the fact that the game was balanced instead of letting him kill everything in one hit with any ability. DEAR GOD, A GAME THAT TRIES TO BALANCE OUT SOME OF THE SUPER POWERFUL ATTACKS YOU GET FOR THE SAKE OF MAKING THE GAME SOMEWHAT OF A CHALLENGE?! PAN IT!

Seriously though, the game had some flaws, but trying to keep you from going through the game on auto pilot force pushing everything off a cliff is perfectly fine. And the QTEs, while a bit obnoxious, were very consistent, and rewarded you with some really neat miniature cutscenes (though they got a bit repetitive).

Christ, is this what the gaming community has become? Bitching about every little thing possible that might fly in the face of Common Sense and/or Free Will? Is this why Boregasms like Halo 3 that play it extremely safe in terms of ground treaded get perfect tens?
Actually, TFU played it extremely safe, just ripping off GOW and adding a star wars layer. Only that's not what they promised...

As for the challenge - no-one's suggesting that it should be piss easy just because you're an overpowered Force user. But the game designers need to come up with better ways of providing a challenge than just arbitrarily making enemies immune from certain attacks just because they say so. Think laterally for god sake, it's your job. Force lightning seems to take a lot of concentration, so maybe make it that you can barely move whilst using it. Enemies could swarm you or shoot you from behind. Some enemies could be very agile. Find challenges that are consistent with the basic principle on which the development team claimed to be developing the game - "kicking arse with the Force".

I mean, think about the universe in which you're setting the game. Imagine you WERE a Sith with these powers - what would you actually be vulnerable to? The above are just a few suggestions. There are plenty of ways they could counter the powers being overbalanced without simply nerfing them or giving enemies unpredictable and silly immunities.