Zero Punctuation: Super Mario 3D Land & Rayman Origins
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Well, I actually liked Super Mario 3D Land, I'm not a big fan of the 3D Mario games, but 3D Land had level design akin to the 2D games (Which is what they were clearly going for with the bite-size levels). Plus, the 3D actually helps someone like me who has difficulty with depth perception in games. I don't want to sound like a butt-hurt Nintendo fan, but I wish he would have actually reviewed the game for what it is like he did Skyward Sword...
ORIGINS! ORIGINS!
Now i'm wondering when (and if) they do realease a new ssb, i hope now they'll see that rayman would be a BAMF in that game.
seriously though, its good to know i share most of my oppinions with yahtzee, like origins' insane amount of fun and stupidly steep difficulty curve. But weirdly enough, he never said anything about the fact that the game has precision platforming, and that it's all about the flow in that game. on the other hand, yeah Land 3D Mario Super seems short, but keep in mind that this game was made by the galaxy team and it was there first attempt at a good ol' clasic mario game...that and it was supposed to be a seaqual to New Super Mario Bros. Wii. But since he liked origins I'm willing to agree that SM3DL is a little...blegh. Certanitly not as much fun as Sonic Generations.
Now i'm wondering when (and if) they do realease a new ssb, i hope now they'll see that rayman would be a BAMF in that game.
seriously though, its good to know i share most of my oppinions with yahtzee, like origins' insane amount of fun and stupidly steep difficulty curve. But weirdly enough, he never said anything about the fact that the game has precision platforming, and that it's all about the flow in that game. on the other hand, yeah Land 3D Mario Super seems short, but keep in mind that this game was made by the galaxy team and it was there first attempt at a good ol' clasic mario game...that and it was supposed to be a seaqual to New Super Mario Bros. Wii. But since he liked origins I'm willing to agree that SM3DL is a little...blegh. Certanitly not as much fun as Sonic Generations.
I think I was actually just convinced to buy a Rayman game again...
Time to dig out my old copy of Rayman while I gather the cash.
Time to dig out my old copy of Rayman while I gather the cash.
I think the end of the review will earn its place as one of the classic moments in ZP history. Although not quite up there with the ending of that one Tomb Raider game review where he just lapsed into saying a bunch of synonyms for "boobs".
Fanboys and their religious fervor never cease to amuse me.LordLundar said:
Yahtzee's completely correct. SM3LD had exactly TWO good moments (at least they were so good that they almost made the purchase worth the money). The very last level and the very very last level (if you played through it, you'll get it)
With a playtime of about 10 hours (100%ing it) and generally bland and unchallenging level design MLSD3 is not the game I expected. :C
Let's face uncomfortable facts, shall we. Even as hardcore Nintendo fanboy, you have to admit that ever since Super Mario World and Yoshi's Island there hasn't been an outstanding 2D platformer from Nintendo (and DLM3S is so restrictively linear it might've very well been 2D). New Super Mario Bros Wii just wasn't good (and don't get me started on the DS installment).
Glad to see Rayman Origins getting such a raving review. I mean... an Aaahhhhh from Yahtzee is as good as it gets. It deserves all the praise. It has incredible aesthetics that will look beautiful even 10 years from now. Sound and graphic design is gorgeous and outstanding and it's hilarious fun, even more so when played with a friend. And it's a platformer with some teeth.
Definitely a Must Buy (and you can find it for even less now... a shame really but good for cheap skates)
I think people tend to exaggerate this "moviebob is a Nintendo fanboy" thing quite a bit. He may show a general preference for them, sure, but he's certainly not going to attack anyone for disagreeing. Hell, I believe he's gone on record saying that Yahtzee's reviews are great.TheFederation said:
[citation needed]TJC said:
I watched my older brother (25) play it. He's good, and the game looks so fun I might try it out once he finishes. I think I'll like the no-lives system,since I don't have to worry about dying. And the whole Lums systems is VERY catching; it's like some sort of urge to get enough.
Hmm....and his comments about the game are rather generic(Typical Yahtzee comments on Mario) and not really that specific. It seems possible that he DID just look at some screenshots and judged that game from that.Razhem said:
Also, would it really be that good of an idea to get rid of the 1-Up mushrooms in the game? It's a staple of the series! Besides, it's not like this(or any Mario game) really punishes you that hard for dying.
Is Rayman good enough for you to reconsider your top five games of 2011? You didn't level a single criticism against the game, a feat only Portal has managed before, did you have them but just didn't include them in the review to contrast the greatness of Rayman Origins vs. the terrible design of Super Mario 3D Land 3D (where is that supposed to go anyway)? If you did have criticism against Rayman, what was it?Yahtzee Croshaw said:
Too bad that Rayman Origins devolve a lot from Rayman 3. I don't have nothing against nostalgia but, REALLY?!
Besides, the PS3 version looks like the Wii. C'mon Ubisoft!
Besides, the PS3 version looks like the Wii. C'mon Ubisoft!
Some of the announced games: Paper Mario 3DS, Luigi's Mansion 2, Kid Icarus: Uprising, Resident Evil: Revelations, Heroes of Ruin (a very promising hack-and-slash game from Square), and two Professor Layton games, one of which is a crossover with Phoenix Wright.ResonanceSD said:
Also, Ocarina of Time 3D, despite being a remake, is definitely worth your money. The game was rebuilt from scratch, and it makes the original almost unplayable in comparison, which is probably saying something.
I quite enjoyed Super Mario 3d land, and I don't find the 3D effects annoying or headache-inducing at all. In any of the games. They're less "shit popping out at you" and more "depth of field". I found the last several levels really challenging, and the final boss run from Bowser up the crumbly staircase was exciting and had my hands shaking. Oh well.
Also, I never understood why Yahtzee always goes off against 3D platformers. I've never really had a problem with them. (As long as I can see my feet, I'm golden.)
Also, I never understood why Yahtzee always goes off against 3D platformers. I've never really had a problem with them. (As long as I can see my feet, I'm golden.)
